We ran the ball when we had to.

dinglefritz

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Something lost in the discussion about the D and the kicker. When we had the ball at the end of the game, we were able to run the ball for a first down when every single person in the stadium knew what was coming. MSU with one of the best defenses in the country couldn't stop us. THAT is a big deal.
 

dinglefritz

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We need a bit more of that mentality near the goal line. We had 2nd and goal from the 3 and threw it twice.
We gave up on the run pretty quickly there when they stoned us on one. I'm not all that disappointed that we tried to throw it though. It's a matter of picking your poison against MSU's D. I thought a roll out RPO would give us our best shot at scoring there.
 

SnohomishRed

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Something lost in the discussion about the D and the kicker. When we had the ball at the end of the game, we were able to run the ball for a first down when every single person in the stadium knew what was coming. MSU with one of the best defenses in the country couldn't stop us. THAT is a big deal.
what was most encouraging to me about the game was this:

At the start of the game MSU was intimidating our players - you could see it in body language and play. During the game a light bulb switched on for these guys and they got pissed and fought back and matched the physical play of MSU.

This is something that has not happened in some years for this program
 

Huskerwisdom

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Was a very good game by the OL. I thought the grading in the articles was overly harsh.

1. MSU's front and LB's are tough, physical and active. I think the best we've seen this year
2. The weather made it difficult for us to do what we normally do and spread the field. Instead MSU was able to cheat and even when they didn't get people into the box before the snap, their bias was clear.

I was impressed. The OL has easily been one of the best units on the field the past 5 or 6 games
 

redwine65

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frost can get by in these games that are detramental to passing cause of the weather.
by having a stud at rb, oline, and a qb to keep the d honest
 

barney44

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We gave up on the run pretty quickly there when they stoned us on one. I'm not all that disappointed that we tried to throw it though. It's a matter of picking your poison against MSU's D. I thought a roll out RPO would give us our best shot at scoring there.

I’m guessing the numbers game didn’t favor us with the run so we were forced to pass. That game seriously favored their defense. Stout run D and crappy weather to throw the ball around in, just wasn’t a good day for our offense but they pulled it together just enough to overcome the odds.
 

barney44

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Was a very good game by the OL. I thought the grading in the articles was overly harsh.

1. MSU's front and LB's are tough, physical and active. I think the best we've seen this year
2. The weather made it difficult for us to do what we normally do and spread the field. Instead MSU was able to cheat and even when they didn't get people into the box before the snap, their bias was clear.

I was impressed. The OL has easily been one of the best units on the field the past 5 or 6 games

To me the line was iffy. Pass protection seemed decent but they left something to be desired in the run game.
 

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Ozigbo should have had 30 carries in the game. No excuse for him only getting 18 carries in that type of game.
 

barney44

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it's all about the bodies in the box. MSU was able to put them there and we couldn't pass enough to keep them from doing it. You can't block more guys than you have on the line

Thus the numbers game and why we were throwing the ball instead of running. People questioned why we were throwing and that is why.

Regardless of that there were times that our blocking just wasn’t there even with favorable numbers.
 

SoFL Husker

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Frost needs to figure out a way to run outside the tackles effectively. OZ doesn't have enough lateral quickness. If you watched UCF last night, they destroyed Cincy with runs on the outside. Big area of "needs improvement."
 
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morninghusker

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Was a very good game by the OL. I thought the grading in the articles was overly harsh.

1. MSU's front and LB's are tough, physical and active. I think the best we've seen this year
2. The weather made it difficult for us to do what we normally do and spread the field. Instead MSU was able to cheat and even when they didn't get people into the box before the snap, their bias was clear.

I was impressed. The OL has easily been one of the best units on the field the past 5 or 6 games
So true... you could feel it in the stadium. I think the bad and no calls as well as msu dancing on our field flipped that switch. Could almost make the argument the officials helped with the win.
 

barney44

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Frost needs to figure out a way to run outside the tackles effectively. OZ doesn't have enough lateral quickness. If you watched UCF last night, they destroyed Cincy with runs on the outside. Big area of "needs improvement."

He didn’t do that much at UCF in year one either. They worked a lot on the inside zone game rather than throwing everything at the offense early on. We’re very basic in comparison to UCF in 2017 and beyond.
 

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Something lost in the discussion about the D and the kicker. When we had the ball at the end of the game, we were able to run the ball for a first down when every single person in the stadium knew what was coming. MSU with one of the best defenses in the country couldn't stop us. THAT is a big deal.

Very well said.....you can bet the ranch on that......that was a VERY big deal.
 
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SoFL Husker

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He didn’t do that much at UCF in year one either. They worked a lot on the inside zone game rather than throwing everything at the offense early on. We’re very basic in comparison to UCF in 2017 and beyond.

He's also got more speed coming into the backfield, and Mo will have a full year's worth of off-season conditioning, so I expect more in the playbook next year. Good point and post.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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He's also got more speed coming into the backfield, and Mo will have a full year's worth of off-season conditioning, so I expect more in the playbook next year. Good point and post.

we are going to need to replace Zig - an every down back that can go between the tackles

maybe Washington can be that guy but he isn't yet
as far as speed I'm sure there are many faster than ziggy but I rarely saw him get caught from behind. I saw Mo get run down a few times.

Jaylin Bradley listed as 6' 210 played some as a freshman and hasn't played at all this year
? injured or just not able to crack the depth chart -

is he going to factor next year?
 
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barney44

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we are going to need to replace Zig - an every down back that can go between the tackles

maybe Washington can be that guy but he isn't yet
as far as speed I'm sure there are many faster than ziggy but I rarely saw him get caught from behind. I saw Mo get run down a few times.

