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Bulldogg31

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So after finishing Breaking Bad, GOT, and a few others, Mrs 31 and I are making our way through The Walking Dead.

Halfway through Season 2 and it's uh, not very good.

What are we missing? All these characters could get eaten tonight and I'd be fine. I'm cheering for the Walkers. Tell me it gets better.
 

preacher_dawg

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It gets worse. If I remember right, season 2 was actually one of the best seasons (or is that 3?) I would consider giving up on it. I wish I did.
 

civildawg88

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If you don't think it's good this early, just stop because it constantly goes downhill each season
 

engie

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At this point, I feel like they are punking me -- with all the "single character one off not really attached to the main story" episodes. If they are going to spread the story like that, GOT formatting would be much better where they split the episodes. Every time there is a bad *** episode that really gets my attention and interest -- they come back with 2 sideshow filler episodes that don't drastically advance the plot and only feel like they seek to divert. Has been like that for several seasons now.

It's to the point that I watch Homeland in real time and come back to TWD. Now that has been on point the past couple of seasons after going off the rails for a season or two.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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All the seasons except the first, can get extremely boring...which is why I stopped watching after like the 4th or 5th
 

LawDawg97

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If you don't like it now, you won't later.

So after finishing Breaking Bad, GOT, and a few others, Mrs 31 and I are making our way through The Walking Dead.

Halfway through Season 2 and it's uh, not very good.

What are we missing? All these characters could get eaten tonight and I'd be fine. I'm cheering for the Walkers. Tell me it gets better.

But I would watch to the end of season 2 because it ends strong. "Pretty Much Dead Already" is the infamous "barn" episode that was cool, and "Nebraska" right after it was good. The end of the season reveals a pretty cool twist on the story and you find out what Dr. Jenner whispers to Rick. But as others have said, it has weakened each season.
 

bulldog2488

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Don't do it. I was a fan at the beginning, but like others said, it continues to go downhill. I thought this season would be better with the addition of Negan, but it isn't. I finally gave up on it a few weeks ago. I got tired of the writing, plot holes, and repeating the same old story in a new location every season. I just couldn't do it anymore.
 

Shamoan

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Some of the worst characters become some of the best and vice versa. Hang in there.
 

PineGroveBully

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Smokey and the Bandit

Anyone else notice Snowman's trailer on the side of the road in the episode from the week before last? I thought that was it then talking dead confirmed.
 

PBRME

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Season 2 was terrible. It got better. This season though. The greatest point in the comics is about to end my show watching. How can they make an entire episode about Eugene and pickles? Something needs to happen or I'm out.
 

Bulldogg31

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Glad to hear you guys say that. I thought maybe watching our basketball team the past month had dulled my senses.

I think we'll try Westworld. Heard that was good.
 

Dawg1979

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So after finishing Breaking Bad, GOT, and a few others, Mrs 31 and I are making our way through The Walking Dead.

Halfway through Season 2 and it's uh, not very good.

What are we missing? All these characters could get eaten tonight and I'd be fine. I'm cheering for the Walkers. Tell me it gets better.


i couldn't get in to it eithere. i've tried twice and i'm done. couldn't get past episode 3.
 

MSUDC11

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It's just so up and down, and very repetitive at times. I agree that they don't seem to pace themselves very well. They will do a big episode (Season 4 MSF, Season 7 Premiere) and then go way too slow coming off of that.

The second half of S4 is awful outside of the Carol episode, and they haven't really done much at all since the big opening episode this season.

It's definitely not for everyone. I have stuck with it this long just because there are some excellent things in the comics that I wanted to see on TV (mostly the Negan stuff, which has been hit or miss). I think they need to wrap things up in the next year or two though, even if the comics go on longer. The show is definitely losing steam when I thought this would be a season where it got white hot again.
 

11thEagleFan

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I just can't do TWD anymore. The last 2 episodes are still sitting unwatched on my DVR. Like others have said, the show is mostly filler now, they rely on the same formula repeatedly, and for a zombie apocalypse show, there's a jarring lack of zombies.

