We still don't have it

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The OP reminds me of the old poker analogy that if you can't spot the fish within first few times around the table, it's probably you.

Literally nobody in the thread agrees with him, yet he somehow believes he's right and everyone else just doesn't know basketball.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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Wonder if the OP knows 96 UK gave up 99 points to unranked Marshall in a win. No way that should happen, guess the greatest college basketball team of all time just doesn't have it when they finally play ranked teams in the tournament.
 

Aike

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I agree on the duke comparison but this team is much better although cbb is much tougher this season. I hope you are right that we can find the defense needed to make a run.

I'm not sure how much tougher it is than 2015.

We were historically good, and Duke, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, and Arizona were all really, really good.

Any of those 5 teams would have a great shot to cut down the nets.

Maybe there are a couple more top teams, but I don't see a 2015 UK in this field.
 

UKWildcats#8

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I'm not sure how much tougher it is than 2015.

We were historically good, and Duke, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, and Arizona were all really, really good.

Any of those 5 teams would have a great shot to cut down the nets.

Maybe there are a couple more top teams, but I don't see a 2015 UK in this field.

Any of those 5 teams would have won the title last year IMO, and beaten Villanova by double digits in the title game.

This year is shaping up to be a good deep field like 2014-2015.
 
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CincyUKFan

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I wouldn't be overly concerned about UNC getting 100. We play awfully, awfully fast. Leads to high scoring for both teams.

Guess we could try some of that ball line defense.
OP would make a better argument by talking about UNC's statistics as a whole. What needs to be addressed is not how many points they scored, but the efficiency with which they did it. 53% from the field and from 3 is an issue.
 
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John Henry

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If we don't have it college basketball better hope we never do. We can hold our own against anybody now so what if we do "get it" what then?
 

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See the concern by the op.. if not for Monk, UK probably loses. Well, UK has Monk, and UNCHEAT doesn't. UK does need to learn to play better defense, but it is December not March.
 
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I give the cats a load of credit for winning today. I just don't think teams that give up 100 points have much of a chance to win it all. Someone mentioned the 2011 game and this reminded them of that. That game was played in the 70s. We can put up the points but cal has created success by being a defense first team

So, here's the only logical thing to do OP. Quit watching now. Don't waste your time watching a team who has no shot at winning in the end. If titles are all that matters, then you gotta quit. Quit posting as well please. We could all use a break from your idiocy.
 
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I'll say it in lieu of the W. this time we give up 100 and when we had a chance to finish them off we let them get a lead. That is not the hallmark of a championship caliber team. I mean 6'3" guarding 6'8"????? Idk what dictated that matchup but as I've said a thousand times we need more size on the floor. Briscoe played hard but there isn't a starting spot for him. He should be our 6th man. Gabriel shoulda been on Jackson. We had 1 player score nearly half our pts. I got back to cals concerns this week and an acknowledgement this team is lacking. Cheaters are a fine team but we were up 10 and we let them back in it. It's all about a championship this year or bust. Good win but we lead by consistent 7-10 points all game and nearly lost it.

Btw this is for the one guy who says I won't post my opinion unless we lose.



Really? Come on, man. That was a championship caliber team that we just beat. Yeah, one of our guys went off but the same with UNC. No team is perfect by any stretch but we showed alot today. I'm even more impressed that they won after losing the lead late. They went down by 3 twice in the last 1:30 and still fought their tales off and got the HUGE win. Not only that but we lost the rebound on the FT but locked down and played smart defense without fouling, got the ball back and won the game.

You just can't expect them to put a team like UNC away and just forget about them. That's not going to happen. Theyre a championship quality team and it's extremely rare for a team like that to get blown out or even put away early. They battled and battled all freakin night long, going back and forth all night. No team is perfect but you gotta like what you see from this team in December. I know that I do.

We will get better defensively. UNC scored a ton of quick easy baskets because we got beat getting back. We always are near the top in the country in defensive efficiency and this year will be no different. Come March, we will be a good defensive team. Just trust the process. Every year, I mean EVERY SINGLE YEAR, posters forget about that and ***** all season long until the end when they realize that it's coming together. Just relax and enjoy the run. You got to be happy about Fox, Malik, and Bam. Bam is starting to come into his own with alot more movement. Like what I see in him.

