USCe vs USCw

[BELdog]

Who makes the better coaching hire? I'm gonna go with USCw. I just don't think South Carolina is all that desirable of a job.

 

[patdog]

USCw is one of the most dysfunctional athletic departments on the planet. Never underestimate their potential to make a stupid hire. Remember, the guy who's going to make the next hire is the same guy who thought Sark was a good choice. Despite the fact the stories about his drinking problem were pretty well known and his record was mediocre at best.

 

[missouridawg]

USCw is one of the most dysfunctional athletic departments on the planet. Never underestimate their potential to make a stupid hire. Remember, the guy who's going to make the next hire is the same guy who thought Sark was a good choice. Despite the fact the stories about his drinking problem were pretty well known and his record was mediocre at best.

Haden also hired Lane Kiffin, right?

 

[patdog]

Mike Garrett hired Kiffen.

 

[BELdog]

This is true. I just think, from a potential HC's perspective, the Trojans play in an easier conference but still have the name recognition to put them in conversation for a play off at the beginning of every year. There's probably a bigger talent pool and even though there are several other big schools on that side of the country it's not like USCe who's fighting Florida, Georgia, Clemsom, FSU, Miami and UT for every decent recruit they get.

 

[esplanade91]

I think South Carolina goes all-in on Dantonio. He went there.

 

[ronpolk]

I think South Carolina goes all-in on Dantonio. He went there.

I didn't know he went there. If they get him that has to be considered a home run hire. He's a great coach.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

USCe is less of a mess by far. They have had a lot of stability and enough quality candidates might actually want the job. Dantonio might want out of Michigan State with a now resurgent UM.

 

[johnson86-1]

USCe is less of a mess by far. They have had a lot of stability and enough quality candidates might actually want the job. Dantonio might want out of Michigan State with a now resurgent UM.

USCe is much less of a mess, but it is also has a much lower ceiling. A guy like Dantonio with roots at USCe might choose it over USCw, but I would have to think that the vast majority of coaches would take their chances with USCw's dysfunction. And I'm not sure USCw is that much of a mess. They were staring down significant probation and were stuck going with Kiffen. Even on probation, he was able to keep the cupboard more or less stocked and when he left, Orgeron was able to win some games. Then they went and picked an alcoholic coach. The only real problem to me seems to be them making one unjustifiably bad hire. If Haden makes the next hire I guess you have to worry about a slow start causing Haden to lose his job, and then you have an AD with no tie to you and that might look forward to making his own hire.

 

[was21]

Michigan State probably easier to be successful in Big Ten than USCe. I don't know what he makes salary wise

 

[patdog]

No doubt. Other than about a 4-year period, South Carolina's history is pretty average. They've got a national power in their own state, plus have UGA, UT and UF in the East to compete with. The South Carolina job is somewhere between the 8th and 12th best job in the SEC, in a group with MSU, UM, Ark, & Mizzou. Michigan State is probably in the 3rd through 5th best job in the Big 10 range (along with Nebraska and Wisconsin).

 

[Strike.sixpack]

USCw got lucky with Pete Carroll and have been trying to recreate that since he left. Carroll was not that popular of a hire with everyone on the inside or with the pundits. Didn't really think he would recruit well. He proved them wrong but at the time many thought they had made an average hire of a recently fired NFL guy.

 

[coachnorm]

Strike is tuned in. USC has never, in their history, made a big hire. Some of USC successful coaches were simply promotions from assistant coach when the head coach leaves.