Do yourself a favor if you have Netflix and watch Stranger Things. My wife and I started it on Sunday and finished the series last night. Much scarier than TWD, better story, better acting, and it's a major nostalgia trip for those of us who remember the 80s.
 

MSUDC11

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I just can't do TWD anymore. The last 2 episodes are still sitting unwatched on my DVR. Like others have said, the show is mostly filler now, they rely on the same formula repeatedly, and for a zombie apocalypse show, there's a jarring lack of zombies.

Do yourself a favor if you have Netflix and watch Stranger Things. My wife and I started it on Sunday and finished the series last night. Much scarier than TWD, better story, better acting, and it's a major nostalgia trip for those of us who remember the 80s.

Stranger Things is excellent. My only concern is that it's going to be really hard for Season 2 to be an improvement on Season 1. S1 was basically perfect. I just hope this next season doesn't water it down at all.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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If you like the Walker element in the show, then it gets wayyyyy worse. If you would like for the storyline to make the Walkers an afterthought then you will love it!!! For me, the most painful thing about watching it is getting past the VERY bad southern accents.
 

johnson86-1

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So after finishing Breaking Bad, GOT, and a few others, Mrs 31 and I are making our way through The Walking Dead.

Halfway through Season 2 and it's uh, not very good.

What are we missing? All these characters could get eaten tonight and I'd be fine. I'm cheering for the Walkers. Tell me it gets better.

As other people have noted, it gets better, but it never gets away from the one good show, two or even three meh shows. But you are in the middle of the worst part. They fired their lead guy in season two because it was dragging on so slowly and painfully, and then the pace picks up and finishes strong. You can see a noticeable difference although again, it never gets away from having one to three slow episodes in between each really good one.
 

bulldog2488

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****MILD SPOILER*****

When I finally decided I was done with TWD, was from a few episodes ago. Carl broke in to Negan's stronghold, stole a gun and mowed down several of Negan's men. I was pretty excited at this point, but what happened next made me give up on the show because of the writing. Carl said "I only want Negan!" Negan shows up and Carl doesn't do anything. Doesn't shoot him and really doesn't say much. He does nothing when he had the chance to kill their nemesis! They almost seem to become buddies the rest of the episode. Now let me be clear...Jeffery Dean Morgan does an excellent portraying the character and I totally understand why they wouldn't kill off Negan because of plot, fans, etc. BUT don't make a stupid plot point and writing mistake like this by letting Carl break in and then not shoot him. It would have been better had he not broken in to begin with. It was just stupid to me and I said I'm done with the show. I know that may seem small to some, but I've had frustration with the show the last few years for repetitiveness and a bunch of filler. It was just time for me. End of rant!

As others said, watch Stranger Things! Loved it!
 

engie

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Carl said "I only want Negan!" Negan shows up and Carl doesn't do anything. Doesn't shoot him and really doesn't say much.
He shot at them before having the gun taken once moves were made. Negan was obviously using his own guys as human shields -- and Carl is still shooting right handed with no right eye(can't aim). Being that it was prettymuch a suicide mission, Carl probably should have gotten him right there and died himself, but I agree that it was dumb not to have him empty the clip before Negan is standing in front of him after they set it up how they did.

This is my problem with all of these shows now once they become monsters. Dumbed down for the masses. Where GOT started out so smart(I'm going to assume from it having the book blueprint) -- it's had some tremendously dumb points the past two seasons. And next season is going to be much worse, if leaks are to be believed. EX: Knights of the Vale showing up to save the day in the Battle of the Bastards. The show has probably used 20+ minutes over the 6 years defining what Moat Cailin is for the viewers and it's significance. We had Ned send (either 20 or 40) archers to MC once he found out Tyrion had been taken -- it is heavily implied that this is enough to defend the Moat from a full Lannister attack from the south thus preventing them from entering the north. We had Ramsey use Theon in order to get them to open their gates to take it back from the Ironborn(from the north, no less) with Roose giving a description of his army being stuck south of the neck(they also couldn't just conquer the Moat from the south). Yet the Knights of the Vale apparently ride right thru Bolton-held MC from the south -- without even a raven being sent back to Ramsey/Roose at Winterfell. Then they proceed to march thousands of men and horses north along the Kingsroad for hundreds of miles without even a peep going back to the Boltons(or the Stark force for that matter). It's just highly illogical. At this point, they are just hitting main plot points. And how they get to those points do not have to be logical or make sense.
 