All I care about it that we fought like crazy and we stayed poised. We got down and we came back and won the game. Enjoy it bro! Let the negative schite go and trust the process. I'm pleased with where we are at the moment. Wednesday will give us another test to gauge where we are. That will be at home and I hope we don't see a let down, which happens alot after games like this. I don't imagine we will though. I'm just happy to get the W today.


What a great day......We got the big W over UNC and Indiana got beat! You can't beat that in a day!!!
 
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I'll say it in lieu of the W. this time we give up 100 and when we had a chance to finish them off we let them get a lead. That is not the hallmark of a championship caliber team. I mean 6'3" guarding 6'8"????? Idk what dictated that matchup but as I've said a thousand times we need more size on the floor. Briscoe played hard but there isn't a starting spot for him. He should be our 6th man. Gabriel shoulda been on Jackson. We had 1 player score nearly half our pts. I got back to cals concerns this week and an acknowledgement this team is lacking. Cheaters are a fine team but we were up 10 and we let them back in it. It's all about a championship this year or bust. Good win but we lead by consistent 7-10 points all game and nearly lost it.

Btw this is for the one guy who says I won't post my opinion unless we lose.
 

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I'll say it in lieu of the W. this time we give up 100 and when we had a chance to finish them off we let them get a lead. That is not the hallmark of a championship caliber team. I mean 6'3" guarding 6'8"????? Idk what dictated that matchup but as I've said a thousand times we need more size on the floor. Briscoe played hard but there isn't a starting spot for him. He should be our 6th man. Gabriel shoulda been on Jackson. We had 1 player score nearly half our pts. I got back to cals concerns this week and an acknowledgement this team is lacking. Cheaters are a fine team but we were up 10 and we let them back in it. It's all about a championship this year or bust. Good win but we lead by consistent 7-10 points all game and nearly lost it.

Btw this is for the one guy who says I won't post my opinion unless we lose.
Idiot.
 

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I seem to recall a team that gave up 103 points to a team IN THE TOURNAMENT and win the national title.

If you doubt me, please look up March 28, 1992. I will remember that game for the rest of my days!
 

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I give the cats a load of credit for winning today. I just don't think teams that give up 100 points have much of a chance to win it all. Someone mentioned the 2011 game and this reminded them of that. That game was played in the 70s. We can put up the points but cal has created success by being a defense first team

Have you seen UCLA and UNC? They have guys that can score, in fact both teams have guys that can score at the next level RIGHT NOW. Now, do you think we'll run into every team like that in March? Do you really think those offenses or ours will keep it up? I don't, then this is where we have the upper hand, we can defend better then those teams.
 
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If Uk giving up 100 means, per the OP, that we're not "championship caliber", then what does that say about UNCCheat giving up 103?
Face it, these were two of the best teams in the country, both of whom love to run, and it was a shoot out.

I'm damn proud of my Cats tonight. Damn proud.
 
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I'll say it in lieu of the W. this time we give up 100 and when we had a chance to finish them off we let them get a lead. That is not the hallmark of a championship caliber team. I mean 6'3" guarding 6'8"????? Idk what dictated that matchup but as I've said a thousand times we need more size on the floor. Briscoe played hard but there isn't a starting spot for him. He should be our 6th man. Gabriel shoulda been on Jackson. We had 1 player score nearly half our pts. I got back to cals concerns this week and an acknowledgement this team is lacking. Cheaters are a fine team but we were up 10 and we let them back in it. It's all about a championship this year or bust. Good win but we lead by consistent 7-10 points all game and nearly lost it.

Btw this is for the one guy who says I won't post my opinion unless we lose.
I'll say it in lieu of the W. this time we give up 100 and when we had a chance to finish them off we let them get a lead. That is not the hallmark of a championship caliber team. I mean 6'3" guarding 6'8"????? Idk what dictated that matchup but as I've said a thousand times we need more size on the floor. Briscoe played hard but there isn't a starting spot for him. He should be our 6th man. Gabriel shoulda been on Jackson. We had 1 player score nearly half our pts. I got back to cals concerns this week and an acknowledgement this team is lacking. Cheaters are a fine team but we were up 10 and we let them back in it. It's all about a championship this year or bust. Good win but we lead by consistent 7-10 points all game and nearly lost it.

