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AZBlues

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If we're going to lock every thread on the board, perhaps we could have some Mod-approved threads that people are actually allowed to communicate in. Four of the last five threads I clicked on were locked when I tried to respond to someone.
But it's too often like this: Side A posts comments that Side B thinks are baloney or misinformation. Side B takes issue with Side A's comments and responds. Side A repeats. Side B repeats. Side A may resort to insults. Side B may resort to insults back. Some posters invariably end up violating football forum rules by getting political and/or resorting to personal attacks. Nobody changes their minds. Repeat entire process. Then thread gets locked by mods to try to maintain forum rules and civility.
 

mildone_rivals

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I shouldn't have to pay for the CE Board to discuss canceled bowl games or the rules to enter a home basketball game.
I agree. You shouldn’t.

But there hasn’t been a covid-related thread yet that hasn’t almost immediately devolved into an ideological, often overtly political, uninformed CE-board style disinformation-filled opinion-fest.

That’s hardly the fault of Ritchie or the mods.
 

e5fdny

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I agree. You shouldn’t.

But there hasn’t been a covid-related thread yet that hasn’t almost immediately devolved into an ideological, often overtly political, uninformed CE-board style disinformation-filled opinion-fest.

That’s hardly the fault of Ritchie or the mods.
Are you or I closing a thread?

No matter the side we…you, me and the rest of us posting are not at “fault” IMO.
 

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I agree. You shouldn’t.

But there hasn’t been a covid-related thread yet that hasn’t almost immediately devolved into an ideological, often overtly political, uninformed CE-board style disinformation-filled opinion-fest.

That’s hardly the fault of Ritchie or the mods.

Pot meet kettle
 
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mildone_rivals

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Seems like the same side is getting the last word.

Not scientific, just an observation.
Not sure that’s true. There are at least three ”sides” to these discussions, probably more. And I’m pretty sure that the final posts in locked threads have been representative of various different positions.

Not sure what the percentages would be. But it doesn’t seem to me that the moderation is intentionally choosing sides. Be easy for someone to forensically determine that, though.
 

e5fdny

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Not sure that’s true. There are at least three ”sides” to these discussions, probably more. And I’m pretty sure that the final posts in locked threads have been representative of various different positions.

Not sure what the percentages would be. But it doesn’t seem to me that the moderation is intentionally choosing sides. Be easy for someone to forensically determine that, though.
Well again, I didn’t say it was scientific. Just an observation.

But that’s how it looks to me.
 

mildone_rivals

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Pot meet kettle
That’s silly. I’m not resorting to any generalized finger-pointing in any of these threads. I am certainly not demonizing anybody’s chosen political party, or ideology, or any red or blue states, because I have zero interest in that sort of nonsensical stuff.

I‘m also not trying to oversimplify any of this stuff so as to support a narrative. It’s a complex, constantly evolving situation. Oversimplification inevitably leads to disinformation.

The medical and scientific communities are doing their best to learn as we go. They are coping with multiple rapidly developing variants, and sub-variants, that don't all behave exactly the same across different regions.
 

fluoxetine

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How is it the mods fault that some community members cannot stop making everything political or resorting to personal insults? Like you just did.
The behavior of posters isn’t their fault, their reaction to it is. They can just… not lock the threads. It’s not like the rules are handed down from God.

But also, to be clear, a post calling someone a ***** would not ever be moderated in any way or get any thread locked outside of a COVID thread.
 

mildone_rivals

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The behavior of posters isn’t their fault, their reaction to it is. They can just… not lock the threads. It’s not like the rules are handed down from God.

But also, to be clear, a post calling someone a ***** would not ever be moderated in any way or get any thread locked outside of a COVID thread.
It’s a free forum. Those of us who don’t choose to pay the extremely inexpensive fee for premium are not paying customers and ought to probably avoid criticizing, or insulting, the moderators and forum owner.

I‘m grateful to the owner and moderators for these free forums. It’s a lot more work and hassle than most people realize. I don’t think criticizing them, or calling them pussies, is called for. My feeling is, if people don’t like it here, they should go elsewhere. Especially people who pay nothing.
 

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It’s a free forum. Those of us who don’t choose to pay the extremely inexpensive fee for premium are not paying customers and ought to probably avoid criticizing, or insulting, the moderators and forum owner.
You can feel how you want about caustic language, but I am free to criticize whatever and whoever I want regardless of whether I pay for access to the forum or not. You are welcome to think I shouldn’t. It’s not clear why I should care about your opinion on the matter.

I‘m grateful to the owner and moderators for these free forums. It’s a lot more work and hassle than most people realize. I don’t think criticizing them, or calling them pussies, is called for. My feeling is, if people don’t like it here, they should go elsewhere. Especially people who pay nothing.
Cool story. My feeling is your pompous “centrism” is these kinds of threads is obnoxious. I suspect you care approximately as much about my opinion of your posting as I do about your opinion of mine.
 

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I agree. You shouldn’t.

But there hasn’t been a covid-related thread yet that hasn’t almost immediately devolved into an ideological, often overtly political, uninformed CE-board style disinformation-filled opinion-fest.

That’s hardly the fault of Ritchie or the mods.

Since this thread will probably be locked, I’ll just say it. What you describe is quite simply ALL because certain forces/people politicized a biological virus and made it a red state vs blue state issue from the first moment it was even on the nation’s radar. Our ability to deal with and talk about it in an objective way was poisoned from the get-go and it hasn’t changed since. Largely, because there’s been a lot of money to be made politicizing it. Covid isn’t political. It’s a virus. We were just dumb enough to make it political and showed that we’re no longer capable as a nation to rise to challenges in front of us.
 

