We win by 20 without Doug Shows
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That is what a good ref would do before calling a double foul but we are talking about Shows here.
Careful because according to some that is considered a death threat. :joy:
As a side note the little ordeal with Higgins saying UK fans ruined his company and made death threats did exactly what it was intended to do. It was to distract everyone away from the fact he made obvious calls against UK. He was so obvious with it they were taking heat even from national media so he cries death threats to make UK fans look bad and give everyone time to forget his biased calls. It worked to perfection. By the time the investigation concluded with no evidence of death threats the media moved on so he or whoever hired him to screw UK made their bank in Vegas.
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He’s definitely one of the refs who bets on games. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit honestly.
You have to admit that the worst calls against us and no calls were because of shows though. He’s just bad. Maybe not the worst but that doesn’t mean he’s any good.
I agree, he's not the best, that's for sure. Its a shame that politics determine who gets these big officiating jobs. I completely agree that the system needs revamped but to blame it on him betting the game like the OP has done, is ridiculous. After the whole NBA official scandal years ago, they are watched heavily.
You may be right Fox2monk, but I think it's more incompetence and insecurity than corruption. Shows gets his feelings hurt and then makes one-sided calls to get back at the coach he's mad at. I think that's what happened last night, especially early in the 2nd half.
As for those here who seem to think there were no bad calls last night, I have to wonder what you were watching. Calipari will usually talk to officials and lobby for calls in most games, but you rarely see him get as upset as he did last night. He had legit complaints. There was a stretch to start the second half where they just weren't calling fouls under UK's basket. Doug Shows was the guilty party about 80% of the time. He just wasn't going to blow his whistle- most of Ole Miss' fouls happened on their offensive end of the floor early in the second half, as they were going for offensive rebounds and trying to get steals. Shows wouldn't call any on their defensive end under the goal. There were several no calls that resulted in no points or free throws and several more on what should have been and-ones. They were being called on the other end. I read Calipari's lips several times and he was saying "call it down there" referring to UK's end of the floor. UK players were trying to not make ANY contact but Ole Miss players were playing rugby. You don't have to be a UK fan to see it, either.
A road win in the SEC with Shows on the whistle and Reed Travis on the bench is...well, just enjoy it and move on. We will have to overcome adversity when we get into tournament play.
I just couldn't believe a grown man would succumb to just that after so many games. He must be a beta Male lol.
I know like the time were Keldon got crushed and missed and then we had three guys try and all miss with "no contact?"
Yeah pro sports are but since betting has went legal now the NCAA has no such committee. It was right on the line so no sportsbook would be mad.
I agree that it makes it far more available and more likely that there are corrupt officials but I still don't think its at the high D1 level of officials. They make enough money and put many years of work in to jeopardize their passion of officiating. They do it because its their passion, not for the money Im not saying that its not happening at all in officiating because i think that would be a bit naive but i don't think its happening at this level. That could also be a naive take too, I'm not sure. I've been to camps and clinics with some of these high level D1 guys and I just personally don't believe it's happening with the major conferences.
The lack of the call when PJ's arm was pinned is where Cal went crazy. Maybe from the back you couldn't easily see it or it was missed. But, if the refs were out to get Kentucky or Cal they would have called a technical on Cal. If the refs wanted to see Ole Miss win they could have called a foul on EJ for his block near the end which wasn't a foul, but the Ole Miss fans thought it was and so the idea that there is a purposeful bias with Shows is doubtful. Actually, it looked to me that they could have called several fouls on Ole Miss when Johson would drive to the basket, you could see hands hitting his body or face, but they didn't impeed his getting to the basket. Typically, you impeed progress you are going to be called for it and so they were allowing the hand slaps by both teams for the most part.
Here’s a link to another thread featuring a video from a seminar by Jamie Luckie: https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/jamie-luckie-and-kentucky.263353/page-2#post-6804184
Here’s a Luckie quote from the 26 minute mark: “Doug Shows is . . . the same, all the time. Coaches rarely mess with him, 'cause they know what they're gonna get. But he has also hit John Calipari and hit Billy Donovan . . once you do that, the other guys, they stay out of your way . . . .”
Interesting that refs call it a “hit” when they give a prominent coach a technical.
Here’s a Luckie quote from the 26 minute mark: “Doug Shows is . . . the same, all the time. Coaches rarely mess with him, 'cause they know what they're gonna get. But he has also hit John Calipari and hit Billy Donovan . . once you do that, the other guys, they stay out of your way . . . .”
Interesting that refs call it a “hit” when they give a prominent coach a technical.
The ref that I absolutely despise is the one who called the technical foul on Humphries @ aTm in 2016 for bouncing the ball after he got the rebound and was fouled. That game cost us a 3 seed in a different region and we ended up a 4 having to play the big 10 champions and had we'd won that game overall #1 seed Carolina in sweet 16.
And that call isn't even the main reason I dislike him. He plays to the home crowds by making over the top gestures on calls like he's on Broadway. He is also ridiculously vindictive. He tries to be apart of the game as humanly possible. He loves getting in players faces, baiting them. His name eludes me at the moment. But he's black and short. His shtick has no place in college basketball.
Edit-I think his name is Pat Adams but I could be wrong.
And that call isn't even the main reason I dislike him. He plays to the home crowds by making over the top gestures on calls like he's on Broadway. He is also ridiculously vindictive. He tries to be apart of the game as humanly possible. He loves getting in players faces, baiting them. His name eludes me at the moment. But he's black and short. His shtick has no place in college basketball.
Edit-I think his name is Pat Adams but I could be wrong.
Fair or favorable whistle from Doug Shows... LOL! You've made a lot of clueless posts but this one takes the cake.
I don’t disagree that officiating in college b-ball has gotten worse over the years. But to expect refs to not make a mistake, miss a call, or think every ref has some personal agenda against Cal/UK whenever the Cats lose is ludicrous. All I ask is for the refs to be consistent on both ends of the floor, and yeah I’m going to have to just live with a borderline bang bang call that doesn’t go UKs way.
Now, are there refs out there that are terrible and shouldn’t be allowed to call a church league game much less major D1 ball, yes. Is it possible there are some that make a little extra on the side by making a favorable call, yes and those should be fired. Is it possible that there are some that are flat out biased, yes and they shouldn’t be allowed to call games where those teams/coaches are involved.
Now, are there refs out there that are terrible and shouldn’t be allowed to call a church league game much less major D1 ball, yes. Is it possible there are some that make a little extra on the side by making a favorable call, yes and those should be fired. Is it possible that there are some that are flat out biased, yes and they shouldn’t be allowed to call games where those teams/coaches are involved.
I love how Shows made sure we left their last 3 pointers wide open after they missed 5 in a row. If he did not do that, we win by 6
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Come on. UT executed like a championship team down the stretch. We did not. It’s as simple as that. Give the Vols their due respect.
Or we just play defense like Tennessee. We played defense great for a play here and there but not consistently like tenn. Tenn wanted it more. Which is a worrisome trend that has been happening more frequently lately. I’m not sure why this team doesn’t have that will to win like Tennessee.
Like the flop at the 5:32 mark when KJ kicked it to PJ and he made a 3 that was wiped off? No more 10 point lead....then subsequent phantom foul on Reid T?
You call that execution???
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