I'm excited!! Always love the new classes, and these guys will do some great things.
Tyler Ulis is the Key...
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Most likely. I personally can enjoy a season like this one and appreciate watching the team progress and grow.
Never happening. I enjoy the ride and support the team. You cannot find one post of me dogging a player or the team. I am the anti-cut nets. Keep trying.
So not having a transcendent potential #1 pick means we will have a bad season? WTF?
How the hell did those 4 teams playing on Saturday get there? And why did LSU stay home?
If this years team lost 9,, and next year's team will lose 8-10.. Then next year's guards are a drop off from this year and next year's bigs are equal or maybe a hair better than this year's bigs..
I never said a bad season, I said early season struggle, 8-10 losses (mostly on the road) and a somewhat unexpectedly good tourney run. Just like 2011. Just like 2014.
Fox isn't Wall and never will be. However, I still think he will be one heck of a player and benefit greatly from having Monk as his running mate and having help in the front court. Remember, Wall benefited greatly from having Cousins and Patterson roaming underneath the basketball and having Bledsoe being his two guard.
We really need one of our guards to come back. We will be thin at guard for sure if one does not return of Ulis or Briscoe.
Holy **** I just got on here and read the OP's comment.
Wow, actually not wow. He must be a UL fan here to stir up the hornets nest. That is the only explanation for writing all that based on a frickin all star game.
And I am sure his wife is beatiful on the inside.
I can see how the new guys like myself who have only been around the board a decade can get on your nerves. I also didn't back any horse, just agreed with the original post.
Judging by your hip, pseudo tough guy talk I'll probably just drop it because I can tell I would be in way over my head arguing with a guy like you.
Monk is so good with the ball as well, It is going to be Wall/Bledsoe all over again. It will be Monk getting Fox looks inside the paint ala Briscoe type stuff and Fox getting Monk looks off the dribble and set him up for iso's
Fox is no John Wall but he is not hunting shots and that is important. He was content with not scoring but still passing up shots to make passes. That is great trait.
Bam will lead the league in fouls, over the backs, charges, reach in fouls. He will probably lead the country in posterized dunks, lead SEC in rebounds etc. He is going to be a great player.
Fox is no John Wall but he is not hunting shots and that is important. He was content with not scoring but still passing up shots to make passes. That is great trait.
Bam will lead the league in fouls, over the backs, charges, reach in fouls. He will probably lead the country in posterized dunks, lead SEC in rebounds etc. He is going to be a great player.
[roll]A couple of weeks ago, a majority of this board said this team would lose 2-3 games tops. Now 8-10 lmao.
I agree totally, many people on this board know next to nothing about basketball.
And you lead the list.
Let's not overreact to a single all star game performance. Fox had well over 70 TS% this past season.
Let's also not make the assumption that any single one of the freshman will be the level of Cousins or Ulis.
Let's also not make the assumption that any single one of the freshman will be the level of Cousins or Ulis.
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OP watches one All-Star game and makes definitive statements regarding a season that's eight months away.
You people are too much. If these same recruits ball out and put up huge numbers while shooting 100 percent in Jordan game, the 40-0 BY GAWD!!! crowd will show up. The insanity goes both ways. At least the optimists aren't terrible to be around like pessimistic people usually are.
Let's just see where next year goes. There's a long time between now and then.
You people are too much. If these same recruits ball out and put up huge numbers while shooting 100 percent in Jordan game, the 40-0 BY GAWD!!! crowd will show up. The insanity goes both ways. At least the optimists aren't terrible to be around like pessimistic people usually are.
Let's just see where next year goes. There's a long time between now and then.
He's the 'key' in the sense that he'd be by far the best player on the team, and perhaps country, if he did come back. But yeah- not going to happen.
Our strength at the beginning of the season will be transition basketball. Hopefully after the 1st month, defense becomes solid, confidence high. Shots fall. Come SEC play, able to run half court offense and multiple sets...
