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Hoosker Du

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That's what they always say about UCF. But if that's the case ...

Why is UCF going for its 3rd NY bowl win in 6 seasons? And why does UCF have more players in the NFL than a number of Power programs?

Seriously, this is so f'ing old, and you wonder why UCF fans are bitter in ways that have nothing to do with Frost? Nebraska fans need to stop taking credit for UCF's prior and future success.

"Why is UCF going for its 3rd NY bowl win in 6 seasons?"

BECAUSE YOU PLAY NO ONE DURING YOUR REGULAR SEASON!!! HOW F'ING DIFFICULT CAN IT BE TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT?!!
 

UCF Hawk

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"Why is UCF going for its 3rd NY bowl win in 6 seasons?"

BECAUSE YOU PLAY NO ONE DURING YOUR REGULAR SEASON!!! HOW F'ING DIFFICULT CAN IT BE TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT?!!

If you guys really believe that UCF doesn't play anyone and that is the only reason they have gone undefeated then basically that means that Frost really isn't that great a coach and his accomplishments at UCF really didn't amount to anything.....If that is the case perhaps he wont be able to accomplish much in your big boy conference since you do play someone?
 

bignow

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When I think of UCF, I think of the Larry Coker led Miami teams. Coker came in and won at a level superior to that of his predecessor in Butch Davis, but as soon as the Davis era kids were gone, the wheels fell off because the success was due to the culture put in place by Davis. Let's see how that program looks when none of their kids played for Coach Frost.

I hope you understand that Frost inherited ALL of the NFL talent on the team from last year. 7 players from the UCF 2017 team made NFL rosters, none of them were Frost recruits, none.
 

bignow

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Additional point, several of your current coaches came back to visit UCF and commented that they wished they never left Orlando.
 

morninghusker

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a certain one handed linebacker essentially relegated to special teams prior to frost recognizing his talent level? What was the culture of the UCF program prior to frost arriving? I'm sure other players were moved around as well because their talent dictated they were better suited at other positions. No matter who recruited them... Frost coached them up just as he has done at Nebraska
 
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It's like seeing your ex at the gas station. Sure, she looks good, but you know she isn't built for a long-term relationship. You tell her she was the best and then you get in your car and drive home to your wife and kids knowing every day you made the right decision

Meanwhile, your ex drives to the bar and tells everyone that she saw you and you were gushing over her completely ignoring any understanding of just being flattered by a nice guy. Then she leaves with a fat guy at the end of the night.
 

bignow

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a certain one handed linebacker essentially relegated to special teams prior to frost recognizing his talent level? What was the culture of the UCF program prior to frost arriving? I'm sure other players were moved around as well because their talent dictated they were better suited at other positions. No matter who recruited them... Frost coached them up just as he has done at Nebraska
It was a carry over (legacy UCF) coach that moved Shaquem
 

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"Why is UCF going for its 3rd NY bowl win in 6 seasons?"

BECAUSE YOU PLAY NO ONE DURING YOUR REGULAR SEASON!!! HOW F'ING DIFFICULT CAN IT BE TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT?!!
Everyone in the country can understand this, except UCF fans. They are playing and beating teams is a conf equivalent to good highschool teams.
I find it hilarious They hang their hat a NEW YEARs 6 bowls. Basically there are 12 teams that get into a NY6 bowls. The top 4 go to the playoffs. Their crap conf winner gets in by default because they need to fill spots. NY6 is not an accomplishment anymore, like it was back in the day.
 

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Guys, don’t expect bignow to provide a link. Totally pulling this one from where the sun don’t shine. What a tool.
 
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Spartanhusker

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Guys, don’t expect bignow to provide a link. Totally pulling this one from where the sun don’t shine. What a tool.
yep....

BTW, IF I could go back in time, I would have NEVER started this lighthearted intended thread...
 

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UCF is a sham until they quit dodging play a competitive schedule no matter the money they will continue to be a sham. It does not matter what they did and due in bowl games they would not be there if they played P5 teams
 

Hoosker Du

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If you guys really believe that UCF doesn't play anyone and that is the only reason they have gone undefeated then basically that means that Frost really isn't that great a coach and his accomplishments at UCF really didn't amount to anything.....If that is the case perhaps he wont be able to accomplish much in your big boy conference since you do play someone?

