WE WILL PROTECT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!
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Why yes, those are truly assault rifles, unlike everything else the media is talking about.
Thought this was an interesting exchange on the Limbaugh show today, the Left exposed over this immigration issue and in general!
RUSH: This is Mario, Toms River, New Jersey. Glad you waited, Mario. What’s happening?
CALLER: Hey, Rush. Quick question.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: If America’s such a horrible place to live, according to the Democrats, then why do they want anyone to either immigrate here and/or move here?
RUSH: Another brilliant question. That’s why I glad you held on. And once again it illustrates that it’s not about making life better for these people! If this country is so rotten, if there’s so much injustice here, if there’s so much discrimination, inequality, why would you want to introduce anybody to it? These people are pawns. These people are simply being used as the instruments for the left’s ongoing claim to power.
I can’t think of a better question and a better answer to illustrate that they really don’t care about people. One of the greatest political myths is that all compassion resides in the Democrat Party and all indifference and mean-spirited and what have you is on the Republican side. It’s the exact opposite, in fact. And the very idea that they are willing to have kids travel an entire country or two without their parents, running the risk of serious injury or death or illness, just to get here and become Democrat voters? What does it really say about their thoughts and their compassion for these people?
Because once they do get here, they’re never gonna escape the bonds of poverty, by design. And if you’re a Democrat voter in poverty, you’re stuck. If you’re a Democrat voter and you’re a minority and you’re waiting for the Democrats to make life meaningful, you’re stuck. They’re never gonna do anything for you. Because the dirty little secret is — and this is true of so many areas of government — the last thing anybody wants is issues resolved. Issues resolved means business is going out of business.
For example, if racism were, quote, unquote, ever solved, then what would Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or any of their heirs do? The State Department doesn’t want Middle East peace. They want the ongoing conflict, they want the appearance that they’re working hard to solve it, but nobody wants it solved. The left does not want an end to border problems. They want the open border for the continued influx of people that are gonna end up being their permanent underclass, in utter defiance of the idea that they care about people. That is a great question. Do you have your own answer to it that differs from mine?
CALLER: Well, it ties in a little bit to what you were just talking about, the traditions and foundations of America is what the left is against. They want to change it. So it’s purposeful. They want to tear down everything that we, you and I think is right about this country, which goes back to our foundations and our moral code, which is a biblically based moral code. They hate the Bible. They hate when we put our hand on the Bible. And Christians represent that.
RUSH: They hate the freaking anthem now before sporting events, they don’t want any part of that.
CALLER: They want to tear down what our country is. That’s why they’ve become the enemy.
RUSH: Exactly. That’s why there is never, ever any attempt to have any of these immigrants, illegal ones, assimilate and become, quote, unquote, Americans. That’s not on the agenda. Anyway, that’s great, Mario. Thank you very much.
RUSH: This is Mario, Toms River, New Jersey. Glad you waited, Mario. What’s happening?
CALLER: Hey, Rush. Quick question.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: If America’s such a horrible place to live, according to the Democrats, then why do they want anyone to either immigrate here and/or move here?
RUSH: Another brilliant question. That’s why I glad you held on. And once again it illustrates that it’s not about making life better for these people! If this country is so rotten, if there’s so much injustice here, if there’s so much discrimination, inequality, why would you want to introduce anybody to it? These people are pawns. These people are simply being used as the instruments for the left’s ongoing claim to power.
I can’t think of a better question and a better answer to illustrate that they really don’t care about people. One of the greatest political myths is that all compassion resides in the Democrat Party and all indifference and mean-spirited and what have you is on the Republican side. It’s the exact opposite, in fact. And the very idea that they are willing to have kids travel an entire country or two without their parents, running the risk of serious injury or death or illness, just to get here and become Democrat voters? What does it really say about their thoughts and their compassion for these people?
Because once they do get here, they’re never gonna escape the bonds of poverty, by design. And if you’re a Democrat voter in poverty, you’re stuck. If you’re a Democrat voter and you’re a minority and you’re waiting for the Democrats to make life meaningful, you’re stuck. They’re never gonna do anything for you. Because the dirty little secret is — and this is true of so many areas of government — the last thing anybody wants is issues resolved. Issues resolved means business is going out of business.
