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[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

What AI did you use?

What exactly are you disputing? "American Folkstyle Wrestling" was adapted directly from "English Catch-As-Catch-Can Wrestling". English Catch-As-Catch-Can Wrestling was the basis for Freestyle Wrestling introduced to the Olympics in 1904.

Are you disputing this? :

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Yes, English catch-as-catch-can wrestling is the direct ancestor of modern freestyle wrestling. Originating in Lancashire, England, in the 19th century, it was a "catch-all" style allowing holds anywhere on the body, including legs. When refined for the Olympics and amateur competition, it dropped submission holds (like joint locks) to become modern freestyle wrestling.
This video explains how catch-as-catch-can wrestling influenced modern, freestyle wrestling:


Key relationships between the two include:

• Origins: Catch-as-catch-can developed as a "no-holds-barred" folk style in Northern England before spreading to America.
• Evolution: Early 20th-century Olympic "catch-as-catch-can" competitions, aiming to improve safety, banned submissions (joint locks, chokes) and became recognized as "freestyle" wrestling.
• Rule Similarities: Both styles allow for takedowns, attacks to the legs, and pinning the opponent to the mat.
• Difference: Traditional Catch-as-catch-can (or "Catch Wrestling") continues today as a submission-focused style, whereas Olympic Freestyle is strictly for points/pins.

In essence, freestyle wrestling is the amateur, non-submission version of the original, more brutal English catch-as-catch-can style.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

What AI did you use?

Or are you disputing that there is a shared Requirement in both Free and Folk that both wrestlers work to score at all times in Neutral?.... and if only one wrestler is pursuing and actively attempting to engage while the other wrestler consistently breaks ties, backs away, circles away to evade engagement, etc... that it is Stalling in either format?

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

That AI post has so many flaws it's comical. Making a note never reply to JoePa

The fundamental definition of Stalling/Passivity in both Free and Folk is the same - it is when one wrestler is consistently and predominantly working to score, while the other wrestler is consistently and predominantly acting in a defensive or passive manner (i.e., fleeing ties, backing away, circling away from pursuing wrestler, etc....). Wrestling the way Taylor was wrestling in Neutral was a clear violation - are you really disputing this?