Van Jones went full retard last night

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Unbelievable the take this man had. This **** he was spewing was basically cause by the hyperbolic liberal fear mongering and he decided to double down on it.

 

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Unbelievable the take this man had. This **** he was spewing was basically cause by the hyperbolic liberal fear mongering and he decided to double down on it.


Did listen to it...don't have to. What these fvcktards don't understand is that the same areas that voted Obama into office TWICE are the same areas that put Trump in the WH. HRC was a terrible candidate and they had to rig their system to get her as the candidate. So all of these SJW Snowflakes ought to look in the mirror if they want to see the reason HRC lost.
 
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Unbelievable the take this man had. This **** he was spewing was basically cause by the hyperbolic liberal fear mongering and he decided to double down on it.


Walk a mile in his shoes. I'm friends with Gary Stills on FB. He said basically the same as Jones.
 
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Did listen to it...don't have to. What these fvcktards don't understand is that the same areas that voted Obama into office TWICE are the same areas that put Trump in the WH. HRC was a terrible candidate and they had to rig their system to get her as the candidate. So all of these SJW Snowflakes ought to look in the mirror if they want to see the reason HRC lost.
I agree with a lot of what you just said but rigged? She got millions more votes than Bernie. Give that a rest.
 

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If he had gotten more votes than HRC, he would have. HRC got 3.8 million more votes than BS. That is a fact. Look it up. You guys and your "rigged" system. Silly.

Between Super Delegates and the DNC actively working against him and doing all they can to support Hillary, it was going to be her nomination regardless.

People kept saying, "The GOP made the mistake in nominating Trump and they're going to pay for it." Well the SAME holds true for the Democrats. They put their eggs in the Clinton basket years ago when they clearly shouldn't have. And now they are paying for it.
 

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Between Super Delegates and the DNC actively working against him and doing all they can to support Hillary, it was going to be her nomination regardless.

People kept saying, "The GOP made the mistake in nominating Trump and they're going to pay for it." Well the SAME holds true for the Democrats. They put their eggs in the Clinton basket years ago when they clearly shouldn't have. And now they are paying for it.
I think the GOP should have narrowed the field a little and let it drag on at that size way too long...but ****, the Dems should have been able to come up with more than 3 candidates.
 

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I think the GOP should have narrowed the field a little and let it drag on at that size way too long...but ****, the Dems should have been able to come up with more than 3 candidates.

It's the Clinton sense of entitlement. No way in hell someone was going to block her this time like Obama did. They had members of the DNC colluding with the press and the campaign to ensure she got the nomination, as well as the WH, and not one **** was given by the Democratic voters. It ultimately backfired on them.
 

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This is WHERE the OUTRAGE should be focused. The latest update from Chicago. Van Jones and OTHERS should address this.
November to Date
Shot & Killed: 28
Shot & Wounded: 128
Total Shot: 156
Total Homicides: 30

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 611
Shot & Wounded: 3228
Total Shot: 3839
Total Homicides: 682
 
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Unbelievable the take this man had. This **** he was spewing was basically cause by the hyperbolic liberal fear mongering and he decided to double down on it.



I watched that whole thing. I actually agreed with most of his take until the white-lash thing. This was simply the fact that HRC was not liked by America and no matter how much money was spent, it wasn't going to change the fact that she had little support outside the far left.
 

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Unbelievable the take this man had. This **** he was spewing was basically cause by the hyperbolic liberal fear mongering and he decided to double down on it.



For many racialists (see racism everywhere), they are blinded by this belief. We can't just be opposed to Hilary the liar. Or Hillary the felon. Or Hillary's policies. Or Hillary's leadership. We must be racist to vote against her.
 
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This is WHERE the OUTRAGE should be focused. The latest update from Chicago. Van Jones and OTHERS should address this.
November to Date
Shot & Killed:
28
Shot & Wounded: 128
Total Shot: 156

Total Homicides: 30

Year to Date
Shot & Killed:
611
Shot & Wounded: 3228
Total Shot: 3839
Total Homicides: 682

So a black person can and should only be outraged about murders in Chicago according to you?

That said, any white person in WV person ONLY can or should be outraged by the heroin deaths in the region as they far exceed the rate of gun deaths nationwide......
 
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For many racialists (see racism everywhere), they are blinded by this belief. We can't just be opposed to Hilary the liar. Or Hillary the felon. Or Hillary's policies. Or Hillary's leadership. We must be racist to vote against her.

I don't even like Hillary, nice try.
 
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It's the Clinton sense of entitlement. No way in hell someone was going to block her this time like Obama did. They had members of the DNC colluding with the press and the campaign to ensure she got the nomination, as well as the WH, and not one **** was given by the Democratic voters. It ultimately backfired on them.

The DNC nominated her. She didn't nominate herself.
 

WVPATX

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Walk a mile in his shoes. I'm friends with Gary Stills on FB. He said basically the same as Jones.

Well, my eldest daughter dates an African American and he has essentially the opposite opinion. He knows racists exist but he in no way felt this election was "whitewash." He felt that both were immensely disliked but one was disliked more than the other.

In fact, if you look at the rust belt states, Trump got a very large percentage of Obama voters. Van Jones is a racialists and see racism everywhere. Also, everyone needs to keep in mind that this was a change election. Hillary would have won if Obama were a Republican, imo.
 
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Well, my eldest daughter dates an African American and he has essentially the opposite opinion. He knows racists exist but he in no way felt this election was "whitewash." He felt that both were immensely disliked but one was disliked more than the other.