For example, if racism were, quote, unquote, ever solved, then what would Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or any of their heirs do? The State Department doesn’t want Middle East peace. They want the ongoing conflict, they want the appearance that they’re working hard to solve it, but nobody wants it solved. The left does not want an end to border problems. They want the open border for the continued influx of people that are gonna end up being their permanent underclass, in utter defiance of the idea that they care about people. That is a great question. Do you have your own answer to it that differs from mine?
CALLER: Well, it ties in a little bit to what you were just talking about, the traditions and foundations of America is what the left is against. They want to change it. So it’s purposeful. They want to tear down everything that we, you and I think is right about this country, which goes back to our foundations and our moral code, which is a biblically based moral code. They hate the Bible. They hate when we put our hand on the Bible. And Christians represent that.
RUSH: They hate the freaking anthem now before sporting events, they don’t want any part of that.
CALLER: They want to tear down what our country is. That’s why they’ve become the enemy.
RUSH: Exactly. That’s why there is never, ever any attempt to have any of these immigrants, illegal ones, assimilate and become, quote, unquote, Americans. That’s not on the agenda. Anyway, that’s great, Mario. Thank you very much.
lol... these Mexicans don't believe Trump is serious...
Mexican Senate, candidates slam deployment of US guardsmen
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-candidates-slam-deployment-of-us-guardsmen/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ebb 06.04.18&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief
MEXICO CITY — Mexican senators and presidential candidates put aside differences to condemn U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to deploy National Guard troops to the border.
The country’s Senate passed a resolution Wednesday calling for the suspension of cooperation on illegal immigration and drug trafficking in retaliation for Trump’s move.
Presidential candidate Ricardo Anaya went further, saying Mexico should limit anti-terrorism cooperation until the National Guard is withdrawn. Anaya is the candidate of a left-right coalition in the country’s July 1 presidential election.
Ruling-party candidate Jose Antonio Meade said that “independently of our political differences, it is time for all the presidential candidates to unite in defense of the sovereignty and dignity of the nation ... to reject and repudiate thus kind of measure.”
Others took Trump’s decision with a grain of salt after the Mexican government said guard members “will not carry weapons or have immigration or customs duties.”
The newspaper El Heraldo said in a headline Thursday “U.S. deploys National Guard ... tin soldiers.”
Meanwhile, presidential front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said Mexico should send a line of white-clad peace demonstrators to the border.
“Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, this is still just political propaganda, there still isn’t anything to concern our country,” Lopez Obrador said.
Mexican Senate, candidates slam deployment of US guardsmen
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-candidates-slam-deployment-of-us-guardsmen/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ebb 06.04.18&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief
MEXICO CITY — Mexican senators and presidential candidates put aside differences to condemn U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to deploy National Guard troops to the border.
The country’s Senate passed a resolution Wednesday calling for the suspension of cooperation on illegal immigration and drug trafficking in retaliation for Trump’s move.
Presidential candidate Ricardo Anaya went further, saying Mexico should limit anti-terrorism cooperation until the National Guard is withdrawn. Anaya is the candidate of a left-right coalition in the country’s July 1 presidential election.
Ruling-party candidate Jose Antonio Meade said that “independently of our political differences, it is time for all the presidential candidates to unite in defense of the sovereignty and dignity of the nation ... to reject and repudiate thus kind of measure.”
Others took Trump’s decision with a grain of salt after the Mexican government said guard members “will not carry weapons or have immigration or customs duties.”
The newspaper El Heraldo said in a headline Thursday “U.S. deploys National Guard ... tin soldiers.”
Meanwhile, presidential front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said Mexico should send a line of white-clad peace demonstrators to the border.
“Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, this is still just political propaganda, there still isn’t anything to concern our country,” Lopez Obrador said.
I’m really confused as to all of their comments. Do they think we’re trying to invade them?
