we recovered 1 fumble this year............

[futaba.79]

that's incredible to me.

 

[121Josey]

Was it on offense?**

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Ha ha!

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Trivia - which game, and by whom?

 

[8dog]

Nelson adams. Troy. Touchdown.

 

[LandArchDawg]

Defense was a hot garbage dumpster fire all year.

 

[57stratdawg]

#Hawktackling

 

[512taylor]

that's incredible to me.

How in the world did we manage to win 8 games and go to our
6th straight bowl game?????

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

With ZERO players on the 1st or 2nd team All SEC team

Defense...must be MAGIC.

Excuse me Mr. Jones.

 

[tired]

How many did we force?

 

[8dog]

I think there were like 12 opponent fumbles so there is a little bit of statistical anomoly. But mostly we just werent good on defense

Remember everyone hypong diaz tech defense for its turnovers? Like thats a scheme or something.

 

[FlotownDawg]

You have to be able to hit hard and tackle well to force fumbles. We did neither.

 

[boatsandhoes]

No doubt

You have to be able to hit hard and tackle well to force fumbles. We did neither.

I'm pretty sure we were the worst tackling team in the conference. you can't really measure missed tackles, but we had a bunch. you can tell a lot about a defenses play by just looking at where first contact was, and if the opposing player fell forward or backward.

 

[jcdawgman18]

Causing fumbles can be indicative of good defense.

Recovering fumbles is really luck and usually regresses to the mean. But sometimes a season is a small sample, and this year we got the short end.

 

[The Peeper]

Didn't Tech lead the country in turnover margin or something like that Diaz' last year?

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Name me one current or former MSU player that you've seen take more bad angles and make a last second dive at a players legs than Coman. Embarrassing.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Going on this season's stats, fumbles recovered correlates very weakly with wins. Each fumble recovered increases your expected number of wins by 0.08, or in other words, if we had recovered 12 more fumbles over the season (good enough to put us in a tie for 5th place nationally on that stat), we could only expect to have gone 9-3.

Edit: Interceptions made correlates much better with win total than fumbles recovered. Each interception increases your expected win total by 0.33, or in other words, had we made three more interceptions this season, we could have expected to win 1 more game. Each interception thrown decreases your expected win total by the same amount. Granted, this analysis is based on an entire season's worth of data dumped into a single column, so it doesn't account for games where you got a third of your season's total ints against a 1-AA team. However, it might also indicate that if you can load up on ints against a weak team, you might do fine against the better teams, even if you aren't getting interceptions. I don't know.

Last season had similar trends, expect it was 0.16 wins/fumble and 0.36 wins/int. But on all of these stats, R-squared is poor, so you can get a lot of variance. The best stat as far as R-squared went was turnover margin vs. wins.

 

[sandwolf.sixpack]

I think there were like 12 opponent fumbles so there is a little bit of statistical anomoly. But mostly we just werent good on defense

Correct.....1 recovery out of 12 opponent fumbles. And it's more than just a little bit of an anomaly. THIS SITE has these stats for the previous 13 seasons, and with a 9.09% recovery rate, not only are we ranked dead last for this year by a large margin, but we have the lowest rate recorded in the past 13 seasons....the only team to go below 10%.

 

[kired]

12 fumbles but supposedly only 5 "forced" fumbles according to cfbstats. Last in the SEC. Arkansas was next to last with 8. A&M and Florida led with 16.

I guess that means 7 of our opponents fumbles were just them dropping the ball - bad snaps or exchanges between QB and RB.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Aren't we teaching a different type of form tackling?

Any other SEC teams doing this?