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Watching JUCO guard Devonte Bandoo tonight

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higgins3

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Being at a top juco school, you would think Bandoos offer list would be huge. He looks like a player.
 
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I think its fairly obvious based on this visit and previous ones cited in the past that there will be at least one roster player leaving .
 
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Let’s keep in mind JUCO 42% is not 42% in B1G. Close outs are a bit different

I am sorry, but I find it a terrible sign that we are fishing in the JUCO pond. Not the way I’d like to see a program built.
 
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I am sorry, but I find it a terrible sign that we are fishing in the JUCO pond. Not the way I’d like to see a program built.
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Pike knows what he is doing. Taking Carter and maybe another JUCO helps the team with upperclassmen next year, vs replacing transfers with all freshman. Even without transfers, we will have a very young team next year.
 
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Greene Rice FIG said:
Let’s keep in mind JUCO 42% is not 42% in B1G. Close outs are a bit different

I am sorry, but I find it a terrible sign that we are fishing in the JUCO pond. Not the way I’d like to see a program built.
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West Virginia, Indiana and others have offered....typical programs that win games....it's not as if the kid has limited interest from non-existant or coaches that don't see talent. If Corey departs and this kid shoots 35% from 3, we will be fine next year, if he landed here.....looks like a strong defender and can help bring the ball up, vs reliance all on Geo.....alternative is to expect Souf to be here or be that 2nd player??? Probably not a good idea if Corey departs.
 
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Greene Rice FIG said:
Let’s keep in mind JUCO 42% is not 42% in B1G. Close outs are a bit different

I am sorry, but I find it a terrible sign that we are fishing in the JUCO pond. Not the way I’d like to see a program built.
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If we assume Sanders is leaving, I would love a, one year, seasoned guard to step in.....hopefully this would prevent a drop off from this year....and considering we were a sub .500 team, we don't want
to backslide any further

the seasoned guard lets you bring in a frosh or two and not put them under the gun..... we lucked out with Geo as a frosh guard, and we cannot assume the next frosh can do nearly as well.
 
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JUCO players are only 2 years removed from not being able to play in a real college. Can’t lose sight of that.
 
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JUCO players are only 2 years removed from not being able to play in a real college. Can’t lose sight of that.
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Why? What does their status 2 years ago have anything to do with their ability to contribute now?

That's like saying not to lose sight that a team's scoring leader was just a 2 star - that becomes irrelevant as soon as HS is over.
 
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RUChoppin said:
Why? What does their status 2 years ago have anything to do with their ability to contribute now?

That's like saying not to lose sight that a team's scoring leader was just a 2 star - that becomes irrelevant as soon as HS is over.
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That’s ok if it is performance based on the court.
 
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I want 14 Geo Bakers and Eugene Os. Let’s go to war with guys that aren’t ultra gifted, but will be team players and stay out of trouble and do good in the class room.

I am guilty of generalizing. Sorry. Going the JUCo route of building a roster is playing with fire.

Now let’s land this guy and make me wrong and have him be the 2nd Steve Worrhy and get straight As and be Geo Bakers best friend for life.
 
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That’s ok if it is performance based on the court.
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JUCOs have to be evaluated like any other player. At guard, you could get Jerome Coleman or Souf Mensah.... just like with freshmen you could get Geo Baker or Austin Carroll. Juco's offer slightly less risk in that they're two years older and only require a two year scholarship commitment - but they also often have a lower overall ceiling in those two years (though guys like Jimmy Butler and Jae Crowder can also be found in their ranks).

If bringing in a JUCO this year gets us some more wins and allows us to land a top level player in 2020, I'm all for it. Can't have another miss that only plays walkon minutes, though.
 
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My memory isn't the best and I didn't pay attention to anything, but what happened on the court back then. We know Coleman was great Year 1 and lousy Year 2. Wasn't their chemistry issues?
 
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He was lousy year 2?

One big change we had from his first to second year was we lost Rashod Kent and Eugene Dabney in the middle.
 
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Greene Rice FIG said:
I want 14 Geo Bakers and Eugene Os. Let’s go to war with guys that aren’t ultra gifted, but will be team players and stay out of trouble and do good in the class room.

I am guilty of generalizing. Sorry. Going the JUCo route of building a roster is playing with fire.

Now let’s land this guy and make me wrong and have him be the 2nd Steve Worrhy and get straight As and be Geo Bakers best friend for life.
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Mix and match. 12 regular 4 year players and two jucos. Just gave to have the balance in favor of four year players.
 
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The game has certainly changed. In 2005, Quincy Douby shot 34% from 3 and was the 7th best shooter in the conference.
 
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Also, we don't know what Pikiell and company are truly looking at to fill out the roster. We don't even know how open the roster will be. Rutgers clearly wants shooters and a point guard. They've looked at Tai Strickland, Adrian Griffin (who committed to Illinois), talked about Aundre Hyatt maybe becoming a 2018, and now Bandoo. Also there are a couple of other names I think they might be looking at that I haven't seen publicly yet. There's no guarantee they're just going to JUCO and even if they go JUCO, they'll probably also add another freshman.
 
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That it has-----if you aren't high 30's low 40's you aren't a good shooter anymore.

It's a game of 3's and layups.
 
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wasn't their talk/rumors that Coleman and Sherrod wouldn't pass to Shields?
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Shields was a real enigma...didn’t get on w QD or Coleman/Sherrod but you couldn’t really tell on the court. He could shoot from outside as well as anyone we have had in the last 20 years not named Douby. And his vertical on rebounds was insane...like he was hovering...yet I don’t remember him ever dunking. He and Herve could have been stars but I think something wasn’t clicking between their ears. CoreyChandleritis I think it’s called.
 
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jerome-coleman-1.html

Wow, we remember him as a guy that can shoot. Looking at %s this guy would fight right in with Corey and Mike.
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Yeah, his 3P% went way down, but his scoring only dropped off a little bit. He was always a "no conscience" volume shooter rather than a sharpshooter. His numbers do fit in with Sanders this year.

Coleman Sr: 30.5 min, 16.0 pts (.350 FG%, .295 3P%, .743 FT%), 3.6 rb, 1.8 ast, 1.9 stl, 2.1 tov, 2.8 pf
Sanders Jr: 33.1 min, 15.2 pts (.401 FG%, .224 3P%, .708 FT%), 4.3 rb, 3.1 ast, 1.3 stl, 2.2 tov, 1.6 pf
 
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Scarlet83

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Greene Rice FIG said:
I want 14 Geo Bakers and Eugene Os. Let’s go to war with guys that aren’t ultra gifted, but will be team players and stay out of trouble and do good in the class room.

I am guilty of generalizing. Sorry. Going the JUCo route of building a roster is playing with fire.

Now let’s land this guy and make me wrong and have him be the 2nd Steve Worrhy and get straight As and be Geo Bakers best friend for life.
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He is not going the JUCO route of building a roster.

He is trying to win more games next year.

We have 4 freshman players next year, with Johnson being a RS Frosh. It’s going to be hard to win games next year if some upperclassmen transfer and we add more freshman. Get it?
 
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