UK Cheerleading Cleaning House
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I understand the newsworthiness of it. It has all the sensational, titillating details that gets clicks. I suppose if the hotdog vendors got into trouble we would be talking about them....
Totally same as the hot dog vendor
They certainly are entertaining....like Sigfried and Roy or the guys at the circus who ride motorcycles around inside a ball shaped metal cage. Certainly it requires athleticism and coordination but so do the Mexican roofers roofing the house next to mine. I certainly would not do that.
You forgot the most latest update to where he had a guy he just met die in his garage. B/c that's normal.....
He should try the sport of Gymnastics. Could get a gold medal for it in the Olympics where the other sports go.
Cheerleading does not fall under NCAA. It is not considered an intercollegiate sport. Would be considered a club activity or similar . Not sure who actually funds it but camps have always provided summer jobs for cheer leaders. Doubt anything is going on that has not gone on for years. Sounds like some disgruntled cheerleader or more likely their parent filed a complaint about alcohol and hazing.
That would depend on if they were the 20 time world champion hotdog venders I guess.
That is your take? There are other actual sports that are not Olympic sports.
Cheer leading is not a sport. Gymnastics is. That is why gymnasts are in the Olympics.
If Cheer leaders want to join a sport where there talents could be put to use...gymnastics would be the closest sport. I am guessing that many of them do have a history of gymnastics. And so you dont think I am just picking on the rah rahs.... The Dance team is not a sport either although it is much more entertaining than Cheer. And the females are REAL females and not just a miniaturized version of an actual female.
Well, in fairness, that alone does not make it a sport. Ballroom dancers and ballet dancers are also extremely athletic, but what they do isn't considered sports.
Fwiw, Lecter is correct that cheerleading is not a collegiate sport. Those titles they win are sponsored by a cheerleading organization, not the NCAA, and thus are legally akin to dance contests.
But I do believe this thread belongs on this board. UK cheerleaders are closely enough connected to UK hoops, and this story of such interest to UK basketball fans, to easily make it worthy of a thread here.
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You missed the part that says “were deemed to be "without merit" after they were not corroborated in interviews with team members.” Did you even read the article?
Have you ever watched Joey Chestnut or Kobayashi? That takes athleticism too.
They are not vendors....quit moving the target. Next you will be comparing the guy who works at the hotdog plant to a coach game planning for the Superbowl.
See those allegations would be severely troubling. But they were found to be “without merit” or untrue.
The biggest thing that happened here is probably the underage drinking, which is technically a crime. And what pushes it over the top is it happened in the presence of the coaches. Can’t do that. If you know or see it happening, you have to address it.
College kids will be college kids for sure, but if you see it happening, you have to at least try to do your job as the adult in the room, so to speak. If it occurs when you eventually go to sleep or they sneak out and do such things while you’re dealing with something else- well, you’d still probably get the axe nowadays.
This never happened in the groups I was in in college, but the drinking was always there. Peer pressure was always there, and luckily the guys I hung around with were pretty cool about not forcing you do something you really didn’t want to do, but they did their fair share of “stupid” things.
The COI though? Yeah. That’s a big no no. That’ll get you fired from just about any job in the country.
Bottom line is this, you can’t be in a position of responsibility and knowingly let that stuff go on.
Is it somewhat of an overreaction? Probably. But in the current times, optics are everything.
I'm surprised it wasn't common knowledge w/ the lake's boating community...especially if it was an annual deal. Seems like naked cheerleader hijinks would be something that would be noticed by others on the lake. I would've been scheduling my vacation around it...
This will probably be heavily criticized, but in my humble opinion, anything that is judged isn't really a sport. Things that can be definitively determined, such as who crosses the finish line first, who jumps the highest, who jumps the furthest, who scores the most points, etc., are sports. If you have to have a panel judging a competition, then it is not sport. Judging is subjective, even with specific guidelines for judges to score competitions. I've never thought that anything that requires judging should be called sport. That's not to say that the people who participate in those competitions aren't extremely athletic. But being athletic does not equate to being a sport in my opinion.
A bunch of college kids drinking beer and getting naked? Sounds like the pretty typical college experience.
Cheerleading isn’t governed by the NCAA, but who’s to say that’d stop the NCAA?
I’m not an expert on the case, but looks like the coaches were present for some of what went on. In that case, I think dismissal is the appropriate action.
You can't say college kids being college kids when is was a school sponsored event and the coaching staff was there and did nothing. Now if the kids had done this on their own without school knowledge that would have been different.
Yep. This. It's kinda baffling to me how some here seem to have trouble grasping this distinction.
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Lol, they were off-campus events, some school sponsored, some not. The alcohol was admittedly snuck in by the players and former alumni, who provided the boats for the Lake Cumberland retreat. The students even admitted they were told by the coaching staff not to consume alcohol while on these events. They are all adults and responsible for their choices, not the coaches. If anything the student-athletes need to be reprimanded for breaking the rules.
Do you know how many students sneak booz and drugs into dorms and use them? Should we fire the administration staff over it?
This isn’t anything special........When I was working this is how I exited the office every Friday afternoon....
I agree with you in principle, but even sports like basketball and football are judged by referees.
III. SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM
The University of Kentucky has a scholarship program for members of its Blue cheerleading squad. Several different scholarships are offered; these scholarships are based on different eligibility requirements.
The Blue squad usually consists of twenty-one members; these members are the squad members who are selected at the spring tryout process, four to eight additional members who are selected by the Coach and Advisor, the Wildcat mascot and, on some occasions, a "Mike-man". Sixteen members receive a scholarship, which is equivalent to the amount of in-state tuition. This amount does not include any special fees, e.g., health fee, activities fee, etc. The funds for these scholarships come from funds in the President's office. There are no tuition scholarships for members of the White squad.
The Mr. and Mrs. Ralph McCracken, Jr. Cheerleading Scholarship Endowment ($30, 000) was created in 1981. The accumulated interest on the trust endowment is used to award scholarships to cheerleaders (members of both the Blue and White squads) based solely on academic excellence. Under the endowment agreement, a three-person committee (usually the Cheerleader Advisor, a representative of the Dean of Students Office and the Blue squad Cheerleader Coach) decides an amount and number of scholarships each year. Generally, a scholarship of $200-300 is given to the male and female cheerleader with the highest grade point average; usually all other cheerleaders with a 3.0 grade point average receive $100 each.
The annual interest on a second endowment, the Bill Blount, Jr. Memorial Endowment (approximately $20,000), creates a scholarship which is awarded to the cheerleader who has the greatest financial need. The need is based on records in the Student Financial Aid Office.
Five or six scholarships in varying amounts between $1,000 and $1,500 each are also awarded to cheerleaders. These scholarships are form private funds (individual donors who designate their annual UK contribution to the cheerleading program). The scholarships are awarded by the advisor, upon advice and consideration of the coach, with consideration to recruitment needs financial needs, and payment of out-of-state tuition. In no case will cheerleading scholarships exceed the cost of tuition, room and board at the University of Kentucky.
https://ukathletics.com/news/2015/7/21/55ae9db8e4b05936b8461391_131468120810551995.aspx
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