Perhaps if you worry a bit more and crunch more numbers you can have even more anxiety about it.
Good grief. Enjoy the off-season.
Good grief. Enjoy the off-season.
We need shooters
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i wish i would have titled this thread....We need players that are threats to score outside of the paint consistently. Cause that's what i am talking about here. Not having players with good 3 pt shooting percentages. That's why i really really really wanted SKAl to stay and really am not concerned about getting Bolden.
Guessing UNCheat's was way less than that and they were this close to winning a title.
you totally misinterpreted the stats/point. The stats are minutes per game (mpg) of consistent outside threats not 3 pt percentages. You need to have them on the floor more often than not is the point. We didn't this year, we most likely won't next year, this is not good. Hopefully i turn out to be wrong.
you made my point exactly.....nova was able to take away their inside game because they didn't have a lot of threats from outside the paint.
That's one game. They got to the title game with pretty much the worst 3 pt shooting of any team in the tournament. It's not the only thing, which is what you seem to be suggesting. And Nova didn't really take it away all that much. They missed a lot of shots in the lane.
Like the OP, I am more concerned about shooting than our inside game. I have faith that when Payne and Cal get their hands on Bam, he is going to become another KAT or at least another Randle.
I really wish Cal would look into signing a shooter. There are grad transfers out there right now looking for a home that can stroke the 3. Why can't Cal tell one of them that they could come to UK, come off the bench and play 15mpg, get more exposure, play against future pros every day in practice, and get a chance at a ring?
I really wish Cal would look into signing a shooter. There are grad transfers out there right now looking for a home that can stroke the 3. Why can't Cal tell one of them that they could come to UK, come off the bench and play 15mpg, get more exposure, play against future pros every day in practice, and get a chance at a ring?
my people....you will be able to find single game outliers and argue anecdotal points all day long and think you are smart.....though the facts are easy. Teams prepare for one another especially in the tournament at end of year. When you have shown all season long that out of the 200 minutes in a game on average you play players that can't hit shots outside of the paint a majority of the time, a good coach will scheme for this and be able to put undue pressure on your interior which raises the liklihood of an upset.
3 point shooting WAS NOT the problem with the 15-16 team. 36.6%, making 6.8 a game, with the most efficient offense in the country will work out pretty damn well most years. Just not in the year when your frontcourt is awful. Add a real frontcourt player, and Ulis and Murray probably don't have to take 2/3rds of the shots vs IU, and Thomas Bryant doesn't steal UK's lunch money.
But you see that just uncovers how Cal doesn't construct the perfect team every year. Damn him.
The roster is what it is. Might as well accept it. Willis will have a shot, but he has to improve to be given anything, especially if we get Bolden.
Fox , Monk and Gabriel just need a spring and summer of practice with a good shooting coach.
If they put in the work, we'll be more than fine. It might take a little bit but cal and staff will teach them what shots are good and bad and once they stop taking contested threes ... I think their shooting will Be more than good enough to compete for the title
If they put in the work, we'll be more than fine. It might take a little bit but cal and staff will teach them what shots are good and bad and once they stop taking contested threes ... I think their shooting will Be more than good enough to compete for the title
Shooters are overrated cause shooters can go cold... even the likes of Booker went cold on us what more do you want?
Give me guys who can score in multiple ways, shooting set open jumpers being one of them.
Give me guys who can score in multiple ways, shooting set open jumpers being one of them.
decent point, though if we had willis in consistently and another spot outside threat, i would argue it would have opened up the middle some more. Though regardless, i agree, our inept interior was the main cause of the flame out this year.
ah yes, as i predicted....the single game anecdotal counterpoint. Excellent job somedude
Exactly. Recruit only players that can hit from anywhere on the court!
Seriously though, that's pretty much Cal's philosophy. Recruit guys known for their outside shooting and you can ride those players for a while, but if that's all they got they aren't much help on a cold-shooting night.
excellent job at what? it's not about a single game, it's about statistics and probability. You ever play sports beyond peewee?
nope, i would argue you need both though on average slightly more of the outside threats. roughly 120 MPG sounds good based on history. Silents, that's 60%. Math is cool.
He signed a lower rated shooter just last year....Mulder. I never quite understood why Matthews got so many more minutes than Mulder. I can't imagine he played that much better in practice. I guess Charles was a decent defender but I don't remember ever feeling like he made an impact in any game this year.
logic is not your friend Silents. You should just drop out of this thread, you are getting destroyed by MuEvans.
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Yeah we had like 3 guys shoot 50+ 3 pointers made. Murray hit 113. How many shooters does a team need honestly? 2012 had Lamb and Miller and that is it. They did fine.
What did you forget to switch usernames?
Cal's strategy has produced unequivocally the best results, everyone wants shooters but not at the expense of other very important aspects of the game.
You saw what Wiltjer did for us, right? Mulder was presumably a shooter, what did he do for us? And going on guys like Miller, Lamb, Knight, our perimeter this year... sounds like we do have shooters.
We don't really konw about next year until next year.
Cal's strategy has produced unequivocally the best results, everyone wants shooters but not at the expense of other very important aspects of the game.
You saw what Wiltjer did for us, right? Mulder was presumably a shooter, what did he do for us? And going on guys like Miller, Lamb, Knight, our perimeter this year... sounds like we do have shooters.
We don't really konw about next year until next year.
comprehension folks....it's about how often do you have outside threats on the floor to keep the defense honest and terrible take on 2012 team. You need to throw in Teague, Jones and Wiltjer as well.
Glad you have faith in their ability to work and get better. Like has been stated, it's April dude, the sky isn't falling and the roster isn't even done. Our coach has a pretty good track record. And I for one have faith the Hawk and Briscoe can at least equal one decent shooter. Relax, at least wait until we only beat teams by 15 to start next year before saying we can't shoot and should've won by 30
you didn't leave, Sweet! get ready, here it comes. the definition of the player i am talking about that champion teams have on the floor for around 120mpg is a player that can consistently score outside of the paint. it's not a specific 3 pt percentage, it doesn't even have to take into account the act of shooting a three, the common denominator of these players is that you can not sag off them and load up the paint. MuEvans is getting mad! humpf, i have explained this a couple of times.
Dude puts on 20lbs of muscle and it's a flub?? He started adjusting and shooting better towards the end of last year. He can make the adjustment. To say someone getting jacked is bad when the NBA is a rigorous 82 game season is crazy. I mean there is such a thing as to jacked, but Briscoe isn't near that level. Crazy talk I say
But if that's the case, you can't lump Bam and Gabriel into that category until you see them actually play. I'm very certain Bam won't be a 3 point threat, and not particularly optimistic about Gabriel hitting 3's, but I also don't think they'll be like Marcus Lee or WCS- guys who basically never take a jump shot at all.
Huh, Are you serious Clark? Teams will be begging for Bam to take shots outside of 5 feet. Hopefully i am wrong about Gabriel and Briscoe getting better as some alluded to above. Though from what little i have seen, it doesn't look like they will be threats outside the paint.
MuEvans need to stuff a sock in it, because his schtick is growing old really fast.