Updated list

[RutherfordBHayes]

I thought it might be a pretty good time to update the list of narratives from our friends up North.

-there is NO INVESTIGATION
-there IS an investigation in WOMEN'S BASKETBALL & TRACK
-there is NO football NOA
-there IS a NOA but only 3 minor football violations
-there are only 8 minor football violations
-there is NOTHING implicating the CURRENT STAFF
-the ONLY thing on current staff is Tunsil's step-dad (he'll rue the day)
-NOTHING implicates Hugh Freeze
-the investigation is OVER
-no coaches have hired outside counsel
-EXEMPLARY COOPERATION
-NO BOOSTERS have been disassociated
-The NCAA has COMMENDED Ole Miss on how professional we have been which will be taken into account.
-We are eager to release OUR SIDE of the story
-We SELF-REPORTED most of these violations
-Texas firing Chris Vaughn is ABSOLUTELY NOT related to Ole Miss
-Steve ROBERTSON has been CALLING Ole Miss RECRUITS and claiming to be NCAA enforcement (he'll rue the day)
-OléMiss will SUE STEVE (rue the day
-OPPORTUNITY FUND
-FBI INVESTIGATING whoever hacked Tunsil's phone (you'll rue the day)
-WITCH HUNT
-LARRY TEMPLETON is involved in all of this (he'll rue the day)
-The INVESTIGATION WAS OVER UNTIL DRAFT NIGHT
-Freeze told Finebaum that he would FIRE ANY COACH that was caught in impropriety
-Only NINE scholarships OVER THREE years' probation
-NCAA has accepted the self-imposed penalties, ELEVEN scholarships OVER THREE
-Steve Robertson has received a SUBPOENA in a defamation suit (rue the day)
-OléMiss has told the NCAA that they WON'T COOPERATE ANY MORE
-OléMiss is actually SUING THE NCAA for... excessive enforcement. (rue the day)
-There is NO SECOND NOA or addendum
-OléMiss has evidence that JEFFREY SIMMONS GOT PAID (rue the day)
-BARNEY IS INNOCENT and will be reinstated
-MSU IS BEING INVESTIGATED (rue)
-OléMiss has VIDEO TAPES of LEO LEWIS to match MSU's offer of $80k (he'll rue the day)
-Chuck Rounsaville has AUDIO TAPES OF LEO LEWIS asking to match MSU's offer of $80k
-LEO LEWIS SUSPENDED FOR EGG BOWL (6 tackles, 1 sack)
-John Farley is Rosebowl's "source" (he'll rue)
-Cam Akers will sign with OléMiss
-NCAA has accepted the SELF IMPOSED PENALTIES
-NO BOWL BAN. No chance.
-NO SECOND NOA, fact.
-ABSOLUTELY NO PAYING recruits.
-OléMiss media is about to release the LEO LEWIS TAPES... any minute now.
-NCAA is reviewing the LEO LEWIS TAPES.
-This whole thing is a CONSPIRACY by the NCAA, Sankey, Templeton, Byrne, Stricklin, Saban, Mullen, Cohen, Rosebowl, etc. BUT we have the goods (rue. the. day.)
-Freeze is absolutely NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!
-Leo Lewis SUSPENDED FROM THE SPRING GAME (my fav)
-Leo Lewis was inaccurate, so his TESTIMONY IS THROWN OUT (rue)
-MSU IS A REPEAT OFFENDER because Will Redmond (rue)
-Sankey and Templeton CONTROL THE PROCESS (rue)
-Rosebowl is a liar; a Black Bear COACH DID NOT MEET A RECRUIT WITH A BOOSTER after the 2nd NOA was delivered.
-Rosebowl's complaint to the ETHICS COMMISSION WILL BE TOSSED OUT.
-KOBE JONES CONFESSED to the NCAA that his testimony under immunity was false (rue)
-An MSU BOOSTER PAID LEO LEWIS, Dan Mullen forced him to lie (rue)
-LEO LEWIS INELIGIBLE FOR 2017 (rue)
-All of Rosebowl's posts and podcasts have been accumulated for an epic DEFAMATION CASE (rue)
-LEO AND KOBE RECANTED. (rue)
-All violations involving Leo & Kobe will be DISMISSED
-Leo Lewis has been ORDERED TO TESTIFY by the NCAA in the Rebel Rags thing
-The NCAA's case is UNRAVELING.
-NO coaches will be FIRED!
-The NCAA has required Leo Lewis to attend the Ole Miss COI hearing.
-Leo Lewis missed his required deadline to be cross examined by Ole Miss representation, so allegations surrounding him will be thrown out.
-Dan Mullen fired Scott Sallach because the NCAA IS ON THEM! (rue)
-There is NOTHING in Freeze' PHONE RECORDS, Rosebowl is nuts.
-NO WAY we get a SECOND YEAR BOWL BAN
-Recruits are ALL IN. No decommits.
-BJORK IS SAFE and has 100% school SUPPORT!
-SELF IMPOSED SANCTIONS!!
-NONE of our players will TRANSFER.
-NCAA VIOLATED THE RULES, most of the case will be thrown out
-Steve Robertson is in SO MUCH TROUBLE; we're about to RUIN him!!
-Good news is coming! MOAB!! BOOM!!
-All of these allegations are from the Enforcement Staff; the COMMITTEE on Infractions will SEE THROUGH THE LIES!
-The tapes?
-You'll all rue the day... RUE!!!