Do you remember a certain Heisman winning QB named Mariota at Oregon? Do you also remember that Oregon team playing for a National Championship in 2014? Mariota was coached by Frost, and Frost was the Offensive Coordinator of that Oregon team.

Frost also coached UCF to your only win against a good team last year...vs Auburn. Frost can coach, but didn't really require much of his coaching acumen against your schedule last year.

Edit - The point here is that Frost had already shown that he was a good P5 coach before taking over at UCF.
 
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I hope you understand that Frost inherited ALL of the NFL talent on the team from last year. 7 players from the UCF 2017 team made NFL rosters, none of them were Frost recruits, none.
Except your only first round draft pick Mike Hughes....right? Maybe you should brush up on your team a bit.

Which coincidentally means all the other said NFL players were part of your 0-12 season. I’m sure the current Nebraska staff had zero to do with their development.
 
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UCF Hawk

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Do you remember a certain Heisman winning QB named Mariota at Oregon? Do you also remember that Oregon team playing for a National Championship in 2014? Mariota was coached by Frost, and Frost was the Offensive Coordinator of that Oregon team.

Frost also coached UCF to your only win against a good team last year...vs Auburn. Frost can coach, but didn't really require much of his coaching acumen against your schedule last year.

Edit - The point here is that Frost had already shown that he was a good P5 coach before taking over at UCF.

So you are basically saying that every good OC goes on to be just as successful as a HC??? Seriously???? You really can't be that naive......
 

UCF Hawk

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Frost's ability to coach has nothing to do with UCF's inability to schedule quality opponents. The two aren't related.

Of course not but his winning percentage as a HC against P5 is significantly less than G5 so it was obviously attributed to the crappy G5 competition......perhaps his HC success at UCF was merely because they didn't play anyone.....If he doesn't win any championships in the next few years you will have your answer.....
 

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Of course not but his winning percentage as a HC against P5 is significantly less than G5 so it was obviously attributed to the crappy G5 competition......perhaps his HC success at UCF was merely because they didn't play anyone.....If he doesn't win any championships in the next few years you will have your answer.....
When a coach is starting out what is looked by P5 programs is how he can change a team for the better. Frost obviously did that with UCF going from 0-12 to 12-0. Now would he have done that with the UCF roster playing a P5 schedule - no but that is not the test. P5 teams looked at what impact he made playing the G5 schedules they had.

This does not mean UCF could have competed at a P5 level consistently - one or two games sure but not a P5 team week in week out with half of them on the road in sometimes large and hostiles venues

You guys need to quit with this "We are as good as any P5 team" its a sham
 
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Sorry I have to chime in.

The long winded dude lost credibility, with me, when he talked about UCF needing 6 home games as a reason that they don’t want to take a 2 for 1 with Florida. The AAC plays 8 conference games, that means they are guaranteed 4 home games and control 4 more. Hell if the wanted, some years they could have 8 home games. It wouldn't take much to play 2 in Gainesville. I don’t have the energy or desire to look at UCF’s future schedule, but if they have a home and home with another P5, just schedule Florida opposite, play Florida on the road the years you have the other P5 at home.

The issue with his bloviated posts, is that he seems to believe that UCF deserves to not have to start from the bottom and do things the way everyone else did, to earn their stripes. That because they are in Orlando or because they have the 3rd largest fan base in Florida, that they somehow deserve to skip the 2 for 1’s.

I’m out.
 

UCF Hawk

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When a coach is starting out what is looked by P5 programs is how he can change a team for the better. Frost obviously did that with UCF going from 0-12 to 12-0. Now would he have done that with the UCF roster playing a P5 schedule - no but that is not the test. P5 teams looked at what impact he made playing the G5 schedules they had.

This does not mean UCF could have competed at a P5 level consistently - one or two games sure but not a P5 team week in week out with half of them on the road in sometimes large and hostiles venues

You guys need to quit with this "We are as good as any P5 team" its a sham

Actually that is not the real sham.....sure playing in a P5 conference would be significantly more difficult but that is not the point. For the CFP to make claims that all 130 FBS teams have a shot is ridiculous. The CFP is nothing more than an invitational, driven by $$$, so it should not be portrayed as anything but. This is the ONLY championship not tied to an NCAA tournament. Perhaps we should do away with the NCAA BB tournament and let a committee select the final 4, what is the point of playing the games, just a waste of everyones time......
 

