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Because racists were hidden during the Obama years? I don't get it.

It seems to me, I could be completely wrong, that Trump winning has emboldened people to display stupid racist, bigoted stuff. I read somewhere that the lady is the president of some Republican group.

I'm pretty surprised it happened in Cabell County. Lincoln County wouldn't surprise me.
 

Boomboom521

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That's just a ridiculous assertion.
There was at least one thread dedicated to how much different the media coverage would have been if the Chicago victim was black attacked by whites. I constantly read pro-Christian and anti-Muslim sentiments on here. What's so ridiculous?
 

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There was at least one thread dedicated to how much different the media coverage would have been if the Chicago victim was black attacked by whites. I constantly read pro-Christian and anti-Muslim sentiments on here. What's so ridiculous?

I am prejudice against Islam. I would never say what she said, however.
 

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Why are you prejudiced against Islam?

More detailed explanation...

  1. No one witnessed Muhammad's cave on drugs experience that he supposedly testifies to in the second Quran.
  2. The first Quran written by Muhammad was destroyed after his death(Abu Bakr).
  3. The second Quran was put to writing by those who had heard the stories from memory.
  4. The second Quran testifies about some events 700+ years before it is written, Muhammad could not witness those, nor no one in his lifetime, could testify to those events being true. That would be like me writing as a first hand expert on the Civil War.
 

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It seems to me, I could be completely wrong, that Trump winning has emboldened people to display stupid racist, bigoted stuff. I read somewhere that the lady is the president of some Republican group.

I'm pretty surprised it happened in Cabell County. Lincoln County wouldn't surprise me.
I find racists to be pretty emboldened in general on the interwebs, no matter who is in office.
 

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More detailed explanation...

  1. No one witnessed Muhammad's cave on drugs experience that he supposedly testifies to in the second Quran.
  2. The first Quran written by Muhammad was destroyed after his death(Abu Bakr).
  3. The second Quran was put to writing by those who had heard the stories from memory.
  4. The second Quran testifies about some events 700+ years before it is written, Muhammad could not witness those, nor no one in his lifetime, could testify to those events being true. That would be like me writing as a first hand expert on the Civil War.
And so the Bible.....
 

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And so the Bible.....

And so the Bible.

Old Testament is hard to judge historicity. However, all of the New Testament books were written within the generation proceeding Jesus. There were people to testify to the truth or falseness of such writings. The 66 books canonized all have events occurring at certain times at certain places, meaning they can be verified. Several secular authors and historians of that time did testify to some of those events. There are more "original" (meaning during that generation) copies of New Testament scrolls than any other of that time period. Some were taken to the Far East and Egypt in a few short year's time.

The contrast is quite striking.
 

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And so the Bible.

Old Testament is hard to judge historicity. However, all of the New Testament books were written within the generation proceeding Jesus. There were people to testify to the truth or falseness of such writings. The 66 books canonized all have events occurring at certain times at certain places, meaning they can be verified. Several secular authors and historians of that time did testify to some of those events. There are more "original" (meaning during that generation) copies of New Testament scrolls than any other of that time period. Some were taken to the Far East and Egypt in a few short year's time.

The contrast is quite striking.
Isnt the Quran considered to be a historic chronicle of the apostles as well?
 

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In the sense that you cite other historical references of the Bible?

The Gospels say Jesus sacrificed Himself for our sins, written within 20-30 years of His death.
Quran says it was a trick, written 600 years after.

How is it a chronicle? I'm going to write a book and assert that the south won the war.
 

Boomboom521

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The Gospels say Jesus sacrificed Himself for our sins, written within 20-30 years of His death.
Quran says it was a trick, written 600 years after.

How is it a chronicle? I'm going to write a book and assert that the south won the war.
I'm not challenging you, I'm truly asking
 

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There was at least one thread dedicated to how much different the media coverage would have been if the Chicago victim was black attacked by whites. I constantly read pro-Christian and anti-Muslim sentiments on here. What's so ridiculous?
There is certainly going to be pushback against the PC Nazi culture that has been created in the last 20 years. It's natural that the pendulum is going to swing back the other way.

With that said, there is never a time and place acceptable for racism or any of the other isms you listed. However, I also think there are times where the left uses a specific ism to stifle debate. (certainly not in the example listed as it was legit)
 

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I think all of those tweets contain sentiments shared by most conservatives on this board. But they're not racist, islamophobic, polarizing loudmouths at all.

Boomer my Man, question for you.

Help me if I'm wrong here, but is that word "Islamophobic" an accurate description among the Left of people who they think either hate, dislike or don't understand Muslims?

OK, so what's the word like that the Left thinks should be used to describe those who they think either hate, dislike, or don't understand Christians?
 
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I do not consider it as such. Muhammad was jacked up on hashish and saw things in a cave, nowhere near the place or time of the events. Somehow this turned into a religion.
New take to me. At least your prejudice lays with historical exception of the Quran. I still say let em be, but I respect the attention to the detail.
 

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There is certainly going to be pushback against the PC Nazi culture that has been created in the last 20 years. It's natural that the pendulum is going to swing back the other way.

With that said, there is never a time and place acceptable for racism or any of the other isms you listed. However, I also think there are times where the left uses a specific ism to stifle debate. (certainly not in the example listed as it was legit)
Why the pushback though? Why is it so damaging to care about how your comments can hurt others? Geez, I made some comments about my own family not trying to progress as people....and BAM I'm labeled as anti-rural and anti-country. I from Pinch, WV. I didn't mean such an attack on a group the encompasses myself, and there is nothing elitist about me at all. But I'll be more careful the next time I address the issue, as I should be.