Posse Comitatus Act and the US Military on the Border
https://www.thoughtco.com/posse-comitatus-act-military-on-border-3321286
On April 3, 2018, President Donald Trump proposed the use of U.S. military troops be deployed along the United States border with Mexico to help control illegal immigration and maintain civil order during construction of the secure, border-length fence recently funded by Congress. The proposal brought questions of its legality under the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. However, in 2006 and again in 2010, Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama took similar actions.
In May 2006, President George W. Bush, in "Operation Jumpstart," ordered up to 6,000 National Guard troops to the states along the Mexican border to support the Border Patrol in controlling illegal immigration and related criminal activities on U.S. soil. On July 19, 2010, President Obama ordered an additional 1,200 Guard troops to the southern border. While this buildup was substantial and controversial, it did not require Obama to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Posse Comitatus Act limits the Guard troops to acting only in support of the U.S. Border Patrol, and state and local law enforcement officers.
Posse Comitatus and Martial Law
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the use of U.S. military forces to perform the tasks of civilian law enforcement such as arrest, apprehension, interrogation, and detention unless explicitly authorized by Congress.
The Posse Comitatus Act, signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes on June 18, 1878, limits the power of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce U.S. laws and domestic policies within the borders of the United States.
The law was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and was subsequently amended in 1956 and 1981.
As originally enacted in 1878, the Posse Comitatus Act applied only to the U.S. Army but was amended in 1956 to include the Air Force. In addition, the Department of the Navy has enacted regulations intended to apply the Posse Comitatus act restrictions to the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard when acting in a law enforcement capacity within its own state when ordered by the governor of that state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor.
Operating under the Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Coast Guard is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act. While the Coast Guard is an “armed service,” it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.
The Posse Comitatus Act was originally enacted due to the feeling of many members of Congress at the time that President Abraham Lincoln had exceeded his authority during the Civil War by suspending habeas corpus and creating military courts with jurisdiction over civilians.
It should be noted that the Posse Comitatus Act greatly limits, but does not eliminate the power of the President of the United States to declare "martial law," the assumption of all civilian police powers by the military.
The president, under his or her constitutional powers to put down insurrection, rebellion, or invasion, may declare martial law when local law enforcement and court systems have ceased to function.
For example, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, President Roosevelt declared martial law in Hawaii at the request of the territorial governor.
What the National Guard Can Do On the Border
The Posse Comitatus Act and subsequent legislation specifically prohibit the use of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines to enforce the domestic laws of the United States except when expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. Since it enforces maritime safety, environmental and trade laws, the Coast Guard is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.
While Posse Comitatus does not specifically apply to the actions of the National Guard, National Guard regulations stipulate that its troops, unless authorized by Congress, are not to take part in typical law enforcement actions including arrests, searches of suspects or the public, or evidence handling.
What the National Guard Cannot Do On the Border
Operating within the limitations of the Posse Comitatus Act, and as acknowledged by the Obama administration, National Guard troops deployed to the Mexican Border States will, as directed by the states' governors, support the Border Patrol and state and local law enforcement agencies by providing surveillance, intelligence gathering, and reconnaissance support. In addition, the troops will assist with "counternarcotics enforcement" duties until additional Border Patrol agents are trained and in place. The Guard troops may also assist in the construction of roads, fences, surveillance towers and vehicle barriers necessary to prevent illegal border crossings.
Under the Defense Authorization Act for FY2007 (H.R. 5122), the Secretary of Defense, upon a request from the Secretary of Homeland Security, can also assist in preventing terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens from entering the United States.
Where Congress Stands On the Posse Comitatus Act
On Oct. 25, 2005, the House of Representatives and Senate enacted a joint resolution (H. CON. RES. 274) clarifying Congress' stance on the effect of the Posse Comitatus Act on the use of the military on U.S. soil. In part, the resolution states "by its express terms, the Posse Comitatus Act is not a complete barrier to the use of the Armed Forces for a range of domestic purposes, including law enforcement functions, when the use of the Armed Forces is authorized by Act of Congress or the President determines that the use of the Armed Forces is required to fulfill the President's obligations under the Constitution to respond promptly in time of war, insurrection, or other serious emergency."
https://www.thoughtco.com/posse-comitatus-act-military-on-border-3321286
On April 3, 2018, President Donald Trump proposed the use of U.S. military troops be deployed along the United States border with Mexico to help control illegal immigration and maintain civil order during construction of the secure, border-length fence recently funded by Congress. The proposal brought questions of its legality under the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. However, in 2006 and again in 2010, Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama took similar actions.
