Updated B1G 10 Coaching Salaries

[Colbert17!]

Mel Tucker???? Really????

Some Mel Tucker facts :

Total number of seasons as a FBS head coach: 3.5
Total number of winning seasons : 1. Yes I said ONE!!!!
Total number of games as a FBS head coach : 38
Overall record : 20-18 ( 15-11 at MSU)
Total # of bowl games: 1
Current record : 2-4 with games remaining with Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn St. (outside shot at bowl)

For this you get $9.5 million!!!!??? What has Mel Tucker accomplished to be the highest paid coach in the B1G 10?

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...st-paid-big-ten-head-coaches-report-says.html

 

[brgRC90]

Coach salaries are utterly out of control

 

[NickRU714]

But but....NIL is putting Rutgers behind.
NIL money is ruining college athletics and making it an unfair landscape.

Lack of NIL opportunities isn't making Rutgers last on that list.

If all schools (except Rutgers for now) are receiving similar conferencerevenue, how can some schools afford such high salaries?

What's that? Donor money? But I thought outside money was a problem?
Where are the threads calling for salary caps on staff spending?

 

[Colbert17!]

But but....NIL is putting Rutgers behind.
NIL money is ruining college athletics and making it an unfair landscape.

Lack of NIL opportunities isn't making Rutgers last on that list.

If all schools (except Rutgers for now) are receiving similar conferencerevenue, how can some schools afford such high salaries?

What's that? Donor money? But I thought outside money was a problem?
Where are the threads calling for salary caps on staff spending?

Two sides of the same coin. The amount of money spent on salaries is ridiculous.
As from USA Today in 2020, in 40 out of 50 states the highest paid public employee is either the head football or head basketball coach. Nine out of the other ten states do not have an FBS program.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

I’ve said this in another thread but it’s time to cap schools spending on college athletics.

it needs to be done to
1. Stop the bloating and arms race which essentially line other peoples pockets (coaches, construction companies etc)
2. Create a somewhat competitive and even landscape
3. With all this money flowing in, it’s time the schools actually benefit from this (nearly all except the top 20 are running at break even or a loss)

caps need to be on
- Coaches salaries
- Facilities spending
- Recruiting budgets
Etc

You can make the caps high and plentiful but we can’t keep letting this train run out of control towards an endless destination. And much of these schools are state schools

 

[brgRC90]

Two sides of the same coin. The amount of money spent on salaries is ridiculous.
As from USA Today in 2020, in 40 out of 50 states the highest paid public employee is either the head football or head basketball coach. Nine out of the other ten states do not have an FBS program.

These are non-profit organizations. How can anyone justify salaries up to $10 million per year at non-profit organizations?

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Tucker…lol. MSU will be regretting that one big time, if they aren’t already.

 

[Plum Street]

I’ve said this in another thread but it’s time to cap schools spending on college athletics.

it needs to be done to
1. Stop the bloating and arms race which essentially line other peoples pockets (coaches, construction companies etc)
2. Create a somewhat competitive and even landscape
3. With all this money flowing in, it’s time the schools actually benefit from this (nearly all except the top 20 are running at break even or a loss)

caps need to be on
- Coaches salaries
- Facilities spending
- Recruiting budgets
Etc

You can make the caps high and plentiful but we can’t keep letting this train run out of control towards an endless destination. And much of these schools are state schools

Never will happen

 

[NickRU714]

Tucker…lol. MSU will be regretting that one big time, if they aren’t already.

Will they though?
Won't they just get donor money to cover the buy-out if things get bad enough?

Nebraska didn't even have to wait an extra 3 weeks to save approx $8m or something like that.
NIL is the least of our concerns in competing.
Being able to just move on from a bad coach is much more an uneven field.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

NIL is poison.

So are the inflated salaries and spending.

Not sure why @NickRU714 wants to suggest this is an either-or choice revealing hypocrisy.

 

[batts]

I suspect that big time donors are at least partially underwriting the salaries of a lot of the Power 5 Coaches. A good deal of the big time donors of Michigan, PSU, Auburn, OSU, Georgia, Bama, etc are mult-generations of alum. We are competing against 50 plus years of big time football and their boosters who apparently have accumulated a hell of amount of money over the years. .

Another problem that I have read on the SHU message Board is that NIL donations to SHU and RU must be evenly spread among all of the School's athletic programs because of Title IX. This makes no sense to me.

 

[NickRU714]

NIL is poison.