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UCF is a sham until they quit dodging play a competitive schedule no matter the money they will continue to be a sham. It does not matter what they did and due in bowl games they would not be there if they played P5 teams
I agree, we will never really know if UCF belongs. They refuse to play any good teams. Question does UCF claim another NC if they beat LSU? Apparently their qualification for a NC is just beating a P5 school. That in itself show they are a lower level team.
 
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Of course not but his winning percentage as a HC against P5 is significantly less than G5 so it was obviously attributed to the crappy G5 competition......perhaps his HC success at UCF was merely because they didn't play anyone.....If he doesn't win any championships in the next few years you will have your answer.....

Obviously the goal is championships, emphasis on the plural, but not winning a championship doesn't mean he's not a great coach. There are a lot of great coaches who haven't won a championship.

Jim Harbaugh, Dan Mullen, and Mike Leach are some easy examples of guys who haven't won a conference championship and are great coaches. It's hard to win when you play top teams multiple times a year.
 
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Ewooc

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Actually that is not the real sham.....sure playing in a P5 conference would be significantly more difficult but that is not the point. For the CFP to make claims that all 130 FBS teams have a shot is ridiculous. The CFP is nothing more than an invitational, driven by $$$, so it should not be portrayed as anything but. This is the ONLY championship not tied to an NCAA tournament. Perhaps we should do away with the NCAA BB tournament and let a committee select the final 4, what is the point of playing the games, just a waste of everyones time......
All teams do have a shot. Problem is level of competition. UCF refuses to play any good teams to get their strength of schedule built up and looking respectable. If UCF would consistently play 3 or 4 top 25 teams a year, and beat them. They would get respect and if they went undefeated. They would have a shot at a NC just like any other team.
When teams life FL offer a deal and UCF refuses, it comes across and you guys are all talk and really don't want to prove anything. Yes, I know it isn't fair. You feel you are better than a 2-1 deal. Problem is you aren't. You haven't done enough or been around long enough to get the respect of a home and home deal with the big boys. Every other team who has gotten into a p5 has been around 100+ years or has worked their way up. They went on the road to the big school and proved they could beat them anywhere, any place, any time. UCF for whatever reason doesn't think they have to do that.
 

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I agree, we will never really know if UCF belongs. They refuse to play any good teams. Question does UCF claim another NC if they beat LSU? Apparently their qualification for a NC is just beating a P5 school. That in itself show they are a lower level team.
Major fail at mutiple levels
 

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If you guys really believe that UCF doesn't play anyone and that is the only reason they have gone undefeated then basically that means that Frost really isn't that great a coach and his accomplishments at UCF really didn't amount to anything.....If that is the case perhaps he wont be able to accomplish much in your big boy conference since you do play someone?
Slick response.

However, Frost and his staff helped develop players, especially with the strength and conditioning program, but most importantly he completely changed the 0-12 culture.
 

Hoosker Du

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So you are basically saying that every good OC goes on to be just as successful as a HC??? Seriously???? You really can't be that naive......

And when I thought you couldn't be any more of an irritating twit, here you prove me wrong. Just how f*cking stupid are you? Why do you think our offense went from being ranked around 90th last year to Top 25 in one year? And why did our Freshman QB have one of the best statistical years for any freshman college QB?
 
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Ewooc

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I get your UCF hate. That’s fine, but don’t let it mess with your ability to state facts.
You are right I do hate UCF. I hate self entitlement of any kind. UCF is self entitled, they believe they deserve to get the same respect as the programs that have accomplished much more and been around much longer. They feel they do not have to earn anything but should be given it, based on a handful of good years. When they aren't given what they want, they throw a temper tantrum like a 2 year old and start just making stuff up. It is an embarrassment and disgrace to college football.
I am not saying UCF doesn't at least deserve to make it into a P5 conf. They do, until then. They need to shut up and let what they do on the field prove they belong, over decades.
 

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And when I thought you couldn't be any more of an irritating twit, here you prove me wrong. Just how f*cking stupid are you? Why do you think our offense went from being ranked around 90th last year to Top 25 in one year? And why did our Freshman QB have one of the best statistical years for any freshman college QB?


Wow, you cant just have a discussion without insults and hate.....Ok I'm done. Good luck with your bowl game.....