Vic didn't exactly bring his "A" game

jdbulldog

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he can't play for them but he could have done some things differently. No way should Tierra have been defending Wilson once she picked up her third foul...he waited too long to switch. SC got multiple scores almost uncontested. Bibby should have been given more minutes. And where in this world did Morgan William go? She was our only spark and Vic removed her? i know a ton of coaches hate the zone, but for someone to be known as the Secretary of Defense he must be willing to try something different when another team is imposing its will in the paint. I have always believed players win and lose games but coaches have bad games, too. Yesterday was a bad one for Vic.
 

BiscuitEater

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We had a bad game. Hate it happened in the SECT. Nobody's happy about it. BUT to think ANY MSU fan knows more about the MSU WBB team than Vic borders on ludicrous.

On Monday, MSU will be the #2 WBB team in the country.
 

Dogariffic

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Truly the only reason we lost is because we missed a bunch of threes. Hit just a few and the inside game scores some more as well
and then we win.
 

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...and likely a #2 seed heading to the NW

I don’t get why people are freaking out about this possibility. It’s not like Kansas City and Lexington are just up the road. Plus it would mean that Oregon is our 2 seed, and that is the one 2 seed that I don’t fear whatsoever. SC can beat us, Notre Dame or Baylor can beat us, even Texas worries me (they played UConn really close). But Oregon can’t handle us. I’m not even convinced they would even make it to the Elite 8.
 

jdbulldog

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We had a bad game. Hate it happened in the SECT. Nobody's happy about it. BUT to think ANY MSU fan knows more about the MSU WBB team than Vic borders on ludicrous.

On Monday, MSU will be the #2 WBB team in the country.

I never professed to know more than Vic about our basketball team. This team will play in the national championship and and may win it. However, I believe Vic, as he always does, will critique himself quite harshly and will conclude this was not one of his best in game strategic jobs. I 1000% know I could not have done and never could do what he does as well as he does it. We will retain our #2 ranking and will play in the KC Regional when that time comes.
 

tcdog70

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You can't sit Big T on the bench for a half-not against SC. We are too small without Her. Where was Bibby to guard their bigs. Blair unless she is hot can't defend.A zone would have been something to try.
 

patdog

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Exactly. I posted 2 weeks ago that our easiest road to the Final Four goes through Seattle.
 

klong-dog

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I don’t get why people are freaking out about this possibility. It’s not like Kansas City and Lexington are just up the road. Plus it would mean that Oregon is our 2 seed, and that is the one 2 seed that I don’t fear whatsoever. SC can beat us, Notre Dame or Baylor can beat us, even Texas worries me (they played UConn really close). But Oregon can’t handle us. I’m not even convinced they would even make it to the Elite 8.
Oregon put up like 80 on our defense in Starkville. If we shoot anything close to what we did yesterday, we get beat. You give them the home crowd, who knows. They are young but they are quick and can all shoot it.
 

Ranchdawg

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he can't play for them but he could have done some things differently. No way should Tierra have been defending Wilson once she picked up her third foul...he waited too long to switch. SC got multiple scores almost uncontested. Bibby should have been given more minutes. And where in this world did Morgan William go? She was our only spark and Vic removed her? i know a ton of coaches hate the zone, but for someone to be known as the Secretary of Defense he must be willing to try something different when another team is imposing its will in the paint. I have always believed players win and lose games but coaches have bad games, too. Yesterday was a bad one for Vic.

Evidently USC was more prepared to play 3 games in 3 days and we were not. We missed layups, easy jumpers and all but 2 of our three point shots. We had to work hard to lose to USC so that is saying a lot about this team. Shaefer missed 5 3s which is saying a lot. The tourney only requires 2 games in 3 days so running the gauntlet isn't required.
 

kired

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I wonder if his refusal to go to the bench on Saturday led to our crappy game on Sunday. Three games in three days --- two of those against top 15 teams, is a heck of a grind. Especially when you play 5 starters almost the entire game 2. Johnson & Blair were missing shots they usually nail, McCowan had a couple of shots that she threw off the top of the backboard. Just a terribly sloppy game.

But I still think it's just Vic trying to prepare them for the ncaa tournament when you've got to win two big games in three days.
 

MSUDC11

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...and likely a #2 seed heading to the NW

Oregon put up like 80 on our defense in Starkville. If we shoot anything close to what we did yesterday, we get beat. You give them the home crowd, who knows. They are young but they are quick and can all shoot it.

