Wash Post admits liberal bias

[WVPATX]

Believe it or nor, I have corresponded Eric Wemple several times over the years. We have had a great debate about liberal bias in the main stream media. He encouraged me to send him my examples, which I have though the years. He seems sincere in trying to learn.

One thing he has not yet accepted from me is my claim that the media is not biased, but corrupt. They know and plan exactly what stories to cover, how much coverage to give and the slant on those stories. He is not there yet, but I am still making my case.

He is one that I have found with an open mind and willing to listen. I believe the Trump years will give me more than ample evidence of that corruption.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...es-liberal-bias-claim-has-documentary-backing

By the way, so that you understand that I am an equal opportunity person of opinion. I had a long email exchange one the Mexican Wall with Jonah Goldberg, a famous NEVERYTRUMPer that writes for several publications and is on Fox. To be honest, I found his argument unpersuasive as I'm sure he found mine. For example, he thinks even though Mexico is mainly responsible for our border mess, that Trump would not make Mexico pay for it. I countered that while Mexico won't write a check, they will pay for it. He gave the line that the American consumer will end up paying for it though tariffs. I asked him two questions: 1). How does he know that Trump is going to impose tariffs to recaputure those costs and 2) Does he acknowledge several other methods to extract payment (e.g. fees on funds transferred from U.S. banks to Mexico, for example).

Lastly, I told him that he can't possibly be an effective opinion journalist unless he leaves his cloistered bubble and actually travels around the country. He has never been to the border. He has never spoken to border agents. He has never traveled to Southern WV and see the devastation and talk to the people. Same in PA, OH, MI, and WI. I told him that is why he was so shocked on Election Day. He admitted that the Dems want votes and the GOP wants cheap labor and prefer more open borders than not. Lastly, I gave him specific examples of how wages are being depressed, at least where I live in Texas, by illegals. I own part of a high-end residential construction business. Approximately 60% of our contractors are Hispanic. The owners have papers that we assiduously collect. But I can guarantee you their employees (or independent contractors are not). They undercut other bidders by as much as 50% and have driven some of them out of business. Try living in their shoes for a while and tell them cheap, illegal labor is good for Texas and the country. Jonah, had no response.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Believe it or nor, I have corresponded Eric Wemple several times over the years. We have had a great debate about liberal bias in the main stream media. He encouraged me to send him my examples, which I have though the years. He seems sincere in trying to learn.

One thing he has not yet accepted from me is my claim that the media is not biased, but corrupt. They know and plan exactly what stories to cover, how much coverage to give and the slant on those stories. He is not there yet, but I am still making my case.

He is one that I have found with an open mind and willing to listen. I believe the Trump years will give me more than ample evidence of that corruption.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...es-liberal-bias-claim-has-documentary-backing

By the way, so that you understand that I am an equal opportunity person of opinion. I had a long email exchange one the Mexican Wall with Jonah Goldberg, a famous NEVERYTRUMPer that writes for several publications and is on Fox. To be honest, I found his argument unpersuasive as I'm sure he found mine. For example, he thinks even though Mexico is mainly responsible for our border mess, that Trump would not make Mexico pay for it. I countered that while Mexico won't write a check, they will pay for it. He gave the line that the American consumer will end up paying for it though tariffs. I asked him two questions: 1). How does he know that Trump is going to impose tariffs to recaputure those costs and 2) Does he acknowledge several other methods to extract payment (e.g. fees on funds transferred from U.S. banks to Mexico, for example).

Lastly, I told him that he can't possibly be an effective opinion journalist unless he leaves his cloistered bubble and actually travels around the country. He has never been to the border. He has never spoken to border agents. He has never traveled to Southern WV and see the devastation and talk to the people. Same in PA, OH, MI, and WI. I told him that is why he was so shocked on Election Day. He admitted that the Dems want votes and the GOP wants cheap labor and prefer more open borders than not. Lastly, I gave him specific examples of how wages are being depressed, at least where I live in Texas, by illegals. I own part of a high-end residential construction business. Approximately 60% of our contractors are Hispanic. The owners have papers that we assiduously collect. But I can guarantee you their employees (or independent contractors are not). They undercut other bidders by as much as 50% and have driven some of them out of business. Try living in their shoes for a while and tell them cheap, illegal labor is good for Texas and the country. Jonah, had no response.

I quit reading when you said you beleive the media is corrupt. It isn't anybody's responsibility to report completely unbiased news. You are biased to the right. It's your right and everybody is ok with that. If you were a reporter, broadcaster, opinion writer, you would lean right. That's ok Pax.

 

[WVPATX]

I quit reading when you said you beleive the media is corrupt. It isn't anybody's responsibility to report completely unbiased news. You are biased to the right. It's your right and everybody is ok with that. If you were a reporter, broadcaster, opinion writer, you would lean right. That's ok Pax.