 

[horshack.sixpack]

How long does the bargaining process typically take? They may set a record. The same ones that were confidently spouting that there was nothing to it are now taking solace in stating that they will likely ONLY get USC level sanctions and no death penalty. Seriously. They've now worked their way down to being OK if it's just somewhere between above USC but below the death penalty.

You also have to wonder if the NCAA has EVER seen anyone continue to blatantly cheat while they were on campus investigating blatant cheating? Maybe that's how everyone behaves, but I'd be surprised if so...

All that plus likely a third NOA regarding whatever they uncover on the escort deal. They better hope Oxford is an awesome place to hang around because I can't think of any reason that I, as an investigator, would appreciate having to deal with an offender for 5+ years and no end in sight. Maybe the NCAA really loves Faulkner, Ajax, The Library and the Grove (the NCAA, like these recruits, have likely never seen oak trees before either)!

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Ever dated an unaccountable woman? There you have the Ole Miss fanbase.

Logic need not apply.

 

[patdog]

Pretty soon, you're going to have written your own book.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Nice work & thanks for the update Mr. President! This thread needs to be permanently moved to the top of the board.

 

[bulldognation]

Funny you put "The tape?" in there.... I forgot they claimed to have a tape of Leo/Leo's mom asking for OM to match MSU money. They have stood by this 'tape' for a while now... with the usual OM mouthpieces claiming it's real, they've heard it and it was delivered to the NCAA. But I find no mention of said tape in any of these new documents. Hmmmm?
Not only is there no mention of the phantom tape, but there IS mention of snapchat video showing free merchandise obtained from RR. Weren't they clamoring about how Leo was lying because he was given all this merch and then couldn't produce any of it?

From the sounds of the NCAA response, the whole arrangement was routine: OM Football Recruiter calls/texts Warren to let him know a blue chip was in town and they were being sent over to RR. Warren or a store rep meets them at the store and recruit gets a $400 line of 'credit' to go shopping.

Multiple texts/calls exchanged between football staff and Warren during recruiting visits that back up the statements made by recruits of this activity. Recruits told specifically to go to Rebel Rags... not campus bookstore or any other gear provider to get their merch.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

The tapes! They're just waiting on the perfect timing to drop the BOMB!!! Any minute now.

Don't forget, they have the best lawyers in THE WORLD!! It's like Perry Mason, Johnny Cochran, Abe Lincoln, William Jennings Bryan, and Mitch McDeere all rolled into one team. We're gonna RUE the day... someday.

 

[Drebin]

Funny you put "The tape?" in there.... I forgot they claimed to have a tape of Leo/Leo's mom asking for OM to match MSU money. They have stood by this 'tape' for a while now... with the usual OM mouthpieces claiming it's real, they've heard it and it was delivered to the NCAA. But I find no mention of said tape in any of these new documents. Hmmmm?
Not only is there no mention of the phantom tape, but there IS mention of snapchat video showing free merchandise obtained from RR. Weren't they clamoring about how Leo was lying because he was given all this merch and then couldn't produce any of it?