I think combating racism and sexism has long been a rallying cry of the left. Progressive attitudes, breaking from tradition, tolerance and understanding through education...these are liberal principles. I'm not saying we aren't seeing a change in some fundamentals in both parties, but it's been that way for some time.
 

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Boomer my Man, question for you.

Help me if I'm wrong here, but is that word "Islamophobic" an accurate description among the Left of people who they think either hate, dislike or don't understand Muslims?

OK, so what's the word like that the Left thinks should be used to describe those who they think either hate, dislike, or don't understand Christians?

Christianaphobic
 

atlkvb

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Christianaphobic

Works.....wonder why no one on the Left is ever called that?

Don't they have the same feelings towards Christians they accuse everyone else on the Right of having against Muslims?
 

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Why the pushback though? Why is it so damaging to care about how your comments can hurt others? Geez, I made some comments about my own family not trying to progress as people....and BAM I'm labeled as anti-rural and anti-country. I from Pinch, WV. I didn't mean such an attack on a group the encompasses myself, and there is nothing elitist about me at all. But I'll be more careful the next time I address the issue, as I should be.

I think combating racism and sexism has long been a rallying cry of the left. Progressive attitudes, breaking from tradition, tolerance and understanding through education...these are liberal principles. I'm not saying we aren't seeing a change in some fundamentals in both parties, but it's been that way for some time.

Tolerance from the left? Meaning they tolerate those who believe exactly as they.
 

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Boomer my Man, question for you.

Help me if I'm wrong here, but is that word "Islamophobic" an accurate description among the Left of people who they think either hate, dislike or don't understand Muslims?

OK, so what's the word like that the Left thinks should be used to describe those who they think either hate, dislike, or don't understand Christians?
It's a word used to describe the rhetoric that leads people to fear all people of Islamic faith. Making the extremist the "typical" person of Islamic faith. Much like when someone suggests that Muslims that have nothing to do with any type terrorist action or activity are still somewhat guilty because they didn't know and report those that do.
 

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It's a word used to describe the rhetoric that leads people to fear all people of Islamic faith. Making the extremist the "typical" person of Islamic faith. Much like when someone suggests that Muslims that have nothing to do with any type terrorist action or activity are still somewhat guilty because they didn't know and report those that do.

So again I ask, is there a similar sentiment in your opinion for people who think the same way about Christians?

Why not?
 

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Tolerance from the left? Meaning they tolerate those who believe exactly as they.
Meaning they are tolerant of faiths, traditions, cultures, and identities that are different than their own. I bet you think is hypocritical because they should be tolerant of intolerance as well?
 

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Meaning they are tolerant of faiths, traditions, cultures, and identities that are different than their own

Does the Left "tolerate" Christians based on your description? Conservatives? Republicans? Rich White people?

If so, how?
 

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Is there a lot of Christian extremist terrorism chatter out there I'm not aware of?

I'm asking about on the Left.

As far as I know Christians are not out there chopping off heads or engaging in "Holy War" to spread their Faith...you're correct. However I don't hear a pejorative word the Left uses to describe anti-Christian haters like they throw around the word "Islamophobic" to describe anti- Muslim haters....or at least those who they perceive to be such.
 
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Meaning they are tolerant of faiths, traditions, cultures, and identities that are different than their own. I bet you think is hypocritical because they should be tolerant of intolerance as well?

I think it's hypocritical because they are hypocrites. They do not tolerate Christianity. And you're insane or a liar to say otherwise.
 

Boomboom521

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I think it's hypocritical because they are hypocrites. They do not tolerate Christianity. And you're insane or a liar to say otherwise.
Do you realize how many Christians are on the left? Do you just gloss over that fact? Is it just a party of Sean Penns?
 

Boomboom521

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Does the Left "tolerate" Christians based on your description? Conservatives? Republicans? Rich White people?

If so, how?
They aren't tolerant of rich white people because they want to raise their taxes? They aren't tolerant of republicans because they don't agree with their policies and seek to beat them in campaigns? They're not tolerant of Christians because ???
 

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Works.....wonder why no one on the Left is ever called that?

Don't they have the same feelings towards Christians they accuse everyone else on the Right of having against Muslims?

That's exactly why you have never heard of it. Most Christians vote Republican so there is no need for the left to defend them at all costs. Just typical hypocrisy from the left. It's the same reason that they never ask Muslim bakeries what their stance on gay marriage is.
 

Boomboom521

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That's exactly why you have never heard of it. Most Christians vote Republican so there is no need for the left to defend them at all costs. Just typical hypocrisy from the left. It's the same reason that they never ask Muslim bakeries what their stance on gay marriage is.
Drop the holy crusade against gay Americans and I bet no one would care if an uptight baker refused to bake a cake
 

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Why the pushback though? Why is it so damaging to care about how your comments can hurt others? Geez, I made some comments about my own family not trying to progress as people....and BAM I'm labeled as anti-rural and anti-country. I from Pinch, WV. I didn't mean such an attack on a group the encompasses myself, and there is nothing elitist about me at all. But I'll be more careful the next time I address the issue, as I should be.

I think combating racism and sexism has long been a rallying cry of the left. Progressive attitudes, breaking from tradition, tolerance and understanding through education...these are liberal principles. I'm not saying we aren't seeing a change in some fundamentals in both parties, but it's been that way for some time.
Should have pushed back a long time ago personally. However, the pushback is coming from people saying "I'm tired of being labeled as something I'm not because I disagree with your approach to a specific issue".