UK 4-game Bahamas Stats

[akaukswoosh]

 

[akaukswoosh]

Gotta love Reeves 10-10 at the FT stripe and Wheeler 14-15.

 

[Shaudylo]

84% from the line

 

[BBUK_anon]

84% from the line

Technically 84.8% /85% but whose counting.

 

[Blueblood410]

Take away Wheeler/Oscar/Collins going 0-19, and the rest of the team shot 40-86 for 46.5% from three.

That's also with Fredrick only going 1-5, and you have to expect that not to be his numbers based off his shooting numbers at Iowa.

 

[Shaudylo]

Technically 84.8% /85% but whose counting.

You are correct

 

[Padsfs07]

Key for me is Wheeler's 24:6 AST:TO ratio. That's good to see. The 0-9 on threes isn't ideal. Nor is the 0-5 for Oscar. I was hoping he'd hit one just to get his confidence going.

 

[Paulyv94]

Reeves shot 52% from the three... Insane. He's a baller.

 

[catswin]

If we take away the walk in’s and Collins and Oscar shooting 3s, UK was 38-87 for 43.7 percent. I don’t think Collins and Oscar will be jacking up 3s against competitive teams. Close to 44percent is not too bad!!

 

[BigBlueDiehard_rivals]

Livingston was one point away from being the SEVENTH player to average double figure scoring on the trip ... wow!

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Obviously the stats are inflated due to the competition.

But other interesting notes:
- every scholarship player except Ware attempted 5+ 3's (so >1 per game)
- Toppin, Wallace, Reeves, Livingston, Fredrick & Theiro had more 3pt-FGA than FTA.
- 5'8 Wheeler blocked more shots than NPOY 6'9 Oscar
- All 10 except Fredrick (no Blk), Reeves (no F or Blk), and Ware (no Ast, TO or Blk) had at least 1 of every stat.
- All 10 except Ware had 6+ assists
- All 10 had 3+ Steals (and no we aren't going to average 14 Steals/gm, but even half that 7.0 would be the best under Cal since his first team in 2010)
- Theiro had the most diverse stats (per min) other than scoring (where he was 8th), 5th Reb, 4th Ast, 2nd Blk, 2nd Stl, 4th in 3pt%, 4th in fg%, so he will find a way to contribute
- Per Min played, Scoring went: Reeves, Toppin, Wheeler, Oscar, Collins, Wallace, Livingston, Theiro, Ware, Fredrick
- Rebounding went: Oscar, --huge gap--, Livingston, Collins, Toppin, Theiro, Wallace & Reeves, Ware, Fredrick, Wheeler.
- How did Oscar's rebounding compare to last season when he got 41% of our Rebounds, or 0.48/min. He got more rebounding help (only doubling Toppin, Collins & Livingston; whereas last year he got 3.5-5 times as many as anyone else), but he still pulled down this week 0.48/min at the same rate as last year.
- Reeves was most willing to shoot (but he had the hot hand), 1 FGA per 1.83min, and Livingston and Fredrick the least 1 FGA per 3.70min.

(Sorry for the length, can't help it. I analyze and interpret Stats for a living.)

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

If we take away the walk in’s and Collins and Oscar shooting 3s, UK was 38-87 for 43.7 percent. I don’t think Collins and Oscar will be jacking up 3s against competitive teams. Close to 44percent is not too bad!!

I think they will, but not a lot. They both attempted 1.25/gm. I think in "close" games it may be more like 0.50/gm for each of them. But I also don't think they will make 0%. It may be in the 20-25% range.
But we also won't have 4 guys making 50%+, and then Fredrick at only 20%.
But I'm feeling good about Toppin at 35-37%, Reeves at 37-40%, Wallace at 35-38%, and Livingston at 35-37%. Add those to Fredrick at 42%+ and that is a good 3pt shooting team, even with Wheeler going at 30% (just got to keep his attempts <2/gm) and Oscar and Collins below 30%.

 

[Padsfs07]

Hard to count Ware since he sat out one full game and basically sat out the 4th game.

 

[BassProCat]

Boy I’m glad we didn’t miss out on reeves…I remember that week or so stretch where reeves didn’t seem like a lock to UK anymore…kid is a microwave.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Boy I’m glad we didn’t miss out on reeves…I remember that week or so stretch where reeves didn’t seem like a lock to UK anymore…kid is a microwave.