I understand as does the Post writer that most journalist lean left. We expect bias. What we don't expect is corruption. Bias is an UNINTENTIONAL slanting of the news. Corruption is a planned, orchestrated reporting of the news to achieve a desired outcome. For example, take the Kermit Gosnell trial in Philly. He was the radical abortion doctor who was the largest serial killer in U.S. history. The old newspaper adage is if it bleeds, it leads. This is a from The USA Today, written by a liberal journalists for his trial:

Says Kirsten Powers in her USA Today op-ed, "Let me state the obvious. This should be front page news. When Rush Limbaugh attacked Sandra Fluke, there was non-stop media hysteria. The venerable NBC Nightly News' Brian Williams intoned, 'A firestorm of outrage from women after a crude tirade from Rush Limbaugh,' as he teased a segment on the brouhaha. Yet, accusations of babies having their heads severed -- a major human rights story if there ever was one -- doesn't make the cut."

Here is a photo of the journalist section of the courtroom:

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/12/shocking-photo-shows-empty-media-benches-at-kermit-gosnell-trial/

The media decided on a planned, orchestrated basis to avoid this trial. Why? They are for the right to choose and don't want to shine a light that could hurt that cause. This is but one example of many, many others.

 

[Walter Brennaneer]

I quit reading when you said you beleive the media is corrupt. It isn't anybody's responsibility to report completely unbiased news. You are biased to the right. It's your right and everybody is ok with that. If you were a reporter, broadcaster, opinion writer, you would lean right. That's ok Pax.

Major fail by OM. "everybody is ok with that"

LMAO

 

[atlkvb]

PAX you may or may not have read on here in one of my posts (I think I was responding to countryroads89) that I used to work in the media. I worked as a Reporter/Anchor...first in radio, then T-V. I got to network level, worked for ABC, Fox, CBS, as well as NPR. I can tell you from first hand experience, it is as bad (corruption) and worse than you describe. You only see the finished product, you have not sat in on the planning meetings of the Producers, Assignment Editors, Reporters, and New Directors who actually plan the coverage and make decisions on what stories actually get covered.

That's where the true bias and corruption is. As I said, it's every bit as sinister as you describe. Decisions are made not to inform the public, but to influence them. Not to cover the story as we found it, but to shape it into the agenda we were promoting. That's not Journalism...I call it "lying with the Truth" and the media is engaged in a systematic purposeful deliberate operation everyday on every story to push their Liberal, Left wing agenda at the expense of Truth or facts.

You are 100% correct about the corruption.

 

[WVPATX]

PAX you may or may not have read on here in one of my posts (I think I was responding to countryroads89) that I used to work in the media. I worked as a Reporter/Anchor...first in radio, then T-V. I got to network level, worked for ABC, Fox, CBS, as well as NPR. I can tell you from first hand experience, it is as bad (corruption) and worse than you describe. You only see the finished product, you have not sat in on the planning meetings of the Producers, Assignment Editors, Reporters, and New Directors who actually plan the coverage and make decisions on what stories actually get covered.

That's where the true bias and corruption is. As I said, it's every bit as sinister as you describe. Decisions are made not to inform the public, but to influence them. Not to cover the story as we found it, but to shape it into the agenda we were promoting. That's not Journalism...I call it "lying with the Truth" and the media is engaged in a systematic purposeful deliberate operation everyday on every story to push their Liberal, Left wing agenda at the expense of Truth or facts.

You are 100% correct about the corruption.

Never knew you worked in the media. And at a lot of places. 20 years ago, I attributed it to bias, slanted for sure but unintentional. But I have seen too many stories ignored. To many small stories made huge ones. They follow every suspect police shooting and almost convict them on the air. Then when a non person of color is shot by the cops, crickets.

I thought your background was in economics or finance.

 

[atlkvb]

Never knew you worked in the media. And at a lot of places. 20 years ago, I attributed it to bias, slanted for sure but unintentional. But I have seen too many stories ignored. To many small stories made huge ones. They follow every suspect police shooting and almost convict them on the air. Then when a non person of color is shot by the cops, crickets.

I thought your background was in economics or finance.

I became more well versed in both of those PAX once I got out of the media and was put in charge of managing auto parts inventories at various Dealerships worth several hundreds of thousands of dollars, and in the most recent case an inventory in excess 1.4 million in my role as Inventory control specialist at Mall of Georgia Ford in Buford Georgia.

You get to learn profit and loss real quick when your CFO wants to know why you're carrying 20,000 dollars worth of idle inventory?

I also was a business and economics correspondent for KNX Newsradio in Los Angeles (CBS)--my specialty was Government finance and economic development, so I got an up close look at both the waste behind big Government income redistribution, and businesses lobbying for relief/favors from same.

So you might say my baptism into the world of economics and finance was trial by fire sort of.