They also can’t defend Teaira whatsoever. She had 35 and 19 against them in December. We are a horrible matchup for them because we can shoot just as good as they can plus we can be super physical.

I’m not saying Oregon is a bad team, but they are the worst of the potential 2 seeds for sure. I’d much rather see them in the Elite 8 than Notre Dame or SC, regardless of where that game is played.
 

maroonmania

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You can't sit Big T on the bench for a half-not against SC. We are too small without Her. Where was Bibby to guard their bigs. Blair unless she is hot can't defend.A zone would have been something to try.

When Big T initially got in foul trouble we did try bringing in both Campbell and Bibby together but it didn't really seem to help that much although we should have stuck with Bibby longer if we were going to sit Big T the entire rest of the first half. Bottom line is though, without T we are just not big enough to deal with SC inside. Our only hope playing the small lineup was to score from 3 land and score in transition and we failed at both. In hindsight we should have switched to a defense to protect T from foul trouble rather than just sitting her out. We can't beat SC with T only playing less than half the game.
 

BiscuitEater

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I never professed to know more than Vic about our basketball team. However, I believe Vic, as he always does ..

Sorry, when you used the word 'HOWEVER,' you "professed to know MORE than Vic about our basketball team."
 

BiscuitEater

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Oregon put up like 80 on our defense in Starkville. If we shoot anything close to what we did yesterday, we get beat. You give them the home crowd, who knows. They are young but they are quick and can all shoot it.

Yo .. 'IF' we go out west and 'IF' we play Oregon, it will be the EASIEST path to the finals. Yes, Oregon scored 79 BUT State had 90. Oregon has NO ANSWER for McCowen. She had 35 points on 15 of 18 (83%) AND 19 rebounds.

NEWSFLASH .. ANY team that shoots as bad as MSU did yesterday .. is NOT going to the finals.
 

klong-dog

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Yo .. 'IF' we go out west and 'IF' we play Oregon, it will be the EASIEST path to the finals. Yes, Oregon scored 79 BUT State had 90. Oregon has NO ANSWER for McCowen. She had 35 points on 15 of 18 (83%) AND 19 rebounds.

NEWSFLASH .. ANY team that shoots as bad as MSU did yesterday .. is NOT going to the finals.

Well if you have faith in big T staying out of foul trouble, especially in road atmosphere, that's great. Even if she stays out of foul trouble, they will triple team her, hopefully we won't be off again. I imagine Oregon will get the home court treatment, like USC gets every time we play them, except when in the Hump.
 

She Mate Me

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I don’t get why people are freaking out about this possibility. It’s not like Kansas City and Lexington are just up the road. Plus it would mean that Oregon is our 2 seed, and that is the one 2 seed that I don’t fear whatsoever. SC can beat us, Notre Dame or Baylor can beat us, even Texas worries me (they played UConn really close). But Oregon can’t handle us. I’m not even convinced they would even make it to the Elite 8.

If we play the way we did yesterday, Oregon will likely beat us worse than SC. They are a better offensive team. I don't understand the arrogance involved in believing a 2 seed can't beat us.
 

BiscuitEater

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Well if you have faith in big T staying out of foul trouble, especially in road atmosphere, that's great. Even if she stays out of foul trouble, they will triple team her, hopefully we won't be off again.

AGAIN, They have ALREADY played and McCowan had 35 points on 15 of 18 shooting (83%) AND she only had 3 fouls. Oregon does NOT have an ansere to 6-7 in the post. Please, please triple team her .. means we will have two players completely UNGUARDED. MSU ONLY committed 7 TOTAL fouls last time we played.

ANYTHING can happen .. BUT there are other BETTER #2 seeds than Oregon. Fact.
 

She Mate Me

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AGAIN, They have ALREADY played and McCowan had 35 points on 15 of 18 shooting (83%) AND she only had 3 fouls. Oregon does NOT have an ansere to 6-7 in the post. Please, please triple team her .. means we will have two players completely UNGUARDED. MSU ONLY committed 7 TOTAL fouls last time we played.

ANYTHING can happen .. BUT there are other BETTER #2 seeds than Oregon. Fact.

There's going to be one 2 seed that's clearly better than Oregon on paper, either Baylor or ND. After that it's not clear who the best 2 seed is, but it is clear it will be decided on the court, unless this happens...

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jdbulldog

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Sorry, when you used the word 'HOWEVER,' you "professed to know MORE than Vic about our basketball team."

That is quite a conclusion after I said "however". Almost sounds like an attorney who tries to put words in someone's mouth when taking their deposition..... Look up the definition of "however" and memorize it.
 
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