We made TotalFratMove yesterday..
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I should probably know more of the context before I say something, but just from the looks of things, this approach very rarely wins any souls. I hoped he talked about Grace just as much as he talked about judgement.
PreacherDawg, you should come check out DT Orlando literally every Fri and Sat
night. There are 4-5 people on LOUDSPEAKERS yelling at all the young people for drinking at bars. It's the most unappealing way to spread the word.
night. There are 4-5 people on LOUDSPEAKERS yelling at all the young people for drinking at bars. It's the most unappealing way to spread the word.
If I were an atheist, and an wealthy activist one at that...
I would spend plenty of cash donating to donuts like these people. They do a better job driving people away from God than any natural disaster ever could. And for all their work, they are going to go straight to hell. I just wish I could get to see the look of horror and disbelief on their faces when it goes down.
I would spend plenty of cash donating to donuts like these people. They do a better job driving people away from God than any natural disaster ever could. And for all their work, they are going to go straight to hell. I just wish I could get to see the look of horror and disbelief on their faces when it goes down.
Interesting approach for sure.
However, if I told you that if you were about to be hit by a falling limb, would you ignore me or look up and jump out of the way..... just on the chance that I am right?
The soft message that many a religious group shares, sometimes gives people the feeling that they can go on in the sinful life and just expect to get to Heaven simply because they were led to believe that they would be saved in the end without actually accepting the Grace, but just assuming it is automatic.
Do you prefer the Tornado Warning or would you prefer for it just to surprise you.
Non-believers are that way for a reason. They don't want to worry about what happens "after". They only want to live in the "now".
However, if I told you that if you were about to be hit by a falling limb, would you ignore me or look up and jump out of the way..... just on the chance that I am right?
The soft message that many a religious group shares, sometimes gives people the feeling that they can go on in the sinful life and just expect to get to Heaven simply because they were led to believe that they would be saved in the end without actually accepting the Grace, but just assuming it is automatic.
Do you prefer the Tornado Warning or would you prefer for it just to surprise you.
Non-believers are that way for a reason. They don't want to worry about what happens "after". They only want to live in the "now".
The problem with this theory that most atheists don't care what other people believe. Live and let live. Atheists don't care if other people believe in religion or not.
I agree with you bruiser. BUT there is a better way of going about doing that than what this insta video shows.
Bruiser, I agree with that too. I would have just as much objection if the guy was preaching all grace but no judgement. Now maybe he did both (but most open air preachers don't). That's why I wish I had the full context of what he said. The other thing is that whenever one preaches judgement, it should be done humbly, because were it not for the grace of God, I would need to be the one being preached to.
This is offensive and wrong.
I am a "non-believer" because I have a stong belief in science and reason. It is not a matter of "now" vs "after." I try to be a good person and treat people with respect, not for fear of infinite torture, but because it is the right thing to do.
And RingN2012 is right. I dont care what you believe, as long as it is not forced on me in any way.
I am a "non-believer" because I have a stong belief in science and reason. It is not a matter of "now" vs "after." I try to be a good person and treat people with respect, not for fear of infinite torture, but because it is the right thing to do.
And RingN2012 is right. I dont care what you believe, as long as it is not forced on me in any way.
'cause that's what Jesus did.
I personally think if Jesus actually walked by one of these screaming preacher/disciple folk he would have to giggle just a little.
Bull$#!t. Buuuuuuuuul$#!t!!!
I'm an agnostic, damn near atheist at times, and I can admit that many, many, (probably most) atheists live to "preach" and shout down other religions, especially Christianity. Further, many aren't actually atheist. They simply claim to be to have an excuse to harass other people.
Uh...typically non-believers dont worry about the 'after' not because they dont want to worry, but because by definition they dont have to worry since theybdont believe anything happens 'after'.
And they want to live in the 'now' because they believe the 'now' is all there is so make the moment count.
Non-believers dont live in the now because they think they will be suddenly saved in the end, they dont believe there isnany saving necessary.
++this is, of course, a generalization on agnostics and atheists. What you stereotyped isna huge group of individuals with lots of different views along the religious and spiritual spectrum. My generalization is only because those group's approach was already generalized.
just from watching at a distance I know this is wrong. Hell the Freedom From Religion Foundation made podunk Rienzi, MS just remove a Christian flag from a veterans memorial.
For those that are students or work on campus, how often does this group gather on the drill field?
Jesus was a friend of sinners. I don't treat my friends like dogs. The church should be like Christ and offer friendship without any prerequisites. If the church would do what God wants us to do (love God and our neighbors) then, God will do what only he can do.
Read "The Case For Christ" by Lee Strobel. Not trying to preach to you, but it changed my life..... for the better
I have read up on Strobel and some excerpts from that.
He is a fraud, a charlatan, and frankly a terrible investigative reporter.
He is a fraud, a charlatan, and frankly a terrible investigative reporter.
Jesus never yelled at unbelievers , just at the Pharisees. They were judgmental and went about "scaring" people and only believed in their "laws". Jesus taught with humility. One example is the woman at the well. She had "sin" in her life (like we all do because we are sinful) and he told her after she believed in him to go and sin no more. How people can go and beat others down with the Bible I don't understand. Jesus never treated people like that.
If anyone dares generalize christians
is such a manner, the gnashing of teeth is nearly unbearable. It is incredibly incorrect to categoraze all non religious folk as heedless and selfish for not following a scripture we have no interest in.
I'm not personally offended by the ignorance of others, simply doing my best to inform.
I want everyone to get along regardless of personal belief systems, unless they are ole miss fans. I may not believe in hell, but they can still go there.
is such a manner, the gnashing of teeth is nearly unbearable. It is incredibly incorrect to categoraze all non religious folk as heedless and selfish for not following a scripture we have no interest in.
I'm not personally offended by the ignorance of others, simply doing my best to inform.
I want everyone to get along regardless of personal belief systems, unless they are ole miss fans. I may not believe in hell, but they can still go there.
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