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I often find only one political ideology wants to silence people that disagree with their POV.

Grown men and women on this site and some of you beg for threads to be locked. Really? Don't post in them. It's not RL.

What are you guys going to do at the Pep Rally Thursday if people start talking about COVID after downing some drinks and you disagree with their POV? Ask the bartender to throw us out?
 

MADHAT1

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I shouldn't have to pay for the CE Board to discuss canceled bowl games or the rules to enter a home basketball game.
it's the conversations that hijack the canceled bowl game talk that gets the thread locked.
The same type thast ge other threads locked because they veer from what the discussion was supposed to be about.
A while back ago a new board away from rivals was set up for CE type discussions afdyter the CE board was dismantled, not many went there and hijacking threads here became the norm.instead of using that board.
Then a pay to play CE board was set up here and a lot of posters refuse to pay for what they feel is their right to argue non sports issues in a thread started over a sports related subject.

I don't blame you for not wanting to pay to participate in the same argument that causes multiple threads on a free board to be locked .
Heck in most of the locked threads, I'm one of the arguers and I don't want to join a CE board that charges me to argue issues that cause free board threads to be locked.
 

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I often find only one political ideology wants to silence people that disagree with their POV.

Grown men and women on this site and some of you beg for threads to be locked. Really? Don't post in them. It's not RL.

What are you guys going to do at the Pep Rally Thursday if people start talking about COVID after downing some drinks and you disagree with their POV? Ask the bartender to throw us out?
Counterpoint: I think you are absolutely on the batshit crazy and/or stupid side of the COVID arguments and I am against locking the threads.
 

mildone_rivals

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You can feel how you want about caustic language, but I am free to criticize whatever and whoever I want regardless of whether I pay for access to the forum or not. You are welcome to think I shouldn’t. It’s not clear why I should care about your opinion on the matter.


Cool story. My feeling is your pompous “centrism” is these kinds of threads is obnoxious. I suspect you care approximately as much about my opinion of your posting as I do about your opinion of mine.
Pompous centrism? 🤣

I always felt I was more arrogantly moderate than pompously centrist. No? How about irritatingly independent? Possessed of equilateral equanimity? Ooooh! Perhaps what I really am is superciliously serene?
 

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Pompous centrism? 🤣

I always felt I was more arrogantly moderate than pompously centrist. No? How about irritatingly independent? Possessed of equilateral equanimity? Ooooh! Perhaps what I really am is superciliously serene?
Lol.

To be fair, I mostly like your posting. I think arrogantly moderate may, in fact, be a better description.
 
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Its a lot of the same posters that can’t help themselves from taking repeated political potshots on a Rutgers message board doing it.

I’ve been a member here for 15+ years and it’s never been worse. Its a shame. In person, everyone here would get along and vibe well with their huge Rutgers fandom. Message board culture at its worst, I guess.
 
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Rhuarc

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There are 2 solutions:

Stop locking threads and let it resolve itself or start giving timeouts and bans like John O used to do.

As much as I dislike the way some people handle and represent themselves here, there's no reason for the constant locking of threads. It's annoying and makes me wonder why I should spend time here when certain mods have an itchy locking finger.

At least the Suckacuse forum's Rutgers thread keeps all the nonsense to one spot there. Maybe an all-inclusive COVID thread would solve the problem here.
 

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Its a lot of the same posters that can’t help themselves from taking repeated political potshots on a Rutgers message board doing it.

I’ve been a member here for 15+ years and it’s never been worse. Its a shame. In person, everyone here would get along and vibe well with their huge Rutgers fandom. Message board culture at its worst, I guess.
It’s a combination of two things:

(1) there used to be a CE board that was available to everyone. Now a large subset of posters are forced, if they want to engage with posters from this site on these topics, to do it in this forum instead of CE. This of course assumes they are unwilling to pay for the privilege.

(2) COVID is an issue that, like it or not, has become extremely political. It’s also extremely sports relevant. It’s not like a lot of other political targets that can easily be claimed not to be relevant here.
 

AZBlues

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At least the Suckacuse forum's Rutgers thread keeps all the nonsense to one spot there. Maybe an all-inclusive COVID thread would solve the problem here.
An all-inclusive Covid thread probably wouldn't solve the problem though. It seems pretty obvious based on past history that the small handful of usual suspects would still try to politicize or hijack other threads whenever they got a chance. It's like the old Scorpion and the Frog fable.... "I could not help myself.. It is my nature." 😉
 

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I’ve been a member here for 15+ years and it’s never been worse. Its a shame. In person, everyone here would get along and vibe well with their huge Rutgers fandom. Message board culture at its worst, I guess.
I disagree. Look around outside. This message board is a reflection of society as a whole. And right now, society spends a remarkably large amount of time focused on political issues. In many respects, these issues (particularly Covid) have been made inescapable. Even if you want to avoid them, you can't (NEWSFLASH: It's the reason we're playing in a bowl game a week from now). I think that if you had a Rutgers party the night before the Gator Bowl and conservatives all wore red, liberals all wore white, and independents all wore black, within half an hour you'd have three groups of uniform colors all standing in different corners of the room speaking among themselves. That's society; it has nothing to do with Rutgers or this message board.
 
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