We are .......guilty
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Heh heh. Excellent thread title. I think that's how every fan base should respond when the State Penners start that cheer.
[laughing] Clueless, head meet sand. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
Creep State.....
Yup, they fell short! They fell short. They fell short.
"Penn State has extraordinary expectations of our leaders, who must set and maintain the example for reporting, ethics and compliance that reflect best practices. In the view of the jury, with respect to Spanier, and by their own admission, as to Curley and Schultz, these former leaders fell short."
These scumbags haven't changed one little bit.
Piazza/Bream
And nobody helped
Yup, they fell short! They fell short. They fell short.
"Penn State has extraordinary expectations of our leaders, who must set and maintain the example for reporting, ethics and compliance that reflect best practices. In the view of the jury, with respect to Spanier, and by their own admission, as to Curley and Schultz, these former leaders fell short."
These scumbags haven't changed one little bit.
Piazza/Bream
And nobody helped
It must be incredibly humiliating to have to defend child sexual abuse and the cover-up that allowed it to continue for years and years.
WHO CARES!!! It's over the college football world has moved on, all except a few die-hards on this board. If it proven beyond a shred of doubt that Joe knew, do you think that would influence one NJ recruit and their parents from attending Penn State? Do you think it would draw any fans of Penn State in this area away from Penn State and towards Rutgers? Do you think it would influence one media outlet from praising Penn State if they continue to win? The answer to those three questions is a resounding, NO. The only way we will ever improve our recruiting against them and win fans is by winning on the field, plain and simple.
This whole rehash just rubs salt in the wound that we haven't been able to beat them where it counts, on the field of play, end of discussion. Loser fan bases talk about this crap, winner fan bases talk about potential conferences championships, playoffs, and Rose Bowls.
This whole rehash just rubs salt in the wound that we haven't been able to beat them where it counts, on the field of play, end of discussion. Loser fan bases talk about this crap, winner fan bases talk about potential conferences championships, playoffs, and Rose Bowls.
Some of us post in regards to the Pedd St. scandal because it needs to be remembered and the Paterno legacy needs to be placed in the proper perspective.
I can't speak for the others but I could give two chits how it affects Rutgers recruiting or its competitiveness with Pedd St. football.
There's just something about child abuse.
It needs to be reminded that football is bigger than child abuse. Who cares about children? We need to protect the legacy of winning. That's what counts. It irks me to no end that these grown men whine about being sexually abused years, even decades ago.
Who cares about bringing up a sordid affair that covered up for a child molester to protect a football program and it's HC's image RUforlife asks ?
Maybe not him/her but everyone who cares for the safety of their children and every child should care and never let what happened at Penn St ever happen again.
The way you do that ,RUforlife, is remembering what happened and never let anyone forget the cover up that happened at Penn St.
Especially when there are those who deny what happened and/or try to make it look like something less that it really was.
Maybe not him/her but everyone who cares for the safety of their children and every child should care and never let what happened at Penn St ever happen again.
The way you do that ,RUforlife, is remembering what happened and never let anyone forget the cover up that happened at Penn St.
Especially when there are those who deny what happened and/or try to make it look like something less that it really was.
Misdemeanor? I've been reading thread after thread on this board for 7 years about a how Penn State was going to get the death penalty, how everyone involved would be given long prison sentences and how Joe Paterno facilitated and ultimately covered up for Jerry Sandusky. So far, one individual was charged with a misdemeanor which will most likely be overturned on an appeal and the arrest record expunged a year later, assuming there was an arrest.
In the mean time Penn State's early ranking for 2017 is #3. According to Lee Corso, Mark May and Jesse Palmer their recruiting class (last year) was nothing short of terrific and this year they may do better than last year. The Alumni "alone" contributed 25 million for the athletic department in 2015-2016.
But all this will not matter because another Sandusky or PSU thread is bound to get started.
In the mean time Penn State's early ranking for 2017 is #3. According to Lee Corso, Mark May and Jesse Palmer their recruiting class (last year) was nothing short of terrific and this year they may do better than last year. The Alumni "alone" contributed 25 million for the athletic department in 2015-2016.
But all this will not matter because another Sandusky or PSU thread is bound to get started.
Yes and someone will bring up how good PSU FB is doing on the field and recruiting wise. showing how some value how the program performs on the field rather than how the program tries to make sure their FB program's image isn't put ahead of criminal acts against children.
Yes Trap another thread about Penn St's leadership's lack of moral values will appear on this board again and those who put football first will also be posting in it pointing out how Penn St football is doing well in defense of putting the football programs image ahead of protecting a child from a predator..
Umm, more than three people where CHARGED with felonies. One is in prison. Three others were charged. Two plead out. A third was CONVICTED on a misdemeanor. The biggest perpetrator of the FELONIES could not be charged because he is dead.
#JoeKnew
#JoeObstructedJustice
RU31trap - you have exactly the mentality that Freeh was talking about in his letter, to you the rape of dozen of young boys only matters if it effects recruiting. This is why you will burn in hell with your hero JoePa. By the way, both Curly and Schulz were charged as well and pled guilty, that seems to have somehow escaped you.
In the future, when I label you a PEDOPHILE SUPPORTER, your post quoted above is Exhibit 1.
Why don't you start reading threads on the BWI board, they seem to be of much more your ilk than the genuine RU folks who post here?