Btw this is for the one guy who says I won't post my opinion unless we lose.

We are a very athletic team that is designed to play uptempo.

They are a very athletic team that is designed to play uptempo.

A very good win for the cats, regardless of points given up. You play to beat the opponent, not to improve your stats.
 

UKWildcats#8

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I'm wondering who the OP thinks does have it. I haven't seen a team that "has it" so much more than UK or even UNC for that matter
 

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Wonder if the OP knows 96 UK gave up 99 points to unranked Marshall in a win. No way that should happen, guess the greatest college basketball team of all time just doesn't have it when they finally play ranked teams in the tournament.
I was at that game (Freedom Hall). First half UK looked like an NBA team. Was disappointed they let up in the second half and only won by...I think, 29 points if memory serves.
 

Goingfor9

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The OP reminds me of the old poker analogy that if you can't spot the fish within first few times around the table, it's probably you.

Literally nobody in the thread agrees with him, yet he somehow believes he's right and everyone else just doesn't know basketball.

You know who agrees with me????? Our coach. He's voiced his concerns the same as mine so that makes you the fool.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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You know who agrees with me????? Our coach. He's voiced his concerns the same as mine so that makes you the fool.
2 months of regular season left...first year watching uk? You still have yet to be able to name a set play they've ran when asked....bc you don't know

Plus we all know your shtick...if they lose at any time in the tournament you get to try come back and pat yourself on the back...even though by your logic there would be only one team that "would have it".
 

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To be fair we don't run set plays. It's pretty simplistic basketball. Fast break, run around trying to get open, take your man off the dribble or in rare instances throw it down low. You might see a screen or two but even they don't happen very much.

As for the defense, if it doesn't concern you at least a little then you have your head in the sand. If we run into a team with good outside shooters above 6'6 then we are in trouble.
 
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To be fair we don't run set plays. It's pretty simplistic basketball. Fast break, run around trying to get open, take your man off the dribble or in rare instances throw it down low. You might see a screen or two but even they don't happen very much.

As for the defense, if it doesn't concern you at least a little then you have your head in the sand. If we run into a team with good outside shooters above 6'6 then we are in trouble.

We are one of the most efficient teams in both offense and defense.

As far as no set plays, the same argument gets thrown around every year since Cal has been here. It's not even true. But even if it was, who the hell cares. If our guys can get to the rim at will against everyone they have played who really cares about running anything. It's clear they can't stop what we are doing.

Defensely, well yeah.......if ANY TEAM runs into a team with good outside shooters they are in trouble tho. Teams are shooting under 30% from 3 against us tho. So we are much better than most in that department.
 

Goingfor9

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You would be the one to dig up this thread after playing 3 sec games. They still have a long way to go brotha and you are evidently obsessed with me or you wouldn't have dug up a 3 week old thread. We still don't have it. And please don't use SEC games to try and prove we do.
 

Goingfor9

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You probably never competed for a championship in anything in your life. It's not about a "prayer" I say we don't have "it". Which to me is a complete team that is consistent and can take anyone. i mean well between you and SD you don't just not have IT you have nothing you need a prayer
 

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To be fair we don't run set plays. It's pretty simplistic basketball. Fast break, run around trying to get open, take your man off the dribble or in rare instances throw it down low. You might see a screen or two but even they don't happen very much.

As for the defense, if it doesn't concern you at least a little then you have your head in the sand. If we run into a team with good outside shooters above 6'6 then we are in trouble.

To be fair...that's a pretty awful take. While the fast break continues to be the main strength of this squad, they run set plays. This is D-1 Basketball, with guys who will be in the pros next season with a head basketball coach making millions of dollars. They run set plays. Even if you're just exaggerating, you're stretching.

Defensively, I'll give it to you. It should be a concern. Too many straight ball line drives and the switching defense causing issues. However, with that said. It's my only concern with this team. So much handwringing to Fox, to Monk, to Bam to Briscoe. This and that and all this crying. This is a great team. This is a final four contender. If they even get a shade better defensively, they should win it all. The problem with your "good shooters above 6'6" scenario" is there isn't a lot of teams like that that could run with UK.
 
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