WBB thread - WHY in the holy hell

[G-Dawg]

does Vic continue to ask Big T to hedge on ballscreens 20 feet from the basket? I know he's a m/m only guy. I get that. But I wish he would at least FLIRT with a zone now and then. Put T in the middle of the paint and don't move. If a 5 from the other team can shoot the 3, then go back m/m, but otherwise, she is getting too many fouls on something she obviously can't do.

And before anyone starts with the "he's the best coach we've ever had, how dare you question him", yes he is. Maybe the best we'll ever have. I wouldn't trade him for Geno, Muffet, or anyone else. I LOVE ME SOME VIC SHAEFFER. But this boggles my mind.

And something seems wrong with T. I'm thinking Vic's having some issues with her. She doesn't look engaged, mentally or physically, lately. This was supposed to be her team, but she doesn't seem like she wants to lead.

 

[8dog]

Didnt see yesterday but have wondered if trying to fight
over the top of the screen is the real issue bc thats putting T in a more precarious position a lot when the dribbler beats her man

i guess i get confused as to why we both go over the top of the screen and hard hedge

 

[patdog]

He’s the best coach we’ve ever had & 1 of the best in the country. But every coach has a blind spot where there’s some dumb thing he’s going to do every time come he’ll or high water. And having the best post defender in the country 20 feet from the basket trying to help guard much quicker players is Vic’s blind spot. Even Nick Saban has cost his team games by trying 50+ yard FGs with mediocre kickers.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I could see the Hedging if the opposing player was an outside threat...Oregon’s was...Kentucky’s not so much... But if the other teams 5 is going to beat you by the 3, it’s just not your day.

 

[maroonmania]

I asked essentially this question in some other threads but the same defense could be played if someone would tell McCowan to STOP swiping at the ball every time the dribbler comes across that top of the key screen. If she just wouldn't do that she wouldn't get these silly fouls out 22 feet from the baskets. There is nothing positive to be gained anyway because its not like she ever gets a steal. Anytime you reach in like that you are prone to get a foul called on you. Yesterday, 2 of her 4 fouls were out at the top of the key reaching in on an opposing guard dribbling the ball by her. And I'm just sitting there asking WHY?

 

[grimedawg1]

The hedging is fine

It's the reaching that shouldn't be done. Cheap fouls from that. I am sure Vic's told her not to reach, but it sure was a dumb reach that cost her the fourth foul yesterday.

 

[maroonmania]

I am sure Vic's told her not to reach.

I somehow doubt this given she does it EVERY time. She doesn't foul every time but she reaches out pretty much every time.

 

[dog12]

does Vic continue to ask Big T to hedge on ballscreens 20 feet from the basket? I know he's a m/m only guy. I get that. But I wish he would at least FLIRT with a zone now and then. Put T in the middle of the paint and don't move. If a 5 from the other team can shoot the 3, then go back m/m, but otherwise, she is getting too many fouls on something she obviously can't do.

And before anyone starts with the "he's the best coach we've ever had, how dare you question him", yes he is. Maybe the best we'll ever have. I wouldn't trade him for Geno, Muffet, or anyone else. I LOVE ME SOME VIC SHAEFFER. But this boggles my mind.

And something seems wrong with T. I'm thinking Vic's having some issues with her. She doesn't look engaged, mentally or physically, lately. This was supposed to be her team, but she doesn't seem like she wants to lead.

Agree 100%.

On D, put T in the paint right in front of the goal and leave her there.

T's only duties on D should be:
1) challenge/block anyone who drives to the goal; and
2) rebound.

How many layups have we given up with T playing D above the free throw line?

In my opinion, T should never leave the paint on the defensive end of the floor.

 

[StarkVegas Steve]

I see two HUGE problems right now with McGowan:

1) Outside of shot blocking, she is a major liability defensively. She has trouble running the floor to get back and she commits dumb fouls WAY to far away from the goal for a post player. I could live with her committing fouls on someone going up for a layup, but not dribbling the ball 20 ft from the basket.

2) I firmly believe her ego has been hurt by the arrival of Howard. She came into this season thinking this was her team and she'd be the focal point of everything we do. She's now realizing Howard is the real deal and is, and rightfully should be, the no. 1 option. I'm afraid this could be the much bigger problem and could end up costing us important games in March.

Now, saying all that I believe if any coach who's worth a damn will put a stop to all that nonsense before it becomes a major factor. And Schaefer is worth an elite damn.

 

[llmsudawg]

Played in two straight National Championship games (should have won the last one) and people are being critical of the coach and trying to make up 'trouble in the locker room' scenarios.

For 17 sakes, just cheer and enjoy it while it's happening. Some folks will complain about the blow job in the middle of getting blown..

 

[MSUDC11]

McCowan has had some difficult games lately, but let’s not get too carried away here. She still had 13 points and 10 rebounds yesterday in a game where she was plagued with foul trouble. The Oregon game is what people remember because of how little she did offensively, but she still had 11 rebounds and 4 blocks.

I’m not against criticizing her because she hasn’t been perfect, but she’s putting up essentially the same stat line as last year in five fewer minutes per game. And her shooting percentages are all improved from a year ago. She’s still very much going to be an All-American.

 

[twopack]

Must be coached that way

does Vic continue to ask Big T to hedge on ballscreens 20 feet from the basket? I know he's a m/m only guy. I get that. But I wish he would at least FLIRT with a zone now and then. Put T in the middle of the paint and don't move. If a 5 from the other team can shoot the 3, then go back m/m, but otherwise, she is getting too many fouls on something she obviously can't do.

And before anyone starts with the "he's the best coach we've ever had, how dare you question him", yes he is. Maybe the best we'll ever have. I wouldn't trade him for Geno, Muffet, or anyone else. I LOVE ME SOME VIC SHAEFFER. But this boggles my mind.

And something seems wrong with T. I'm thinking Vic's having some issues with her. She doesn't look engaged, mentally or physically, lately. This was supposed to be her team, but she doesn't seem like she wants to lead.

All three of the centers do the exact same thing. McCowan, Carter, and Campbell. Doubt if that is coincidence. Regardless, it does introduce a high risk of fouling with virtually no benefit. In games with other closely matched teams, that could be a killer. But I'm not the coach and Vic doesn't need my advice or help.