Want to Beat UL, UCLA, and Mich St...we will be young, but with Briscoe n willis, think there is enough exp to get us through Nov n Dec...
Looking forward to a great season.
Who knows, ulis n Murray may come back...imagine that!
Want to Beat UL, UCLA, and Mich St...we will be young, but with Briscoe n willis, think there is enough exp to get us through Nov n Dec...
Looking forward to a great season.
Who knows, ulis n Murray may come back...imagine that!
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Fox didn't look good but certainly he's better than he showed. The bright spot is that it looks like Monk can play the point if Fox struggles next year.
Without ever playing a game at UK, our interior signee's for next season are already better than Skal, Lee and Poythress (most of the time) this year. The jury will be out on the backcourt until we face good competition. But, I'm not terribly worried about Monk and Bam. Plus, if we get Briscoe back for defensive purposes and Willis can stay healthy and remain a 3 point threat, I really like the potential with this group.
Remember Marquis Teague? It took the better part of the year for him to finally "get it".
Remember Marquis Teague? It took the better part of the year for him to finally "get it".
I'd maybe agree with that if everyone of our main contributors this season were leaving. If we get Briscoe and Willis back improved I think that will be enough to prevent 8-10 losses. We'll lose a handful of games because of the adjustment period young teams have and we will drop a SEC road game or two.
Anyone who makes a final judgment on any recruit based on 1 all star game is just not thinking. The only recruit who didn't play pretty well tonight was Fox, and he...
1. Was being guarded by Malik Monk most of the night.
2. Looked like he was trying too hard early and was putting too much pressure on himself, like this thread does.
3. Still finished with 7 assists, which is certainly not terrible.
4. Was clearly the focus of the other team's defense when others waltzed in and got open lanes.
Adebayo is the best big man we've had since Davis. He may be the top pick in 2017 draft.
Monk looked like he was wearing springs out there. He's gonna be awesome.
SKJ only played 12 minutes tonight and looked pretty good. He look much bigger than I expected, a legit 6-11 and with a long reach.
We haven't seen Gabriel yet, but he's condemned in this thread as well.
I'm amazed how a snap judgment of the entire 2016-17 season can be made after one all star game. Wow!
Can we at least wait until after the other 2 big games, Jordan and Nike games before we flush the toilet?
1. Was being guarded by Malik Monk most of the night.
2. Looked like he was trying too hard early and was putting too much pressure on himself, like this thread does.
3. Still finished with 7 assists, which is certainly not terrible.
4. Was clearly the focus of the other team's defense when others waltzed in and got open lanes.
Adebayo is the best big man we've had since Davis. He may be the top pick in 2017 draft.
Monk looked like he was wearing springs out there. He's gonna be awesome.
SKJ only played 12 minutes tonight and looked pretty good. He look much bigger than I expected, a legit 6-11 and with a long reach.
We haven't seen Gabriel yet, but he's condemned in this thread as well.
I'm amazed how a snap judgment of the entire 2016-17 season can be made after one all star game. Wow!
Can we at least wait until after the other 2 big games, Jordan and Nike games before we flush the toilet?
We would be a hellava lot better if Tyler came back and I do expect us to struggle early in the season. Feels a lot like 2014 to be honest. Everyone was saying we wouldn't be beat but when you play mostly all freshman, you're going to struggle some. Now, I don't agree with everything in the post but I don't think it's a stretch to say we may struggle next year and then make a good run in the tourney. What's so bad about having that opinion? I have learned to temper my expectations with freshman. No all freshman team is going to come in and dominate college basketball. I just don't see why everyone thinks this post is so crazy. Pretty logical to me. If Ulis stays, we dominate. If Ulis goes, we have a really good talented team that may struggle early but get it together in March. What's so crazy bout that?
Best big man we have had since Davis? That's a bold statement. I like the kid too but I don't know if I'd go that far. Don't think he will be better than Towns. Some analysts at the McDonalds game says be has a ways to go offensively. He will be good but that's a bold statement.
