Let me guess, your a Hawkeye fan?? Am I right? Of course a Hawkeye fan would want Washington out of the picture...Maurice Washington absolutely TORCHED Iowa last year as a true freshman.
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Let me guess, your a Hawkeye fan?? Am I right? Of course a Hawkeye fan would want Washington out of the picture...Maurice Washington absolutely TORCHED Iowa last year as a true freshman.
Your presumption is absolutely incorrect, Your very limited knowledge of the legal system is blaring. You certainly can have your (misguided) opinion. Since you didn't answer my question, I assume that you have not bothered to even read the charging statutes in this case.
Oh, so you’re not a Iowa fan then eh?? You just defend Iowa and one of the RARE Husker fans that think Washington shouldnt play at all for a charge that took place while he was in high school? Yeah ok...I seen you jump to Iowa’s defense several times already and now this...screams Iowa fan. Just man up and admit it.
A bad look? Nobody outside of this fanbase gives a **** about this case and most likely don't even know who Maurice Washington is.
The university made a decision to play Maurice. Frost then played him.
The funny thing about this thread is, while I can enjoy everyone's take, that we don't know a flipping thing about what is going on and everyone here can be entirely off base.
Bad look? Man, are you trolling? Nebraska has had a "bad look" since 2012 or whenever the hell Wisconsin went in dry in front of the whole country. Playing Washington tells me they aren't worried much about this case, but I subscribe to "actions being louder than words" mantra
Delusional??? What about any of this is delusional??? Still not manning up I see. Here’s your first clue...if you’re going to pretend to be a Husker fan don’t defend Iowa at ever turn...second, you don’t wish and hope for one of our best player to not play at all. That will help the next time you create a name and try to troll a team.
So what's your best guess on how this all turns out? Not that any of us want to jump to conclusions or anything. The prosecutor is already discussing resolution of the case with the media. Does this get turfed to a federal court?
You are 100% an Iowa fan.
It may have nothing to do with your opinion on Washington but GTFO with the I’m a “fan of the university.”
Its a low bar standard: is there probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and the Defendant committed the charged crime. The sufficiency of evidence required at the preliminary hearing stage is almost always met and prosecutors often present the bare minimum of evidence to meet it Judges routinely find sufficient proof to bind the matter for trial where the standard of proof is much higher.
Prosecutors will not file an information or charging document tp begin with unless they believe they have sufficient proof to at least meet the preliminary standard. I would be very surprised if the charges are dismissed. Like an overwhelming majority of cases, the likely outcome will be a negotiated plea deal.
Right...and you’d assume. But DA still has to show there’s enough evidence (which Im guessing there is or at least should be) for the judge to proceed. This part of the process doesn’t make a lot of sense. But trust me, I don’t expect the judge to toss the case.
Edited... now that I think about it. This give the defense a chance to argue the evidence and if it’s true evidence or a stretch. So never mind, I get why they do this part now. My preliminary hearings where always waived. I’m guessing maybe Washington attorney is trying to push this past this years season? These things can take a year or over a year sometimes.
Given the likelihood of a probable cause finding, the primary objective of defense counsel at the PH stage is to cross-examine the State's witness(s) to not only test the sufficiency of evidence but to also make a formal record to possibly impeach the testimony at trial.
If a preliminary hearing is held in this matter I suspect that the prosecutor will simply call the lead investigator to testify what he/she has found and then rest their case. Defense counsel will then have the opportunity to grill the detective about the scope of his/her investigation and, importantly, the methods he/she may have used to gather evidence in the case (for possible constitutional challenges).
You're welcome to your opinion and I'm happy to keep mine. Just way too much focus/attention on the legal wranglings stuff in this country in my personal opinion.
Three minutes of research revealed that both Israel and Uruguay have more lawyers per capita than the U.S.. Get your facts straight. Why do you think there are so many lawyers? Could it be crime rates fueled by conservative drug laws that punish addiction as a crime? Could it be a litigious society? Could it be the kind of society that breeds message boards like this where know-it-all bags of gas spend their days arguing over nonsense (I include myself in this category)?