So are the inflated salaries and spending.

Not sure why @NickRU714 wants to suggest this is an either-or choice revealing hypocrisy.

I've just never seen thread after thread talking about the uneven playing field from direct to AD donations and calling for "salary caps" on donations or AD spending.

Let OSU only spend media revenue (same as everyone else in the BIG) and we'll catch up a lot faster than banning NIL or NIL salary caps.

 

[BLewis1968]

These are non-profit organizations. How can anyone justify salaries up to $10 million per year at non-profit organizations?

It happens.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I've just never seen thread after thread talking about the uneven playing field from direct to AD donations and calling for "salary caps" on donations or AD spending.

Let OSU only spend media revenue (same as everyone else in the BIG) and we'll catch up a lot faster than banning NIL or NIL salary caps.

In time you won't see "thread after thread" about NIL either. Spending on coaches' salaries has been high for a long time. You do see a thread every now and then when some coach gets a new contract. In fact, isn't THIS THREAD about coaches' salaries? You just chose to use this thread to talk about your take on NIL.

 

[RU-Kidding]

Will they though?
Won't they just get donor money to cover the buy-out if things get bad enough?

Nebraska didn't even have to wait an extra 3 weeks to save approx $8m or something like that.
NIL is the least of our concerns in competing.
Being able to just move on from a bad coach is much more an uneven field.

Tucker's contract is privately funded and will be the topic of discussion in a court hearing later this month pursuant to a freedom of info act request from their local media. A key question will be does a State funded university have to release details on a privately funded contract? The media has been unsuccessful to date in its' attempt to get that info.

 

[Rufaninga]

It's not just HC/ Assist. Salaries a program is up against. It's facilities, NIL, & recruiting budgets too.

Ranking college football programs in recruiting spending

Here's what public Power 5 conference programs told the NCAA they spent on football recruiting during the 2019 fiscal year.

www.on3.com

 

[brgRC90]

It happens.

You want to get rich as a coach go to the NFL.

 

[MADHAT1]

recruit spending Rutgers at #21 doesn't seem like RU's getting a bang for the bucks.
Cost of living might be a factor and the buck worth less than a few ranked a little lower.

As for Schiano being lowest paid, he negotiated his deal, knew what others made (my opinion)
and received a longer contract then the usual 5 year..
If he turns RU FB into a good program you know he'll be rewarded by Rutgers , or at least have higher paying offers from other programs if he feels slighted by what Rutgers offers.

I believe Greg wants to be here and will turn the program around making recruiting a strong point in RU's rise to respectability.
But right now recruiting is not a strong point and needs some improvement as Greg has to make his roster into overachievers, because a lot of talent isn't there, in order to be competitive
As for pay once Schiano proves he was the best choice, extension will take care of being the lowest , but since Greg seems to want to be at RU for his whole coaching career , he won't force an outragious salary package by taking big bucks but at a hometown discount .
But I expect pay will be higher than some fans approve of.
Hell some thought what he accepted when hired was too much and might still think so

 

[RUBlackout7]

NIL is poison.

So are the inflated salaries and spending.

Not sure why @NickRU714 wants to suggest this is an either-or choice revealing hypocrisy.

Because there is a ton of hypocrisy. When coaching salaries come up it’s always rah rah we aren’t paying enough. When NIL is the topic, its boycott NIL….no donations…etc.

Hilarious so see the difference.

My guess is that the people who cry the loudest don’t donate to begin with, they just like to complain.

 

[nukem]

I suspect that big time donors are at least partially underwriting the salaries of a lot of the Power 5 Coaches. A good deal of the big time donors of Michigan, PSU, Auburn, OSU, Georgia, Bama, etc are mult-generations of alum. We are competing against 50 plus years of big time football and their boosters who apparently have accumulated a hell of amount of money over the years. .

Another problem that I have read on the SHU message Board is that NIL donations to SHU and RU must be evenly spread among all of the School's athletic programs because of Title IX. This makes no sense to me.

How can Title IX have any say on outside entities who are paying for NIL? That doesn't make any sense to me. This isn't the school directing the money.

 

[NickRU714]

How can Title IX have any say on outside entities who are paying for NIL? That doesn't make any sense to me. This isn't the school directing the money.

He referenced the SHU message board.
Not surprising SHU alumni would be very uninformed on basic matters.