In May 2006, President George W. Bush, in "Operation Jumpstart," ordered up to 6,000 National Guard troops to the states along the Mexican border to support the Border Patrol in controlling illegal immigration and related criminal activities on U.S. soil. On July 19, 2010, President Obama ordered an additional 1,200 Guard troops to the southern border. While this buildup was substantial and controversial, it did not require Obama to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Posse Comitatus Act limits the Guard troops to acting only in support of the U.S. Border Patrol, and state and local law enforcement officers.
Posse Comitatus and Martial Law
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the use of U.S. military forces to perform the tasks of civilian law enforcement such as arrest, apprehension, interrogation, and detention unless explicitly authorized by Congress.
The Posse Comitatus Act, signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes on June 18, 1878, limits the power of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce U.S. laws and domestic policies within the borders of the United States.
The law was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and was subsequently amended in 1956 and 1981.
As originally enacted in 1878, the Posse Comitatus Act applied only to the U.S. Army but was amended in 1956 to include the Air Force. In addition, the Department of the Navy has enacted regulations intended to apply the Posse Comitatus act restrictions to the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard when acting in a law enforcement capacity within its own state when ordered by the governor of that state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor.
Operating under the Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Coast Guard is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act. While the Coast Guard is an “armed service,” it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.
The Posse Comitatus Act was originally enacted due to the feeling of many members of Congress at the time that President Abraham Lincoln had exceeded his authority during the Civil War by suspending habeas corpus and creating military courts with jurisdiction over civilians.
It should be noted that the Posse Comitatus Act greatly limits, but does not eliminate the power of the President of the United States to declare "martial law," the assumption of all civilian police powers by the military.
The president, under his or her constitutional powers to put down insurrection, rebellion, or invasion, may declare martial law when local law enforcement and court systems have ceased to function.
For example, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, President Roosevelt declared martial law in Hawaii at the request of the territorial governor.
What the National Guard Can Do On the Border
The Posse Comitatus Act and subsequent legislation specifically prohibit the use of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines to enforce the domestic laws of the United States except when expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. Since it enforces maritime safety, environmental and trade laws, the Coast Guard is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.
While Posse Comitatus does not specifically apply to the actions of the National Guard, National Guard regulations stipulate that its troops, unless authorized by Congress, are not to take part in typical law enforcement actions including arrests, searches of suspects or the public, or evidence handling.
What the National Guard Cannot Do On the Border
Operating within the limitations of the Posse Comitatus Act, and as acknowledged by the Obama administration, National Guard troops deployed to the Mexican Border States will, as directed by the states' governors, support the Border Patrol and state and local law enforcement agencies by providing surveillance, intelligence gathering, and reconnaissance support. In addition, the troops will assist with "counternarcotics enforcement" duties until additional Border Patrol agents are trained and in place. The Guard troops may also assist in the construction of roads, fences, surveillance towers and vehicle barriers necessary to prevent illegal border crossings.
Under the Defense Authorization Act for FY2007 (H.R. 5122), the Secretary of Defense, upon a request from the Secretary of Homeland Security, can also assist in preventing terrorists, drug traffickers, and illegal aliens from entering the United States.
Where Congress Stands On the Posse Comitatus Act
On Oct. 25, 2005, the House of Representatives and Senate enacted a joint resolution (H. CON. RES. 274) clarifying Congress' stance on the effect of the Posse Comitatus Act on the use of the military on U.S. soil. In part, the resolution states "by its express terms, the Posse Comitatus Act is not a complete barrier to the use of the Armed Forces for a range of domestic purposes, including law enforcement functions, when the use of the Armed Forces is authorized by Act of Congress or the President determines that the use of the Armed Forces is required to fulfill the President's obligations under the Constitution to respond promptly in time of war, insurrection, or other serious emergency."