Tyran Stokes - Top Priority, IMO

[philstat]

He’s damn near a guaranteed 15&7 at minimum player, though likely more. He‘s 230lbs and can play an extremely physical game, cutting and getting to the rim. He’s a lottery pick and it would be Pope’s first ever which would change the narrative that he can’t get highly ranked players and move them to the next level. If I’m Pope, I have at least two other high level SFs in the hopper and if TS doesn’t commit by the day after the Nike Summit, I’d cut my losses immediately and move forward without him. Unfortunately, I believe the odds are 80% KU 20% UK, give or take 5-10%, I can see this kid wasting the staff’s time on getting other players and if they have a top SF in the portal ready to commit prior, they should take the bird in the hand, IMO.

 

[BigBlueGuru]

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wright

 

[gracetoyou]

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wright

Different positions & Pope needs both! There is money for both.

 

[JPFisher]

The dude is more drama than he's worth and I don't trust Pope to be able to handle him. In my opinion, UK is continuing to go after him based on the sunk cost fallacy, and it's ridiculous. The kid doesn't want to be here and he's a drama queen. Let Self have a stroke trying to rein him in and be done with this whole ridiculous ******* saga.

 

[ftp000]

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wright

I'm with you. A proven college success over a Freshman.

 

[philstat]

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wright

We should prioritize both, starting SF and PG

 

[philstat]

I'm with you. A proven college success over a Freshman.

Wright is a PG, we should go after both

 

[philstat]

The dude is more drama than he's worth and I don't trust Pope to be able to handle him. In my opinion, UK is continuing to go after him based on the sunk cost fallacy, and it's ridiculous. The kid doesn't want to be here and he's a drama queen. Let Self have a stroke trying to rein him in and be done with this whole ridiculous ******* saga.

He does seem a bit theatrical

 

[ftp000]

Wright is a PG, we should go after both

If there's money for both. Definitely.

 

[Kyfan27]

Wright is a PG, we should go after both

Would Wright even want to play second fiddle again? He just played with AJ I'm assuming he wants a star role.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

I don’t think he’s worth it and don’t think he’ll mesh well with Pope tbh

 

[philstat]

Would Wright even want to play second fiddle again? He just played with AJ I'm assuming he wants a star role.

Hard to say, only Pope and the coaches would know that, though to me TS only helps his cause, an impact player that will draw a lot of double teams and such, and Wright would get a lot of assists to him cutting to the rim.

 

[jad502002]

Unfortunately I think he takes the money and rides the pine to keep from getting hurt. Jmo

 

[TheDude73]

He does seem a bit theatrical

Maybe theatrical = attitude that translates positively to the floor and his game. Or is there worry he will be more of a cancer on the team and with his coaches?

 

[philstat]

Unfortunately I think he takes the money and rides the pine to keep from getting hurt. Jmo

Unfortunately, that is a possibility

 

[TX Wildcat]

Stokes will be a stud, but is he worth the reported $7M price tag (presumably ~30-35% of budget) when our team has so many holes to fill? If he guarantees a Final Four, yes. If not (as in the case of many of the teams who rely on a freshman star), likely not.

Drama or not, if he wants to be on your team you have to take/pay him. I just don't think he wants to be a Cat unless he sees us sign a few studs (especially a PG).

 

[philstat]

Maybe theatrical = attitude that translates positively to the floor and his game. Or is there worry he will be more of a cancer on the team and with his coaches?

To me he’s worth that risk, not too many versatile 6’7 230lb skilled-athletic options.

 

[JwUKFan11]

We cannot worry about if Pope cannot “control” the guy. We need talent. I don’t think he’s coming but we need guys as talented as him.

 

[philstat]

Stokes will be a stud, but is he worth the reported $7M price tag (presumably ~30-35% of budget) when our team has so many holes to fill? If he guarantees a Final Four, yes. If not (as in the case of many of the teams who rely on a freshman star), likely not.

Drama or not, if he wants to be on your team you have to take/pay him. I just don't think he wants to be a Cat unless he sees us sign a few studs (especially a PG).

If it’s truly $7M, believe we should pass, $5M should be the maximum, IMO.