 

[brgRC90]

Because there is a ton of hypocrisy. When coaching salaries come up it’s always rah rah we aren’t paying enough. When NIL is the topic, its boycott NIL….no donations…etc

I've seen people on here write in regards to players that if they want to get rich they should go to the NFL. Why don't they say the same to the coaches?

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Because there is a ton of hypocrisy. When coaching salaries come up it’s always rah rah we aren’t paying enough. When NIL is the topic, its boycott NIL….no donations…etc.

Hilarious so see the difference.

My guess is that the people who cry the loudest don’t donate to begin with, they just like to complain.

What you are missing is that it is largely the SAME pro-NIL people who say we aren't paying enough in coaches' salaries, facilities, blah blah blah. There is not enough of other people's money for them to spend on building a "winner" so they can brag about backing a "winner".

The people who are against the NIL are largely also against profligate spending elsewhere. The difference is spending on coaches has been a thing for a long time now. And when, if ever, NIL spending is an accepted pain the butt.. those people won't feel a need to talk about it.. until some ridiculous stuff happens.. like a million-dollar deal to transfer hurts us.. etc.

You, and others, so want to call people hypocrites in order to support your opinion of being pro-NIL.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

How can Title IX have any say on outside entities who are paying for NIL? That doesn't make any sense to me. This isn't the school directing the money.

I think there could be an attack on NIL along those lines. That the institutions have to make up the difference because they know there is a disparity from boosters. Then again, that puts two SCOTUS rulings in conflict.. teh NIL ruling and Title IX law.

Hmmm.. then again.. there is always more donations earmarked for football and basketball.. and there is nothing forcing schools to spend the same rate in all sports... just schollies. Yeah.. I am swayed to your point.

 

[nukem]

I think there could be an attack on NIL along those lines. That the institutions have to make up the difference because they know there is a disparity from boosters. Then again, that puts two SCOTUS rulings in conflict.. teh NIL ruling and Title IX law.

Hmmm.. then again.. there is always more donations earmarked for football and basketball.. and there is nothing forcing schools to spend the same rate in all sports... just schollies. Yeah.. I am swayed to your point.

Well that's the thing. This isn't a donation. This isn't the school shelling out the money. I didn't give my money to the school. I gave it to some outside company. This is an outside entity paying for an athlete's name image likeness to promote something. We all know that's a sham but it is what it is.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Well that's the thing. This isn't a donation. This isn't the school shelling out the money. I didn't give my money to the school. I gave it to some outside company. This is an outside entity paying for an athlete's name image likeness to promote something. We all know that's a sham but it is what it is.

Well.. you got the whole "booster" angle. Schools have been penalized because of booster spending / actions. NIL is a legal work-around to that.. but that doesn't mean it won't face challenges. The IDEA of NIL passed SCOTUS's tests... but actual NIL put in practice?.. We shall see. I don't know who will challenge it.... the moneied schools want it and have a lot of power.. as do the media that follows/supports those schools. The NCAA seems okay with it.. they surrendered rather quickly on the whole issue instead of finding a work-around. I honestly don't know who would challenge it.. some politician wanting to be seen as supporting Title IX?

 

[RUBlackout7]

What you are missing is that it is largely the SAME pro-NIL people who say we aren't paying enough in coaches' salaries, facilities, blah blah blah. There is not enough of other people's money for them to spend on building a "winner" so they can brag about backing a "winner".

The people who are against the NIL are largely also against profligate spending elsewhere. The difference is spending on coaches has been a thing for a long time now. And when, if ever, NIL spending is an accepted pain the butt.. those people won't feel a need to talk about it.. until some ridiculous stuff happens.. like a million-dollar deal to transfer hurts us.. etc.

You, and others, so want to call people hypocrites in order to support your opinion of being pro-NIL.

You completely made that up. Most people who have signed up for NIL were existing donors, myself included. The people I know who contribute to NIL have simply directed existing donation amounts towards NIL. No net increase in donations. So check yourself about people trying to spend other peoples money.

Many pro NIL people are also anti unlimited coach spending, no idea what you’re talking about. And yes, being ok with donating for ridiculous coach salaries, but not for players is indeed very hypocritical.

 

[RUTrack94]

Well … if you are tied for 12th in $$$ then in theory you should be towards the bottom in the standings

 

[Plum Street]

Well … if you are tied for 12th in $$$ then in theory you should be towards the bottom in the standings

We are always near or at the bottom.

 

[RUGuitarMan1]

What you are missing is that it is largely the SAME pro-NIL people who say we aren't paying enough in coaches' salaries, facilities, blah blah blah. There is not enough of other people's money for them to spend on building a "winner" so they can brag about backing a "winner".