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What is so dumb about his post? I just don't get all the bashing. He said if Tyler were to return (just a what if scenario) that we would be amazing. That is true. If he doesn't and we come into next year with the team we have right now, we may struggle early and at times through the season. That is true also. What's so crazy about that opinion? I don't get it.
Nobody ever thought we would lose as many games as we did in 2014. Everyone thought, me included, that we would maybe lose 2-4 games on our way to a title with all of our talent. Then the realization of playing mostly all freshman happened and we struggled through the season and made a incredible run in the tourney. Just because they dominate high school ball doesn't mean they will come here and be world beaters, you know that as well as anybody on here. You know you're stuff and I respect that a lot and I know you know the strengths of our incoming players but it doesn't always mean they won't come in and struggle to adjust to the game, fans, arenas, pressures, etc. Not saying that they will struggle but it is very much possible. They may come in and get it from the gate and have an amazing year. I'd be stoked if they did but I would be surprised too. I just think don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they struggle early next year. So, I don't understand why all the bashing of the post. Not to say that I agree with all of it but I think it's logical that it may be a possibility. That's all.
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It seems ulismyman,zaytoven, and cut nets have company for poster of the year lol
then why not say this a few months ago instead of now, after their first showing on tv?
briscoe is the key. ulis is a first team all-american at uk. he's gone.
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If Cats return Willis, Hawkins, Matthews, Humphries, Wynyard, Briscoe, and possibly Lee, I think that's plenty enough experience and talent to help the freshmen get through the growing pains early on. That actually might be the most experience a Cal team has returned since he's been here.
I could see us losing 5-7 games next year. If we can get through the OOC with only 1 or 2 losses, bodes well for the rest of the season. We should be much better on the road with all that returning experience.
But saying the sky is falling over an all-star game is the ultimate overreaction.
I could see us losing 5-7 games next year. If we can get through the OOC with only 1 or 2 losses, bodes well for the rest of the season. We should be much better on the road with all that returning experience.
But saying the sky is falling over an all-star game is the ultimate overreaction.
Rookie backcourt with so -so backups will lose some games . 6 to 13 losses. 13 losses if Fox isn't great and 6 losses if he is John Wall. 18 sec games is a gauntlet for rookie guards. 13-5 , 12-6.
One thing about McDonald's game is 95% of the time the best players score and score a lot. The cream always rises to the top.
One thing about McDonald's game is 95% of the time the best players score and score a lot. The cream always rises to the top.
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Calling 10 losses is extreme. Saying that right now is dumb, period. Even if it does actually happen, predicting it now would be more a result of luck than making a conclusion based on evidence (and there is none as of right now).
He's also acting like he knew Towns would be amazing from the get go. We were good that year because of depth moreso than any one person carrying us.
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Fox hit 9 threes in a game with Cal sitting court side.
Think it is a stretch to say he can't shoot.
Fox hit 9 threes in a game with Cal sitting court side.
Think it is a stretch to say he can't shoot.
So are you really comparing the final four teams this yr to what UK will potentially look like next yr assuming the usual guys go pro? Villanova, Carolina, and Oklahoma are all very, very experienced with huge production out of seniors. I don't understand your point at all.
and people need to stop comparing UK to LSU when it comes to basketball in any form.
Now, I said that I didn't agree with everything in the post. I don't think they will have 10 losses. But then again, is it really so crazy of a thought to justify the backlash on this poster? Again, I don't think they will lose that many but it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility that they may. We're talking about another team of freshman. I think history has proven that if anything, freshman are unpredictable. If anyone on the board had predicted that Skal would have the type of year he had, people would lose their minds on here. Talk about epic meltdown! Posters would go nuts on that person. I can see it now........"you're so dumb! Dumbest post in history! I guess everyone who does this for a living is wrong and you are right. Blah blah blah"
My point is that it is not a dumb concept to think that it may be a possibility with this team. That's all I meant.
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