UNC has 7 titles?

[IUfanBorden]

Not sure why some have issues with "Helms Titles". It was a form of crowning the best team, before the NIT,and the NCAA. If we got technical, we could depreciate NCAA titles won when the NIT was considered the more premier tournament...

 

[JPScott]

UK officially "claims" 2 Helms titles, 1933 and 1954, but we don't publicly recognize them for some dumb reason.

https://ukathletics.com/sports/2015/9/29/_131461809631737984.aspx

FWIW, I don't have an issue with recognizing Helms titles. But I don't believe in doing what UNC primarily does which is to mislead unsuspecting media members into stating it was a national championship. It wasn't.

Fact is you and me could decide to name who we thought were the best team from the past 120 years and that would be just as valid as Helms titles.

For anyone interested, a number of years ago I wrote an article which goes into great detail about the Helms and how it came about and what it represents.

Helms Titles: What they are and what they aren't

 

[JPScott]

Not sure why some have issues with "Helms Titles". It was a form of crowning the best team, before the NIT,and the NCAA. If we got technical, we could depreciate NCAA titles won when the NIT was considered the more premier tournament...

It was and it wasn't. Most of these Helms selections were made retroactively, and the ones that weren't were for times when the NCAA tournament was already established.

As far as the NIT ever being the 'premier' tourament, that's really not true. It was indeed very prestigious in the 1940's and arguably at the same level as the NCAA but it was never considered the best in general. Some schools may have preferred it because of the payday and because it guaranteed a trip to New York City.

 

[ACTSEAN]

Not sure why some have issues with "Helms Titles". It was a form of crowning the best team, before the NIT,and the NCAA. If we got technical, we could depreciate NCAA titles won when the NIT was considered the more premier tournament...

That I s what I have thought for a long time

 

[UKRuppster]

Are they counting Helms titles like Kansas or do they count defeating the NCAA Infraction Committee as a title too?

Both. It's why you see see banners from the 1920s and the banners from the 2000 and 2010s.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

Where they get their diplomas.

Actually it was a cereal box.