And this makes things all better now?
That's a cult mentality, look we're winning now, all the bad people are gone everything should be forgotten. This is how they got in this predicament in the 1st place. The point is they put on a great face, said and did all the right things in order to get sanctions reduced as quickly as possible. But behind the scenes nothings changed, it's status quo, protect the football program at all costs. They hired a group of administrators that have the same beliefs as all those bad people they fired.The real issue at hand is that the general media and population have given PSU a pass. Becuse they win. Plain and simple.
So the reality is that the NCAA is the one that is so messed up... they don't punish for moral, legal, or cheating wrong doings. Until they do, breaking the rules and law to win FAR FAR OUTWEIGHS any potential "penalties" an institution would see. In fact actually , it provides incentive to cheat and win at any costs. This is not an exaggeration, it's the truth. Follow the $$$
So the reality is that the NCAA is the one that is so messed up... they don't punish for moral, legal, or cheating wrong doings. Until they do, breaking the rules and law to win FAR FAR OUTWEIGHS any potential "penalties" an institution would see. In fact actually , it provides incentive to cheat and win at any costs. This is not an exaggeration, it's the truth. Follow the $$$
Since 2011 everyone on this site including me have said repeatedly (approximately 1,000,000,000 times) that what happened at Penn State was criminal and a tragedy of mammoth proportion. I've always said, let the authorities do their job and let judicial system work. Harping on the same thing over and over again makes us look desperate and frankly stupid. About a dozen posters including myself have suggested curtailing Sandusky threads since they have very little to do with RU football. Now I read a post where GSGS is threatening to call out anyone who doesn't agree with his position on the subject and threatening them by labeling them a Pedophile supporter! Free board or not that's harassment and if not addressed it will create a cult like atmosphere on this very board. I really suggest the mods to take a good look at this non-sense.
kbee is wrong about a lot of things..
.. but not this. This is not a "who cares?" kind of topic. It speaks to the very worst of "big time" college sports and how it can pervert the values and behavior of even someone as accomplished as the President of a flagship state university.. and to the point of the OP.. a huge chunk of the Penn State fan base. We saw it when it was happening.. the denial, the blame-shifting... shame should be heaped upon all those concerned and we should all take it as a warning to be vigilant should Rutgers ever ascend to the royalty level of college football... to never allow it to get so big that common decency and concern for human beings and young children is tossed aside in favor of promoting and protecting an image.
Funny, now we're supposed to let psu fans dictate what is appropriate on our board. I thought we had already established your main allegiance is to psu and while you have a somewhat liking to RU, really your just a psu fan at heart. Please stop posing as an RU fan when it comes to matters of psu, we all know whose side your on already.
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31Trap: I can't understand how you were so appalled by the two in your office thatvyoubfollowed them to a hotel and took photos. And regretted that you didn't make them buy the photos from you for $10k. And youb described them as horrible human beings.
Then you come up with defending Penn St president, AD, and Joe Pa. The boys who were abused were victims and PSU facilitated by looking the other way causing many more boys to be abused.
Any way you could change your screen name from RU to PSU. You're really a troll.
How does any of what you wrote help our program?
Are recruits refusing to play for PSU?
Is the Sandusky case encouraging blue chip NJ recruits to stay home and play for Rutgers?
Are PSU fans refusing to attend games?
Are alumni donations declining?
Where's the moral outrage from media or the NCAA?
If Sandusky threads help us:
Win 5 games in 2017 and 8 games in 2018
Recruit a top 25 class in 2017
Help us fill the stadium up to capacity
Then by all means keep the Sandusky threads coming.
So now you're saying you're not a fan of "cult like atmospheres"? Hmmm.
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This has nothing to do with recruiting. Although I live football and Rutgers, in the grand scheme of things, recruiting, football games and college sports mean nothing. This is is about a culture that put those things in front of the safety and well-being of children. There is seriously something wrong with the PSU culture.
If it means making sure what happened is not forgotten and those who allowed a monster to continue to molest children because turning in that child molester might hurt their football program and/or HC's image, yes these Penn St cover-up threads must continue, if only to make sure people like RU31Trap can't make it go away and act like it never happened.
Rubbish.
This short sighted fallacy may be used by some to explain the psu culture reaction on this board.
Tell me, how does this reasoning hold with regard to the disgust on the Ohio State board? The Michigan board? Etc., etc., etc.
No, the real reason for the disgust here is the same for all normal, sane people. The disgust about the deliberate actions of psu men to allow young innocent children to continue to get raped on the psu campus. And the disgust of those that continue to defend them.
Enabling child rape-almost as bad as committing the crime of child rape itself IMO.
Curley, Schultz, Spanier and JoePa all enabled child rape for many years but a small group of whackos like Trap defend them. Pathetic
Curley, Schultz, Spanier and JoePa all enabled child rape for many years but a small group of whackos like Trap defend them. Pathetic
Yep. I can remember growing up wishing the Rutgers football program could be more like Pedd St.
That certainly has changed thanks to Sandusky/Paterno. Yeah, I wanna win more football games....but not at THAT price.
I wish they had asked the UVA officials what they talked to Joe about when he intercepted them on their way to talk to Sandusky as he was retiring at the pinnacle of his career. I'm especially curious given they promptly left and did not talk to sandusky or his rep ever again