Jaylin Bradley listed as 6' 210 played some as a freshman and hasn't played at all this year
? injured or just not able to crack the depth chart -

is he going to factor next year?

I think the biggest problem with Ziggy isn’t his overall speed but rather his burst. He moves once he gets up to speed and has a lane, getting up to speed quickly isn’t his game though. Mo has the speed to get to the edge in a hurry but the kid is always limping off which concerns me.
 

barney44

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He's also got more speed coming into the backfield, and Mo will have a full year's worth of off-season conditioning, so I expect more in the playbook next year. Good point and post.

Mo definitely need some conditioning..
 

SoFL Husker

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we are going to need to replace Zig - an every down back that can go between the tackles

maybe Washington can be that guy but he isn't yet
as far as speed I'm sure there are many faster than ziggy but I rarely saw him get caught from behind. I saw Mo get run down a few times.

Jaylin Bradley listed as 6' 210 played some as a freshman and hasn't played at all this year
? injured or just not able to crack the depth chart -

is he going to factor next year?

The GT Juco kid (Mills) is OZ replacement. We'll be fine there, in fact, I think we will attack the edges more and be able to move DLs even more, which we couldn't do yesterday worth a squat.
 
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Yes it looked like he had a TD had he just kept going upfield. He “zigged” when he should of zagged.
I was thinking the same thing as I watched it. If he just keeps going straight upfield as hard as he could, he would’ve come close.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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The GT Juco kid (Mills) is OZ replacement. We'll be fine there, in fact, I think we will attack the edges more and be able to move DLs even more, which we couldn't do yesterday worth a squat.

I hope so ... I'm never comfortable just penciling in a JUCO or freshman and assuming everything will be fine.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Get used to it.

Greg Bell says hi

The RB they hauled out of the junk pile has saved our bacon this year after the shiny new toys fizzled out. How many JUCOs have contributed significantly this year?

Hopefully Mills is ready to go. Somewhat encouraging he has already done it in a power 5 conference albeit in a different system.
 

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We need a bit more of that mentality near the goal line. We had 2nd and goal from the 3 and threw it twice.
yes, add a four minute, victory formation and goal line package with QB under center and maybe give your young team an opportunity to be successful? I agree - that's exactly it!!!
 

Huskerwisdom

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Frost needs to figure out a way to run outside the tackles effectively. OZ doesn't have enough lateral quickness. If you watched UCF last night, they destroyed Cincy with runs on the outside. Big area of "needs improvement."

that will definitely happen. I expect us to see a lot more pulling and more ways of getting our backs out into space last year. I remember it took him until the second year to get the guards pulling and the OL to performing more of the full offense at UCF

Another year of everyone running the offense will be a big jump
 

Huskerwisdom

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Greg Bell says hi

The RB they hauled out of the junk pile has saved our bacon this year after the shiny new toys fizzled out. How many JUCOs have contributed significantly this year?

Hopefully Mills is ready to go. Somewhat encouraging he has already done it in a power 5 conference albeit in a different system.

I think Mills will be a big deal for us, and don't sleep on Rahmir Johnson. I could see him getting immediate time as well.

With Mills, like you said, the fact that he's done it before makes a difference. Coach Sims knows talent, IMO
 
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Huskerwisdom

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yes, add a four minute, victory formation and goal line package with QB under center and maybe give your young team an opportunity to be successful? I agree - that's exactly it!!!

Don't think we'll ever go under center, but some spreads have added wrinkles to help with short yardage and when the weather makes it hard to throw.

Kelly ran a wildcat type variant (although he said loudly it wasn't wildcat) and Mazzone ran some pistol/diamond stuff with more bodies in the backfield and the box, and with double wing type things, and the double wing formation itself could help also (we have some nice TE's and we might be able to find a tweener OG/FB/TE type who can act like another pulling guard or even receiver)

What's nice about all of those is that it doesn't change the fundamentals of the blocking and the base plays as much as going under center
 

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well 2AM set his personal best vertical jump to save that snap, why the death wish insisting on adding all the unnecessary risk? it's just maddening to be pleasant about it....(HuskerWisdom)
 

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I think a lot of the credit for being able to run the ball at the end of the game needs to go to conditioning. This team is stronger and has far more endurance than teams of the past few years. We are finally starting to see the results on the field.
 
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Huskerwisdom

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well 2AM set his personal best vertical jump to save that snap, why the death wish insisting on adding all the unnecessary risk? it's just maddening to be pleasant about it....(HuskerWisdom)

I get it, but I've seen a lot of regular snaps go wrong, especially when the center/QB aren't used to them. I just don't think Frost will add that. We'll see
 

SoFL Husker

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UCF added a package under center this year, works great.

Also, we need to be able to run outside the tackles, I can't stress this enough, or teams just collapse the LOS and we have no where to go.
 

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any idea why we don't use those 6'8" TEs over the middle at all? Seems like easy ways to move the chains and huge mismatches.
 

dinglefritz

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we are going to need to replace Zig - an every down back that can go between the tackles

maybe Washington can be that guy but he isn't yet
as far as speed I'm sure there are many faster than ziggy but I rarely saw him get caught from behind. I saw Mo get run down a few times.

Jaylin Bradley listed as 6' 210 played some as a freshman and hasn't played at all this year
? injured or just not able to crack the depth chart -

is he going to factor next year?
My purely guess is that they view Bradley and Devine as the same kind of back and thought a redshirt would be in his best interest. He'll be stronger next year with a better opportunity to play.