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we penetrate kick to him, give him wide open looks and he turns the shot down and drives into defenders. And, we have a damn shooter in Nwora on the bench??? I don’t get DP. I don’t get him at all!
 

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I'm just guessing here... Nwora may not bust it in practice the way Padgett wants. And if true, you can't play that kid regardless because it tells everyone else on the team that practice effort doesn't matter. That would be a disaster.

There's a reason the kid doesn't play. And it's not because Padgett's oblivious to how well one guy plays vs another. Nor is there an agenda. Padgett's coaching for his job...
 

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I'm just guessing here... Nwora may not bust it in practice the way Padgett wants. And if true, you can't play that kid regardless because it tells everyone else on the team that practice effort doesn't matter. That would be a disaster.

There's a reason the kid doesn't play. And it's not because Padgett's oblivious to how well one guy plays vs another. Nor is there an agenda. Padgett's coaching for his job...
For his job??? Are you serious! He’s got about a week or two, can’t wait for DP’s **** show to be over. I really appreciate him stepping up but damn I think he’s average at best. This is torture.
 
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I'm just guessing here... Nwora may not bust it in practice the way Padgett wants. And if true, you can't play that kid regardless because it tells everyone else on the team that practice effort doesn't matter. That would be a disaster.

There's a reason the kid doesn't play. And it's not because Padgett's oblivious to how well one guy plays vs another. Nor is there an agenda. Padgett's coaching for his job...
I thought that too, but not sure I buy it. They wanted Padgett because he is a softy, so I don’t think he would be hard on one guy for not going hard in practice. Other than Perry the young guys have been riding the pine lately.

He watches Adel and King, in particular, make selfish, foolish, and ill timed mistakes over and over yet he keeps playing them big minutes. Adel I get, because he does occasionally get hot, but if he was “coaching for his life”, he would not tolerate that stuff. It’s not like Nwora and Williams weren’t productive earlier this year.
 

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Dang , VJ has had so many chances to be " Big Boy " on campus but continues to fail. He just looks lost . It's sad
 
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King has no idea how to play at this level. He does it every single game passing up a wide open shot to drive which result in taking a bad shot, turnover or getting his shot block. He is a good shooter but he insist on driving the ball. He is extremely frustrating to watch.
 

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I thought that too, but not sure I buy it. They wanted Padgett because he is a softy, so I don’t think he would be hard on one guy for not going hard in practice...
Originally, they chose Pitino because they DIDN'T want a soft coach. IMO as his replacement, they wanted Padgett over any other coach they didn't know. They would have picked Steve Kragthorpe if he was a student trainer...
 

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You're about to find out what real torture is. Wait until it's all walk-ons playing in 2 or 3 years.
Not if you hire a stud head coach. Big-shot Tyra is gonna get his chance. Only the single biggest hire in the history of our athletic program is laying in his lap. No pressure Vince!
 
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King has never looked comfortable. He has certainly been a disappointment, fans were expecting a lot more from a 5 star player. He's just been unable to put it together.

He stuck with the Cards through Katina so he probably deserves more love, even if his career has been in neutral.
 

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So some of you who have not likely coached a pee wee game and haven't seen a minute of practice and probably didn't even ever play the game at a high level think you know more than DP? You think he is sitting a kid that can help him win games and keep his job? He is too stupid or stubborn to do what is best for him and his team? Have you ever watched nowra play defense? It's atrocious. He is completely lost. Most of these kids didn't play much defense in aau games. It was all about scoring. They have to be broken down and reprogrammed. Some refuse to adjust. Most figure it out. None of us know why the kid isn't playing but I trust the coach to make his best assessment and play to win. It is really jsut insane that we as fans try to speculate who should be playing based on seeing a kid for 40 minutes a week. You are free to criticize and you may be right but you have maybe one percent of the information needed to make that call.
 
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None of us know why the kid isn't playing but I trust the coach to make his best assessment and play to win.

Agreed - nobody has a clue why he isn't playing.

It's commonplace for rotations to "tighten" late in the year anyway, so he may simply be the odd man out.

DP made a great move with the lineup to get a W @ Va Tech.
 
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I have never worried about who gets time or not. For anyone to think a coach sits players that can actually help them win a game is crazy. It has always been up to the player to force the coach to play them. They do that by playing extremely hard in practice and performing when they get in. I don't know but reading the tea leaves Nwora is a terrible practice player and a good game day player.
 
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I would just as soon watch Nwora get beat on defense (assuming that is the issue) than watch Adel and King make mistake after mistake and take bad shots. And it is not as though those two are exactly lock down defenders either.
 