 

[Resignmarkpope]

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wrig

I disagree. Would rather spend the money on Wright

A top point guard is a must! A top scorer is a must!

 

[Monday Nitro]

Phil is insufferable and likes it that way. He knows we aren't getting Stokes so he sets the strawman up in his front yard. Gag reading this attention-hound's posts.

 

[bgoad72]

For the last time. WE ARE NOT GETTING STOKES.

 

[rick64]

What's this kid waiting for anyway??!! Be done with it already. Not like he's torn on where he wants to go.

 

[philstat]

For the last time. WE ARE NOT GETTING STOKES.

Believe some of that depends on what each team brings in, both KU and UK are going to have heavily depleted rosters, Moreno and TS would work wonders with each other on feeds near the post, would be a better version of Chuck Hayes and Erik Daniels.

 

[gracetoyou]

Would Wright even want to play second fiddle again? He just played with AJ I'm assuming he wants a star role.

Says he wants to play alongside of a lottery pick.

 

[gracetoyou]

For the last time. WE ARE NOT GETTING STOKES.

It is a legit possibility & not crazy. Kansas is in the dark just as much as UK is right now.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Setting ourselves up for disappointment again, I see.

 

[senonesy]

Would Wright even want to play second fiddle again? He just played with AJ I'm assuming he wants a star role.

The most important thing to make a PG look good is to have quality players around you, so I assume he would be ok with it.

 

[Mike-D]

Phil is insufferable and likes it that way. He knows we aren't getting Stokes so he sets the strawman up in his front yard, Gag reading this attention-hound's posts.

Wouldn't be so sure about that. Pope and UK have presented more towards the deal, from what I've read today. I guess we will see.

 

[Prince is STILL KING!]

Stokes DOES NOT want to be at UK and it's pretty obvious. The longer his recruitment drags on the more embarrassing it is for UK. We need to cut ties with him and focus our attention on the portal. Looking desperate is never a good look...

 

[Ash Williams]

Stokes DOES NOT want to be at UK and it's pretty obvious. The longer his recruitment drags on the more embarrassing it is for UK. We need to cut ties with him and focus our attention on the portal. Looking desperate is never a good look...

Make him say no to $10M. See what happens.

 

[Monday Nitro]

Setting ourselves up for disappointment again, I see.

He's doing it on purpose so he can recall this post and get people angry. That's his schtict. He gets a kick out of getting UK fans here mad. Imagine that guy being a family member. Yuck.

 

[Prince is STILL KING!]

Make him say no to $10M. See what happens.

I am going to assume you are being sarcastic....good lord!

 

[CELTICAT]

About a month ago, I thought we had a good chance at Stokes and even thought he’d commit at the Nike Hoops Summit at the end of this week. However, my understanding is KU came up with the funds necessary to match UK’s offer and the staff has quietly moved on without going over the top.

 

[peterpiper09]

this would be my message to Stokes

 

[FilsonCat]

If you can get Stokes, you take him. He's the point forward that we didn't have last season and could showcase his game. As it stands now, Stokes would get as many minutes as he could handle. He'd be tough to guard in 4-1 pistol with Moreno creating some room. Folks talk about his attitude, but would you all turn away DeMarcus Cousins? What about Magloire? We need some players with an edge to them.

 

[philstat]

this would be my message to Stokes

LOL, we aren't in the positon yet to do that, IMO

 

[philstat]

About a month ago, I thought we had a good chance at Stokes and even thought he’d commit at the Nike Hoops Summit at the end of this week. However, my understanding is KU came up with the funds necessary to match UK’s offer and the staff has quietly moved on without going over the top.

Not a bit surprised if that ends up being the case

 

[philstat]

Setting ourselves up for disappointment again, I see.

Quite possibly

 

[NociHTTP]

The dude is more drama than he's worth and I don't trust Pope to be able to handle him. In my opinion, UK is continuing to go after him based on the sunk cost fallacy, and it's ridiculous. The kid doesn't want to be here and he's a drama queen. Let Self have a stroke trying to rein him in and be done with this whole ridiculous ******* saga.

Something about that kid just irks me, greatly.