And I remember during that time so many on this board swore up and down that any guy like him coming from a mid-major couldn't contribute at UK.

 

[revcort]

And I remember during that time so many on this board swore up and down that any guy like him coming from a mid-major couldn't contribute at UK.

Yep, and they were clearly wrong on that opinion. I've been looking at Reeves' numbers and production at IL State. He averaged only about 12ppg as a sophomore and wasn't their leading scorer. But his production sky rocketed as a junior. Of course, the problem is that he became THE primary focus of every scouting report and he drew the best defender on every team. But it didn't matter- he still averaged 20 points per game. That is the reason I think it's unwise to dismiss a guy like that just because he's not playing in a major conference. First of all, the Missouri Valley isn't the pushover conference it was years ago. Secondly, it's one thing to score 12-14 points for a mid-major because you can make a three and you have a decent team, but it's another things to be able to average 20 while basically being the 1 and 1A options on offense and the focus on every defense. A guy like that clearly can do more than make open shots- he can create offense. Reeves could potentially lead this team in scoring. I guess we'll see what happens. It's a good "problem" to have, too much talent and not enough minutes.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Livingston was one point away from being the SEVENTH player to average double figure scoring on the trip ... wow!

 

[Jtf2217_rivals46896]

A 60% shooter 2 50+% shooters a couple 40% shooters. Dang what a welcome sight.
Obviously we ain't gonna have 4 50+% percent shooters for the year but that's a heck of a good sign that multiple players have shown the ability to hit a a high clip.

Fwiw Reeves missed like 3 back to back last game that's hurting his percent a few points

 

[UK-Chulo]

If he does this on the regular it is winning basketball.

 

[kennyskywalker34]

My concerns are same as most seasons. Can they score in half court offense consistently?
Because we know the better coaches will run everyone back on defense and eliminate fast break chances.
2. Will Wheeler be consistent and not have high turnover games? What happens when he goes against a good defensive PG who sags off of him because we know he can't shoot from the outside.
3. Can they hit 38-40% on 3 pointers consistently? I'd say yes if what we saw from Toppin continues.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

My concerns are same as most seasons. Can they score in half court offense consistently?
Because we know the better coaches will run everyone back on defense and eliminate fast break chances.
2. Will Wheeler be consistent and not have high turnover games? What happens when he goes against a good defensive PG who sags off of him because we know he can't shoot from the outside.
3. Can they hit 38-40% on 3 pointers consistently? I'd say yes if what we saw from Toppin continues.

I'm ok if they run every body back on DEF, that means they get no Off Reb.
2, Wheeler has shown he is very good when guys around him are playing well. He struggles (TOs and forced shots) when everyone else is struggling and he tries to do too much (more than his skill set is capable). More balanced attack this year, plus hopefully less injuries, should mean better play than last year from him.
3, We ain't likely going to make 38-40%. Only 1 UK team in the 2000's has (2011 39.7%). But this team has chance to be the 2nd best 3pt shooting team in 2000's (37.8% now), and I'd take anywhere from 36%+, estimate 36-38%. Cal has only had 3 UK teams at 36+% (39.7% 2011, 37.8% 2012, 36.6% 2016, 36.0% 2018). I see us playing 4 guys who make 35-39%, and 1 making 45+%.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Can they score in half court offense consistently?

This. Pretty much everybody we play will want to slow it down other than Gonzaga.

 

[akaukswoosh]

 

[bucsrule8872]

Top 5 in minutes played:

Wheeler
Wallace
Livingston
Toppin
Tshiebwe

I think that is likely the starting five.

Fredrick and Reeves provide instant offense off the bench. Collins brings energy off the bench. That’s the eight main guys with Ware backing up Tshiebwe (unless Onyenso proves to be better, which is very possible) for 6-8 minutes a game.

Thiero might get some run early, but I doubt he plays much once SEC play starts.

Looks like we at least have a title contender.

 

[H00SIER-Cat]

We're 4 and 0 in games we didn't wear checkerboards.

 

[DudahUK]

Technically 84.8% /85% but whose counting.

You know that **** rounds up. Lol