Washington Post article with recruiting tidbits

[SC Tiger]

to be clear, I think both Smart and Saban are ********.

but that’s a straw man argument if I’ve ever heard one.

Dabo took it upon himself to do things like day he’d quit football if payers got plaid and to go out of his way to attack Kaepernick.

He’s the highest paid coach in America and he presents himself as a paragon of Christian virtue.

I think he generally IS a good person, but he’s had a huge blond spot about race and he totally biffed this.

So the scrutiny is warranted, IMO. If you want to say the Sabans and Smarts if the world deserve their own scrutiny too, you’ll find no argument from me. But that doesn’t make this article illegitimate.

If this was the only article sure. But he has been the media target for 2 months now.

And you can't say he is 'generally' a good person. He IS a good person. I don't even think he has a 'blind spot on race'. I think he loves and treats everyone exactly the same and would give anyone of his players the shirt off his back if he could. He is also smart enough to know that paying players in an open market will destroy college football. Pretty sure he has been on record as being for money being set aside for players if they graduate or all players getting the same amount so it doesn't create a recruiting advantage.

He is still one of the 'good guys' in college athletics but has been portrayed as the worst. It's disgusting.

 

[JRBB]

Doesnt every school have some ties to some form of founders with a past associated to slavery? I dont know how any school in the east to the mid south wouldnt have something that could be (in present day PC culture) viewed as a negative association?

I’m not editorializing or rationalizing. Just presenting the facts that appeared in the article,
Without the slant the writer put on them. But yes, most any college founded in the antebellum period prolly had some slave ties one way or another. North or south. And in the absence of that, some founding member or influential alum that had shall we say “antiquated” notions about his fellow man. .

 

[acwill07]

Disagree, and if you read the article there are others that disagree with you. Dabos first statement was basically him being tone deaf and not understanding the situation (something he has admitted). Although the shirt he wore wasn’t wrong, he completely lacked situational awareness. Both of those were mistakes.

********. The shirt wasn’t a mistake and neither was anything Dabo said. All of the criticism he and the university has endured is complete and utter ********.

 

[acwill07]

There are going to be a lot of uncomfortable people on TI come Nov. 4 when it will clear a new president will occupy the White House in Jan 2021. One can support Black Lives Matter and not be a Marxist. One can be a White leader for anti racism and not be an anarchist. One can read the Washington Post sports section and not think the department is controlled by the “Squad” on Capitol Hill. Go Tigers.

The only reason I’ll be uncomfortable on Nov 4th is due to the fact that the country elected a dementia riddled 77 year old who seems like he’s 107.

 

[mccadoyle]

I usually can take the orange glasses off compared to a lot of this board but anyone who thinks that article wasn't slanted has some left-leaning glasses.

I think it's fair to say that many around the program were legitimately displeased with Dabo's first statement.

I'm not sure that initial displeasure warrants a 3 page diatribe 2 months later.

The bottom line as someone earlier in the thread said is that Dabo is legitimately one of the good guys in college athletics. The fact that people are tripping all over themselves to cancel him because of that initial statement is a joke.

Go dig around in some of the programs that process kids and treat them like commodities rather than people and you may actually find some dirt.

I guarantee this assclown had 50 glowing quotes he could've used and cherry picked the 5 with slightly negative connotations to form this article.

 

[acwill07]

to be clear, I think both Smart and Saban are ********.

but that’s a straw man argument if I’ve ever heard one.

Dabo took it upon himself to do things like day he’d quit football if payers got plaid and to go out of his way to attack Kaepernick.

He’s the highest paid coach in America and he presents himself as a paragon of Christian virtue.

I think he generally IS a good person, but he’s had a huge blond spot about race and he totally biffed this.

So the scrutiny is warranted, IMO. If you want to say the Sabans and Smarts if the world deserve their own scrutiny too, you’ll find no argument from me. But that doesn’t make this article illegitimate.

LOL at Dabo having “a huge blind spot” about race....because you didn’t think his initial comments on the Floyd murder were sufficient? That’s complete and utter nonsense. Dabo is a football coach and frankly shouldn’t have had to say anything publicly about Floyd or his murder. That one incident doesn’t mean he has a blind spot about anything. Ask his black players how he treats them like members of his own family...,

you keep saying everyone is triggered, but your extreme number of replies ITT would indicate you are the one who is upset.

 

[kgwillison]

The only reason I’ll be uncomfortable on Nov 4th is due to the fact that the country elected a dementia riddled 77 year old who seems like he’s 107.

Well I guess we now know our current President isn’t demented because he brags about passing a test that asked him to correctly identify an elephant, say 5 words in succession, and subtract 7 from 100. I think when we all watch the debates we will see who makes the most sense and can speak without using the words “tremendous” or “beautiful” a dozen times. I think we will also see an administration that looks more like America than one that has a single black person among its highest ranks. Imagine if Dabo had just 1 black assistant!

 

[acwill07]

Well I guess we now know our current President isn’t demented because he brags about passing a test that asked him to correctly identify an elephant, say 5 words in succession, and subtract 7 from 100. I think when we all watch the debates we will see who makes the most sense and can speak without using the words “tremendous” or “beautiful” a dozen times. I think we will also see an administration that looks more like America than one that has a single black person among its highest ranks. Imagine if Dabo had just 1 black assistant!

It’s typical for you to care how many black people are in an administration or on a coaching staff. How many Hispanics will be in Biden’s administration? The fact that you brought this up at all speaks volumes.

And I’m not a Trump fan I think he’s a buffoon. I just happen to think the dems are bigger buffoons, evidenced by the golden opportunity they had and Joe freaking Biden, a dude who barely remembers his own name, is the best they could come up with. It’s pitiful.

 

[kgwillison]

I think there will be Blacks, Hispanics and Asians well represented in a Biden administration. As they should be.

You are correct. Trump is a buffoon. A dangerous and unbalanced buffoon. Americans have a choice on Nov 3 to change the direction of the country or keep it deteriorating for 4 more years.

We will see how they decide.

 

[slycat]

The democrat party is what is dangerous and unbalanced.

 

[kgwillison]

I agree we need to put people in office based on their qualifications. Has Trump done that? Is there only one black person (a neurosurgeon) who is qualified for his cabinet? I don’t think so. And you may not think our country is a bastion of inequality, but neither is it a bastion of equality. I call your attention to this linked article:

https://bit.ly/3hDPzP2

It shows just how damn difficult it is to overcome centuries of inequality. Look, for instance, at the chart showing that a white high school graduate earns more on average than a black college graduate! Is that fair?

 

[SC Tiger]

I agree we need to put people in office based on their qualifications. Has Trump done that? Is there only one black person (a neurosurgeon) who is qualified for his cabinet? I don’t think so. And you may not think our country is a bastion of inequality, but neither is it a bastion of equality. I call your attention to this linked article:

https://bit.ly/3hDPzP2

It shows just how damn difficult it is to overcome centuries of inequality. Look, for instance, at the chart showing that a white high school graduate earns more on average than a black college graduate! Is that fair?

There is no question blacks on average are at a disadvantage due to a lack of generational wealth, education gap, lack of expectations, etc. I just don't know what the solution is.