In fact, if you look at the rust belt states, Trump got a very large percentage of Obama voters. Van Jones is a racialists and see racism everywhere. Also, everyone needs to keep in mind that this was a change election. Hillary would have won if Obama were a Republican, imo.

I married into an African American family and I never heard anything about White Lash until Van brought it up. If that was the case, Obama would have lost in 2012
 
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No, but it's clear that the Clintonites control the DNC.

I believe the DNC's strategy was to push Clinton because she was the most prepared at the time in order to allow a few less seasoned dems to mature (Mark Warner for example). This has been the plan since 2008. If the Clintons controlled the process, she would have been the nominee in 08
 

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So a black person can and should only be outraged about murders in Chicago according to you?

That said, any white person in WV person ONLY can or should be outraged by the heroin deaths in the region as they far exceed the rate of gun deaths nationwide......
No...... WE ALL should be outraged about the slaughter that going on in our cities. I was only making the point that I have NEVER EVER seen Van Jones talk about the problem and that we should address it. I also have never heard Van Jones critize President Obama about the plight of African Americans in the 8 years Obama has been in office.......But he starts his racist rant the very night when Trump wins the election.
 

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I married into an African American family and I never heard anything about White Lash until Van brought it up. If that was the case, Obama would have lost in 2012

In rust belt states, the numbers are pretty staggering. Many, many people who voted for Obama also voted for Trump. In PA, OH, MI, WI and elsewhere.
 
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Thanks for proving my point.

So again, are you saying he can and should be outraged only over murders in Chicago and nothing else?

I agree with you that murders in Chicago should be high on his list of concerns (and for all of us) but for you to limit his concerns/outrage only to one topic is patronizing at best.
 
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No...... WE ALL should be outraged about the slaughter that going on in our cities. I was only making the point that I have NEVER EVER seen Van Jones talk about the problem and that we should address it. I also have never heard Van Jones critize President Obama about the plight of African Americans in the 8 years Obama has been in office.......But he stanorts his racist rant the very night when Trump wins the election.

All I can think is that is made for good TV. I thought he was on point for the first few minutes of his piece until he went all white-lash on the American voters who elected Trump. As I said above, if there was evidence of that, it would have occurred in 2012 and not 2016.

If and I mean if there was any white-lash it was due to Obama and Clinton embracing BLM. Anti-law enforcement is not a good stance to take in the US.
 
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bornaneer

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So again, are you saying he can and should be outraged only over murders in Chicago and nothing else?

I agree with you that murders in Chicago should be high on his list of concerns (and for all of us) but for you to limit his concerns/outrage only to one topic is patronizing at best.
Don't try to put words into the comment that I NEVER said. I only pointed out an issue that I am very passionate about. There are a lot of OTHER issues he can shine a light upon on his national show . I never "limited" anything.
 

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All I can think is that is made for good TV. I thought he was on point for the first few minutes of his piece until he went all white-lash on the American voters who elected Trump. As I said above, if there was evidence of that, it would have occurred in 2012 and not 2016.

If and I mean if there was any white-lash it was due to Obama and Clinton embracing BLM. Anti-law enforcement is good stance to take in the US.
Why are you arguing with me.....I agree with you.
 

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I'm not saying that I agree with all of it, but he does make a solid point about several things. Trump acted like a bully multiple times during the nomination and election cycle. He came into the first debate seemingly unprepared. If I had a child old enough to be watching the process with me, I could see her pointing those things out when I told her not to bully or to do her homework. The white-lash thing is where I break from Van, and that's fine. He's entitled to his perspective.

I watched his exchange with Lewandowski later in the program. Lewandowski was basically needling Van about why Hillary had not conceded the win to Trump yet - constant interruptions and such - and Van had a good response about that. First, the campaign had not conceded because they were waiting on a handful more states to be called - the count was 244 to 20x at that point I believe. Second, it was 2 AM, so a concession speech would wait until the morning. The last point was where I thought he made the best point though. He said that if someone goes into work the next day and had that same exchange with someone who supported the other candidate, that we would never heal a divide in this country.
 

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I'm not saying that I agree with all of it, but he does make a solid point about several things. Trump acted like a bully multiple times during the nomination and election cycle. He came into the first debate seemingly unprepared. If I had a child old enough to be watching the process with me, I could see her pointing those things out when I told her not to bully or to do her homework. The white-lash thing is where I break from Van, and that's fine. He's entitled to his perspective.

I watched his exchange with Lewandowski later in the program. Lewandowski was basically needling Van about why Hillary had not conceded the win to Trump yet - constant interruptions and such - and Van had a good response about that. First, the campaign had not conceded because they were waiting on a handful more states to be called - the count was 244 to 20x at that point I believe. Second, it was 2 AM, so a concession speech would wait until the morning. The last point was where I thought he made the best point though. He said that if someone goes into work the next day and had that same exchange with someone who supported the other candidate, that we would never heal a divide in this country.

Van Jones is a racialist. He sees racism everywhere. Look at the vote in PA, OH, MI, WI among other states at the sheer number of white people that voted for Obama and also Trump. Whitelash indeed. Sure some racists voted for Trump just as some racists voted for Hillary. But this election had very, very little to do with race and everything to do with economics and the rebellion against the establishment.
 
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Van Jones is a racialist. He sees racism everywhere. Look at the vote in PA, OH, MI, WI among other states at the sheer number of white people that voted for Obama and also Trump. Whitelash indeed. Sure some racists voted for Trump just as some racists voted for Hillary. But this election had very, very little to do with race and everything to do with economics and the rebellion against the establishment.

Don't leave out the sheer dislike of Hillary. That had to be 2-3% of the Trump vote.