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I would just as soon watch Nwora get beat on defense (assuming that is the issue) than watch Adel and King make mistake after mistake and take bad shots. And it is not as though those two are exactly lock down defenders either.

Hard to assume what the issue is if Padgett has not openly discussed it.

King actually played great D vs UVA's top player the other night - really frustrated him it was one of the biggest keys to the Cards being in position to win.

The problems this team has/had would not have been resolved with more Nwora.
 

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Nwora averaged 13 points a game and was the ACC freshmen of the week just a couple of weeks ago. He would have to not show up for practice at all! His dad is a long time college coach. He knows the deal. Hard to figure out.
 

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So some of you who have not likely coached a pee wee game and haven't seen a minute of practice and probably didn't even ever play the game at a high level think you know more than DP? You think he is sitting a kid that can help him win games and keep his job? He is too stupid or stubborn to do what is best for him and his team? Have you ever watched nowra play defense? It's atrocious. He is completely lost. Most of these kids didn't play much defense in aau games. It was all about scoring. They have to be broken down and reprogrammed. Some refuse to adjust. Most figure it out. None of us know why the kid isn't playing but I trust the coach to make his best assessment and play to win. It is really jsut insane that we as fans try to speculate who should be playing based on seeing a kid for 40 minutes a week. You are free to criticize and you may be right but you have maybe one percent of the information needed to make that call.
DP and his staff make many b-ball Coaching - 101 mistakes. Example: they knew Duke would play a 2-3 zone yet started the game with Anas in the middle going elbow-to-elbow. You can’t put him there when he is NO THREAT OFFENSIVELY from that spot.

In that situation you have to put your most versitale offensive player in that spot, one who can turn and face the rim, shoot the 15 footer with consistency as well as be able to drive it to the rim or kick to shooters. That’s not Anas - yet that’s who they put there. Blatant 6th grade coaching mistake.
 

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DP and his staff make many b-ball Coaching - 101 mistakes. Example: they knew Duke would play a 2-3 zone yet started the game with Anas in the middle going elbow-to-elbow. You can’t put him there when he is NO THREAT OFFENSIVELY from that spot.

In that situation you have to put your most versitale offensive player in that spot, one who can turn and face the rim, shoot the 15 footer with consistency as well as be able to drive it to the rim or kick to shooters. That’s not Anas - yet that’s who they put there. Blatant 6th grade coaching mistake.
Hmmm... I have always heard you put one of your better passers there. I guess you’re not qualified to coach 6th grade.
 

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Hmmm... I have always heard you put one of your better passers there. I guess you’re not qualified to coach 6th grade.
We had success running a 1-3-1 offense against the 2-3. The center doesn't have to be your best ball handler but be able to pass, hit the 12-15 footer and finish coming down the lane. Ray beats Anas on 2 of the 3.
 

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Yeah Ray started off shooting that 12-15 footer. I’d rather have him at the rim dunking.
 

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Yeah Ray started off shooting that 12-15 footer. I’d rather have him at the rim dunking.
Me too. I wish Anas had that 12-15 foot range because he can pass better than the other bigs. Williams thinks he's a 2guard. Ray finishes at the rim better than anyone else, and Anas is only good for the occasional garbage bucket and/or alley-oops along with blocking shots. That hook shot of his is not good.
 

zipp_rivals

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DP can't coach against a zone, but he's mastered the pack line defense. Makes sense... :confused:
 
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VJ is an enigma. When I saw him in high school, I thought he was pretty much as close to any kid we've ever recruited to coming in and starring right off the bat. He really could do it all at the high school level. Post down low or float on the perimeter, which he chose to do most of the time.His body looked ready, maybe put on a few pounds of muscle if anything. But, it doesn't look like he has changed his body much. I envisioned him as possibly a banger with some weight and his length, but that doesn't seem to be in his game. His perimeter game is sooooo inconsistent. He has no confidence in his outside J it doesn't look like. I submit that he is out of balance a lot during his shooting movement, and if he would concentrate on just going straight up his numbers might improve. His ballhandling is not tight enough to be a slasher. It's as if he has not found his niche. Take a Larry O Bannon. He worked his tail off to develop his stationary jump shot as he was not long enough to be a slasher, and it worked for him.It probably doesn't help that he has been the recipient of a coaching change as there very well could be two different philosophies as to what type player he is to be in the end. His defense is hit and miss and doesn't seem to have the lateral quickness to guard even the 3. Gets pushed around inside by 4s. I don't know.Kinda feel for the kid, but I don't really know what the answer is. IMO, he wasn't overated in HS, but for some reason he has not been coached up at this level.
 
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