Wake Forest?

[williamwardii]

Not surprising. Larger, more comprehensive Universities will rank higher on the CWUR ranking because there will be more and more impactful publications and patents out of the larger Universities.

USNAWR ranking depends a lot on reputation, which, as stated above by one organization is a risky way of doing rankings.

For example, a student wishing to major in ceramic engineering would be wise to choose Alfred University in upstate New York over any Ivy, Stanford or Carnegie Mellon. Alfred University is world renowned in ceramic science and engineering, while the Ivies and other schools are not

Similar situation for football players and other athletes selecting a university. In one respect, it is admirable for all of the best players to want to play for storied, perennially ranked programs. But what is the reality? Do athletes get to choose their major? Do they have a life after football program? Will they see the field?

The "best" Universities ultimately is a subjective thing, depending on each student's needs and desires for what they want in a college education. Too many kids are chasing ivies and Stanford and Carnegie Mellon when they should be choosing the best place for them and their intended major, if they know it. @RU848789 may have something to say about this too?

ditto this post. My daughter is now graduating from the Wake Forest Physician Assistant program, ranked 7th in the nation. Their medical facilities are second to none.

 

[Retired711]

This is from an e-mail I received from an esteemed professor at one of the top 5 universities in the United States:

"The other thing to remember about rankings is that they are mostly about research, not about undergraduate teaching. No matter where you go, you will have some fantastic teachers and some terrible ones. Your most important teachers will be the grad students who run your discussion and lab sections, not the big-name professor who teaches the class of 500 students. "

In general --and only in general -- the best professors attract the best graduate students. This gives the undergrads at the "best schools: a greater shot at a good introduction to college, but unfortunately there is no necessary correlation between brilliance and ability to teach. That is especially true these days when so many graduate students do not have English as their native language.

BTW, I went to Berkeley when it had 17,000 undergrads, and I don't remember a single TA past my freshman year. Maybe I just picked classes well, but I think the role of grad students in teaching is exaggerated. OTOH, part-timers have become very frequent in higher education.

 

[Knight Shift]

In general --and only in general -- the best professors attract the best graduate students. This gives the undergrads at the "best schools: a greater shot at a good introduction to college, but unfortunately there is no necessary correlation between brilliance and ability to teach. That is especially true these days when so many graduate students do not have English as their native language.

BTW, I went to Berkeley when it had 17,000 undergrads, and I don't remember a single TA past my freshman year. Maybe I just picked classes well, but I think the role of grad students in teaching is exaggerated. OTOH, part-timers have become very frequent in higher education.

What you said in bold mirrors something else in that e-mail. Interestingly, the professor I referred to is at Berkeley. Small world.
My memory of TAs from Rutgers Engineering is similar. The only TAs I remember were particularly bad.

 

[late knight]

ditto this post. My daughter is now graduating from the Wake Forest Physician Assistant program, ranked 7th in the nation. Their medical facilities are second to none.

They are second to #6.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Won 15 games in the last 2 seasons with 2 bowl victories.

LOL! I wonder what they would do with our schedule the last two year? I am guessing zero bowl games and at least half the wins or worse.