We have to give him time............

thatsbaseball

All-American
May 29, 2007
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We should'nt focus on just this game. Ky and Fla were just as ******.
 
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Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,925
28,560
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I think we should hire croom back. He is rested and ready.

No sarcasterisks.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,294
32,990
113
That would be an even bigger mistake than hiring him in the first place. This is Croom II. The sooner we realize it & do something about it, the better.
 

WilCoDawg

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2012
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I bet even he was screaming at the tv to at least let KT run it up the middle some.
 

M R DAWGS

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That would be an even bigger mistake than hiring him in the first place. This is Croom II. The sooner we realize it & do something about it, the better.


Yes, we need to cut bait and move on. If not, it will be a decade of crap. Moorhead has no clue.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

All-American
Jun 5, 2008
21,355
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What we have here...

is clearly a coaching problem.

Not sure it can be corrected ….as is.

Can't recall the last time I saw an open receiver. (more or less)
 

SWLAMUTT

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Sep 22, 2018
88
0
0
I don't even have the mental capacity to respond to this thread. What exactly are we trying to give Moorhead more time to do?
I'm at a total loss.
 

Eleven Bravo

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Aug 31, 2018
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283
63
Who fires a coach after one season? Who has ever fired a coach after one season? It’s an honest question. I can’t think of any, maybe ya’ll can. Now, people are calling for Cohen’s firing as well-and some of the ones calling for it were talking about how great the “Intense Bastard” was just a year ago. Most of the problems (not all, but most) with the offense could be corrected with a QB who is just an average passer-which I don’t think we have on this roster currently. The QB’s on this roster are all of the same type-run mainly, pass very little, which is what Mullen wanted to run his offense. Speaking of Moorhead’s “pass-happy” inclinations, I was sitting in that stadium earlier tonight and I don’t recall us passing very much. When we did pass, the other team was catching it. Fitzgerald was a better passer last year-this year his body language makes it appear that this offense requires him to think and make decisions based upon a lot of things-and he looks uncomfortable like a deer in the headlights. I’m thinking this is as much mental (or perhaps mainly) mental as it is physical with him. Moorhead isn’t going to be fired, that’s pretty much guaranteed-and ya’ll know it. He won’t be fired after one season because that just isn’t done.
 

WutheringDawg

All-Conference
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Fitz can’t get the ball in frame with an open receiver without a wide angle lens, most televisions don’t support the aspect ratio necessary to get this picture.
 

Lettucexxxx

All-Conference
Oct 16, 2012
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a few Eno hammocks and a kitchen fire


fire in the ***** house, run all you whores, run
 

ababyatemydingo

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2008
4,151
3,164
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Who fires a coach after one season? Who has ever fired a coach after one season? It’s an honest question. I can’t think of any, maybe ya’ll can. Now, people are calling for Cohen’s firing as well-and some of the ones calling for it were talking about how great the “Intense Bastard” was just a year ago. Most of the problems (not all, but most) with the offense could be corrected with a QB who is just an average passer-which I don’t think we have on this roster currently. The QB’s on this roster are all of the same type-run mainly, pass very little, which is what Mullen wanted to run his offense. Speaking of Moorhead’s “pass-happy” inclinations, I was sitting in that stadium earlier tonight and I don’t recall us passing very much. When we did pass, the other team was catching it. Fitzgerald was a better passer last year-this year his body language makes it appear that this offense requires him to think and make decisions based upon a lot of things-and he looks uncomfortable like a deer in the headlights. I’m thinking this is as much mental (or perhaps mainly) mental as it is physical with him. Moorhead isn’t going to be fired, that’s pretty much guaranteed-and ya’ll know it. He won’t be fired after one season because that just isn’t done.

This isn’t 0-12, but to answer your question directly, Ellis Johnson was fired from USM after one year of going 0-12, in 2012, and pretty much this level of ineptitude. But it was across the board ineptitude. Not just offensive.
 

tribaldawg

Sophomore
Sep 1, 2012
502
173
43
You folks are funny

That would be an even bigger mistake than hiring him in the first place. This is Croom II. The sooner we realize it & do something about it, the better.

You talk about getting rid of Moorhead as if your opinion actually counts or that you will actually be involved in the firing process. Reality check: Moorhead is not going anywhere for the next several years. He will be allowed to recruit his own qb and his own players to run his offense and rightfully so.

Everybody in the country talked about what a great hire the guy was now all you message board heros knew better all along. It really is an OM level rewrite of past events.

What really amazes me is that you guys haven't realized that we have to hire a coach that knows to win on a large scale that you have to have a passing QB. The days of 3 yards and a cloud of dust are over. Moorhead is attempting to make that change. He cant help he inherited a high school level qb.
 

tribaldawg

Sophomore
Sep 1, 2012
502
173
43
Who fires a coach after one season? Who has ever fired a coach after one season? It’s an honest question. I can’t think of any, maybe ya’ll can. Now, people are calling for Cohen’s firing as well-and some of the ones calling for it were talking about how great the “Intense Bastard” was just a year ago. Most of the problems (not all, but most) with the offense could be corrected with a QB who is just an average passer-which I don’t think we have on this roster currently. The QB’s on this roster are all of the same type-run mainly, pass very little, which is what Mullen wanted to run his offense. Speaking of Moorhead’s “pass-happy” inclinations, I was sitting in that stadium earlier tonight and I don’t recall us passing very much. When we did pass, the other team was catching it. Fitzgerald was a better passer last year-this year his body language makes it appear that this offense requires him to think and make decisions based upon a lot of things-and he looks uncomfortable like a deer in the headlights. I’m thinking this is as much mental (or perhaps mainly) mental as it is physical with him. Moorhead isn’t going to be fired, that’s pretty much guaranteed-and ya’ll know it. He won’t be fired after one season because that just isn’t done.