From the sounds of the NCAA response, the whole arrangement was routine: OM Football Recruiter calls/texts Warren to let him know a blue chip was in town and they were being sent over to RR. Warren or a store rep meets them at the store and recruit gets a $400 line of 'credit' to go shopping.

Multiple texts/calls exchanged between football staff and Warren during recruiting visits that back up the statements made by recruits of this activity. Recruits told specifically to go to Rebel Rags... not campus bookstore or any other gear provider to get their merch.

I find it funny as hell that Ole Miss has been pushing this "Leo on tape" narrative, but in the end, Leo had a video of all the gear he got from RR (along with a business card with "Emily's" contact info) and provided it to the NCAA.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

Agree. Turns out a tape DOES exist. What's amazing is that you'd think they'd just stfu and wait until it's over given the amount of times they've been ... not only wrong, but disasterously wrong. But after each painful revelation is made, it's as if they huddle up again... get their morning flash briefing ... and hit the day with a new narritive. That makes the rounds until that's shot down.

I know if state was in their shoes we'd have fans pissed because we feel on our sword and put it all out there for the world to see. But if they'd have done that... this would indeed be old news by now.

Incredible to watch.

 

[OutaStatePlates]

Here's a brief summary of your detailed list:

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

They are appear to be transitioning from stage THREE to FOUR.

 

[bulldognation]

You realize the next few stages after they get their hammering from the COI will be to devote what's left of their crummy resources to bringing the NCAA down on MSU. They'll still shout that Leo was still paid by an 'institution not named Ole Miss' and ultimately signed with MSU and relentlessly hound the NCAA and anyone else that it was all because of a rivalry. They claim we are only interested in taking them down instead of improving our own program. Yeah, well maybe they shoulda been more interested in not cheating their asses off, lying to investigators, falsifying or failing to report recruiting activity to compliance and summarily giving the NCAA the middle finger. But hey, I get it... I wish we could have just talked about the kids too.

Get ready for toxic obsession fellas. What sucks for them is their credibility is near zero right now and their cult media is right there in the same sinking boat. But I'm betting they'll beat that "MSU Cheats too!" drum as soon and as often as possible after they get theirs.

 

[512taylor]

I know this is sort of unrelated, but us oldtimers will never forget how years ago, they had supposedly placed baseball team members on swimming scholarships. The fact they did not have swim team was merely a coincidence.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

Here's a brief summary of your detailed list:

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

They are appear to be transitioning from stage THREE to FOUR.

The insane thing about this bunch of clowns is that they progress through the stages all the way to stage 4, then abruptly about face, and go back to step 1 or 2. Never seen anything like it.
Come on, Bears. It's over. Accept your fate. Self-imposed penalties was never a realistic option. There's more of a chance you get a 3 year bowl ban than 1. A 2 year ban is a certainty.

 

[MrHooch]

You realize the next few stages after they get their hammering from the COI will be to devote what's left of their crummy resources to bringing the NCAA down on MSU. They'll still shout that Leo was still paid by an 'institution not named Ole Miss' and ultimately signed with MSU and relentlessly hound the NCAA and anyone else that it was all because of a rivalry. They claim we are only interested in taking them down instead of improving our own program. Yeah, well maybe they shoulda been more interested in not cheating their asses off, lying to investigators, falsifying or failing to report recruiting activity to compliance and summarily giving the NCAA the middle finger. But hey, I get it... I wish we could have just talked about the kids too.

Get ready for toxic obsession fellas. What sucks for them is their credibility is near zero right now and their cult media is right there in the same sinking boat. But I'm betting they'll beat that "MSU Cheats too!" drum as soon and as often as possible after they get theirs.

But we still won't be their "real" rival... and that's fine, they definitely won't be a worthy rival for several years at this rate.

 

[Junction John]

It's like Hill Street Blues

it's as if they huddle up again... get their morning flash briefing ... and hit the day with a new narritive.

"Let's be careless out there..."