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Uncle Ruckus

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Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't Victarion take Moat Cailin rather easily? He couldn't have had that many Ironborn, and definitely not nearly as much as the largest army in Westoros in the Knights of the Vale. I would also figure that Ramsey didn't leave hardly anybody behind and used all his men in the BotB. My point is if Victarion can take it then it's not crazy to think that the Knights of the Vale couldn't.
 

engie

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Victarion took it from the north and by water. It's designed to withstand from the south and has never once been taken in the history of Westeros from the south(how the Vale would have had to). This feature is why the north still worships Old Gods instead of the Seven -- the Andals never could break through the Moat -- and every time they attempted to sail around it -- the Starks hit them with everything they had as soon as they landed(hence the other plothole of Ramsey not knowing they were coming). Ramsey(Roose actually) would have certainly had the Moat more fortified than Ned did -- with, I think it was, 40 archers -- that were intending on stopping the full power of the Lannisters from advancing north half an army ago. A force about triple the size of the book Vale army and probably 10 fold larger than what actually went north for BOTB.

The Vale making it thru the Moat and to the north undetected served to check a plot box that put the Starks back in control of Winterfell against impossible odds. It didn't make practical sense even though it was well done cinematography. What does LF gain by declaring for Sansa there? How does that put him closer to the Iron Throne? It doesn't. Book LF would have never done it at that point -- he would let the Tyrells, Lannisters, and Martells destroy each other before he ever makes a move -- until after he has the clearly superior force. The whole sequence is going to be infinitely different in the books, and almost assuredly more sensical. Just getting through the Neck could be(should have been) explained by Howland Reed smuggling them through Greywater Watch and around MC. That still doesn't get them to Winterfell without the Boltons knowing -- and if they know -- they just hole up inside and wait out a siege while everyone outside dies. Wun Wun never gets a chance to break the gate if there are a couple thousand bows on him, rather than a dozen in what virtually amounts to a sneak attack. ETC. The Stannis trickery that I think is going to actually win Winterfell in the books is going to be beautiful early in WOW I imagine. I think he makes it until the Wall falls and that's when the Shireen thing happens.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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I really need to re-read them. I've watched the show several times over so it's all kind of blended together. Do you read the history of book? I have it and have never cracked it.
 

engie

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I really need to re-read them. I've watched the show several times over so it's all kind of blended together. Do you read the history of book? I have it and have never cracked it.
Yeah, and I found it very interesting. Especially the theory that the Faceless Men were behind the Doom of Valyria and the description of the Five Forts(the "Wall" in the east). I think Emilio Garcia knows about as much about Planetos as George does in some ways and was the perfect guy for that expansion of the world. I don't love the show bashing that Emilio does -- but his argument almost always makes sense to me. I still greatly enjoy the show and look forward to it like no other TV show I've ever watched. I just think George not finishing the books prior to the show is going to hurt it tremendously in the test of time though because of forced action not following logical character development from some point in season 4 through the end of the story. They are putting characters in places and making them do things now -- rather than their actions being logical following of their characters in some cases.

One thing I am really looking forward to in TWOW -- and also fearful of -- is how George is going to start to bring the story back to center. Thusfar it's done nothing but spread out more and more with more additional characters that we care something about. I don't really see how it's going to be possible to tie it up with a nice little bow in two more volumes.
 
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