Just a guess, but I dunno, 5th A.? The scripture says no one can be compelled to be a witness against himself. If the state is going to charge the case, charge the case. Why would they need to wait for local counsel to return phone calls? There is no reason for local counsel to make his client available to law enforcement.
I don't believe that this is a federal case. I believe that that the state of California has charged the case, not the United States. Now, if there is child porn transmitted across state lines, then the Feds could take it. It can and does happen. However, I don't think that has happened at this point.
That sort of electronic evidence is asked for and received amazingly fast. The newest trend I have seen (via my work, not personal experience) is kids selling weed on snap chat and Facebook. Investigators, both state and federal can get those records via a valid warrant in days. Presumably, videos are not any more difficult to obtain than that evidence.
The issue is that this is a cell provider, not an app. Only 1 cell carrier retains content for more than 5 days, just logs and some don't retain it at all. It kind of depends on how quickly the mom went to the police and how quickly they were able to obtain a subpoena, if at all. Highly unlikely that a non-violent crime could be processed quickly enough.
I would imagine something that could make it complicated is if they have trouble trying to recover something from a computer or phone which has been deleted. I'm not a techie but we certainly hear lots of stories about people spending weeks or months trying to recover things. Thanks for weighing in. Your input has been educational.
If you are going to claim something is established fact, maybe you shouldn't cop an attitude when you are presented with evidence that proves your claim false
Well if you are pleading not guilty and apparently have nothing to hide, why not just answer the questions and move on?
It’s amazing every Washington thread about this subject is like beating a dead horse..
Let the subject die for now...
Let the subject die for now...
Itsallgood man. We're all not as versed in the law as we all should have been from high school government class. It's been a long time ago for some of us and it's tough to admit that maybe we were a little off in our view of things.
I try but it just keeps sucking me in. It's like another fresh cookie. I just can't stop until I'm physically ill.
Yep. In Nebraska and Colorado, (I am not licensed in California), the PH standard is the County Court is to determine if there enough Probable Cause to believe a felony occurred and the defendant may have had something to do with that felony. It is a low standard of proof and if the court finds the state has met its burden, then the case is bound over to District Court. Once the charging document (an Information in both NE and CO, not sure about CA), is filed and then speedy trial starts.
I am just guessing, but I can't see the revenge porn count sticking. If he sent it to the alleged victim, what sort of revenge is that? In my reading of the statute, its meant to punish dissemination to third parties. As far as the child porn count, that could be tough but it has to be intentional. Can the state even prove it was sent? Does she want to testify? I don't know the answers to these questions. Typically first time felonies are disposed of via misdo pleas or diversion. Maybe the continuances are for fulfilling any diversion requirements before any dipositional hearing. I am just an outsider look in like everyone else here, but I recognize there is lots I don't know about the case, so I will let his counsel deal with it.
There was nothing to plea Not Guilty to until a charging document was filed. Why would he speak to investigators? How would that possibly be in his best interest when he has no obligation to do so?
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You mean, if you had a 19-year-old client who could possibly be facing felony charges, you wouldn't just put him a room with investigators and say, "Tell these nice gentlemen everything they want to know."?
I’m not complaining about the thread. If you don’t want to participate, then don’t. You can skip over threads that have Washington and trial.
Why would he avoid phone calls from an investigator if he did nothing wrong? If I was accused of something I didn’t do, then I have no issues talking to people investigating that crime. If I didn’t text her, there would be no record of that text. If I didn’t hold on to the video, there would be no video to find on my phone.
Now if I had the video or I did text, then I would seek legal counsel. But that is just me.
Not if if I wanted to keep my license, look out for the interests of my client and didn't want to get razzed by my colleagues.
Are there a lot of people here insisting that Washington did nothing wrong?
I think he probably broke the law, and I think he'll probably be punished for it. All I want to see a fair outcome with an appropriate sentence, the chances of which are much greater if he has competent legal representation. Hiring an attorney doesn't make a person any more or less guilty of anything, ever.
I’m guessing this situation with Washington will get resolved someday, we’ll see what consequences he will face at such time. Is it really worth hassling about one another?
Lots of people see that the protection of their liberty interests do not include giving up their 5th and 6th Amendment rights. If you are that cavalier with your interests and protected rights, then that is your business.