The people who are against the NIL are largely also against profligate spending elsewhere. The difference is spending on coaches has been a thing for a long time now. And when, if ever, NIL spending is an accepted pain the butt.. those people won't feel a need to talk about it.. until some ridiculous stuff happens.. like a million-dollar deal to transfer hurts us.. etc.

You, and others, so want to call people hypocrites in order to support your opinion of being pro-NIL.

I would say that is not accurate, people who are in favor of NIL have been arguing for a long time that head coaches are way overpaid and those who are creating the value in the sport are not properly compensated. I would say that is true. The problem is that when NIL was put in place, there were no guidelines set up. That’s a big problem, because top end schools can offer much more financially which will make the playing field even more unequal. The answer is to have a strong, central governing authority which provides the rules and limits the haves from using their resources to subjugate the have nots. The reason the NFL is so successful is that there is a clear, central power that makes rules that help keep the playing field as equal as it can be.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

You completely made that up. Most people who have signed up for NIL were existing donors, myself included. The people I know who contribute to NIL have simply directed existing donation amounts towards NIL. No net increase in donations. So check yourself about people trying to spend other peoples money.

Many pro NIL people are also anti unlimited coach spending, no idea what you’re talking about. And yes, being ok with donating for ridiculous coach salaries, but not for players is indeed very hypocritical.

People here... the pro-NIL people.. often say we need more money from donors... that no one should complain about performance if they don't write bigger checks. We have pro-NIL people saying we need to get Elon Musk... That Home Depot's Bernie Marcus should write a big check... there is a whole lot of people who want us to spend more on coaches and talent and they say so here regularly. Stop pretending that this is not what happens on this board.. and that you and your associates' donations to NIL represent everyone who are pro-NIL and pro-spending.

And understand this while you are at it.. I bet there are anti-NIL people.. people who think it is a very bad idea that will ruin college football.. who also donate to it because.. what are you going to do?

 

[iReC89]

Fleck?…ouch

 

[yessir321]

I’ve said this in another thread but it’s time to cap schools spending on college athletics.

it needs to be done to
1. Stop the bloating and arms race which essentially line other peoples pockets (coaches, construction companies etc)
2. Create a somewhat competitive and even landscape
3. With all this money flowing in, it’s time the schools actually benefit from this (nearly all except the top 20 are running at break even or a loss)

caps need to be on
- Coaches salaries
- Facilities spending
- Recruiting budgets
Etc

You can make the caps high and plentiful but we can’t keep letting this train run out of control towards an endless destination. And much of these schools are state schools

That will never happen. As long as universities are considered ‘non profit’ you will have blue blood programs with donors lining the programs’s pockets. You are never going to get the big players to agree to this. the NCAA gets their highest ratings/paychecks from these programs as well. Reality is this is simply the cost of competing in this league. They’ve had some success over the last 10 years but I would hardly consider Michigan state a ‘blue blood’ program as well.

 

[jsol_05]

I’ve said this in another thread but it’s time to cap schools spending on college athletics.

it needs to be done to
1. Stop the bloating and arms race which essentially line other peoples pockets (coaches, construction companies etc)
2. Create a somewhat competitive and even landscape
3. With all this money flowing in, it’s time the schools actually benefit from this (nearly all except the top 20 are running at break even or a loss)

caps need to be on
- Coaches salaries
- Facilities spending
- Recruiting budgets
Etc

You can make the caps high and plentiful but we can’t keep letting this train run out of control towards an endless destination. And much of these schools are state schools

Won’t happen, if that are willing to pay, free enterprise.

 

[Kbee3]

Fleck?…ouch

A million more than GS.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Because there is a ton of hypocrisy. When coaching salaries come up it’s always rah rah we aren’t paying enough. When NIL is the topic, its boycott NIL….no donations…etc.

Hilarious so see the difference.

My guess is that the people who cry the loudest don’t donate to begin with, they just like to complain.

10000%

 

[Shelby65]

The sun always rises in the east. The die has been cast decades ago.

Outcomes aren’t outright rigged but they may as well be. We can’t compete. Big time Football is a waste of university and booster money.

Why not pay a hc $1m a year ? What’s the real difference between finishing 5 thru 7 in the division ? Are crap bowls before Xmas really worth striving for ? Anything more than that is an expensive, silly fantasy.

Spend on basketball instead.