Please stop with your rational thoughts. You are ruining a perfectly good freak out session.
 

tribaldawg

Sophomore
Sep 1, 2012
502
173
43
This isn’t 0-12, but to answer your question directly, Ellis Johnson was fired from USM after one year of going 0-12, in 2012, and pretty much this level of ineptitude. But it was across the board ineptitude. Not just offensive.

So your answer is an 0-12 coach? Congrats on year 2 Moorhead.
 

ababyatemydingo

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2008
4,151
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So your answer is an 0-12 coach? Congrats on year 2 Moorhead.

People need to put down the bong pipe if they actually think Cohen will fire him after this season. Or that he even needs to. We would be more toxic than OM if we did that. Not a single coach that anyone on this board would want to have would give us even a slight look, if Cohen cut him loose after one year. Cohen apparently made a bad hire. He’s going to have to live with it. IMO, at least three years. In order to say he gave him a chance to get his players in the program. It’s not ideal. Nor is it going to be pleasant. But it’s reality. Not message board wishful thinking.

Ellis Johnson at USM was a unique situation. Wherin, USM can’t attract any top notch coach, anyway. So, it was more advantageous for them to cut bait after the one year of futility. And don’t say Todd Monken was a top notch coach. He wasn’t on anyone’s radar to get a head coaching position at any power 5 conference school. He worked his *** off at USM, and it turned out alright for him. Not great. And he got so burned out working his *** off that he decided to take his **** to the nfl as a position coach.
 
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thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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I wouldn't let Cohen live with a damn thing for two years. We may not can fire Croomhead but there is absolutely no reason to not reassign Cohen this morning.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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I wouldn't let Cohen live with a damn thing for two years. We may not can fire Croomhead but there is absolutely no reason to not reassign Cohen this morning.

This^^^^^^^^ and there is a few more in the Athletic Dept that need to pack their stuff up and get out.
 

mount lefroy

Redshirt
Feb 10, 2013
2,501
0
36
You talk about getting rid of Moorhead as if your opinion actually counts or that you will actually be involved in the firing process. Reality check: Moorhead is not going anywhere for the next several years. He will be allowed to recruit his own qb and his own players to run his offense and rightfully so.

Everybody in the country talked about what a great hire the guy was now all you message board heros knew better all along. It really is an OM level rewrite of past events.

What really amazes me is that you guys haven't realized that we have to hire a coach that knows to win on a large scale that you have to have a passing QB. The days of 3 yards and a cloud of dust are over. Moorhead is attempting to make that change. He cant help he inherited a high school level qb.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Why don’t more people understand this?
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,294
32,990
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My opinion counts at least as much as yours does. But if you think he’s getting more than 2 years without some major improvements, you’re fooling yourself. This won’t be a Croom style 5 year failure.
 

Seinfeld

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Nov 30, 2006
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I’d like to see the responses to this question. It’s like folks think we might suddenly have a seasoned passing QB, competent receivers, and pass blocking O-line next year.

If we’re going to play the “we’ve got to let him get his guys” game, we’re looking at a 3-yr wait
 

vandaldawg

Senior
Feb 23, 2008
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411
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People need to put down the bong pipe if they actually think Cohen will fire him after this season. Or that he even needs to. We would be more toxic than OM if we did that. Not a single coach that anyone on this board would want to have would give us even a slight look, if Cohen cut him loose after one year. Cohen apparently made a bad hire. He’s going to have to live with it. IMO, at least three years. In order to say he gave him a chance to get his players in the program. It’s not ideal. Nor is it going to be pleasant. But it’s reality. Not message board wishful thinking.

Ellis Johnson at USM was a unique situation. Wherin, USM can’t attract any top notch coach, anyway. So, it was more advantageous for them to cut bait after the one year of futility. And don’t say Todd Monken was a top notch coach. He wasn’t on anyone’s radar to get a head coaching position at any power 5 conference school. He worked his *** off at USM, and it turned out alright for him. Not great. And he got so burned out working his *** off that he decided to take his **** to the nfl as a position coach.

Ellis Johnson would have won 4 with this roster.
 

bddawg

Redshirt
Feb 21, 2018
230
32
22
Who fires a coach after one season? Who has ever fired a coach after one season? It’s an honest question. I can’t think of any, maybe ya’ll can. Now, people are calling for Cohen’s firing as well-and some of the ones calling for it were talking about how great the “Intense Bastard” was just a year ago. Most of the problems (not all, but most) with the offense could be corrected with a QB who is just an average passer-which I don’t think we have on this roster currently. The QB’s on this roster are all of the same type-run mainly, pass very little, which is what Mullen wanted to run his offense. Speaking of Moorhead’s “pass-happy” inclinations, I was sitting in that stadium earlier tonight and I don’t recall us passing very much. When we did pass, the other team was catching it. Fitzgerald was a better passer last year-this year his body language makes it appear that this offense requires him to think and make decisions based upon a lot of things-and he looks uncomfortable like a deer in the headlights. I’m thinking this is as much mental (or perhaps mainly) mental as it is physical with him. Moorhead isn’t going to be fired, that’s pretty much guaranteed-and ya’ll know it. He won’t be fired after one season because that just isn’t done.

Usm did, we should follow their lead.
 

Chris Mannix

Redshirt
Dec 29, 2016
797
0
0
Dude is a bust, faster we all deal with it the better off we will all be. Only question now is how long until we can move on from this idiot? Got to give him what two years? Hopefully we can survive this yankee until then.
 
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