Trump loses again

moe

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Jury awards EJC $83.3M Add that to the $5M he already owed her. [thumbsup]
 

bornaneer

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All he has to do is stop attacking her
You mean by defending himself by saying she is a liar? Why did this women wait almost 30 years to say Trump did something to her ?

His denial resulted in Carroll slapping Trump with a defamation lawsuit where she was asking for 12 million....what a joke.

Trump has repeatedly said that he has "absolutely no idea who this woman is."
 

sammyk

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You mean by defending himself by saying she is a liar? Why did this women wait almost 30 years to say Trump did something to her ?

His denial resulted in Carroll slapping Trump with a defamation lawsuit where she was asking for 12 million....what a joke.

Trump has repeatedly said that he has "absolutely no idea who this woman is."
So I see you are ok with raping a woman and then attacking her. Wonder if you felt that way if it were your mom. Well it’s Donny so I bet your would
 

bornaneer

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Why would Trump go into a woman's dressing room in the first place when he is so famous and would be noticed by many?
Men are seldom if ever in the women's dressing room area and if they are they stick out like a sore thumb.

Where are the witnesses to this assault? There are always lines going into women’s dressing rooms.

Screams, no witnesses, no notification to store employees, no calling the police. If someone is attacked they would surely tell the employees so that no other woman is attacked. This woman is either lying or delusional.

Totally political. People are found liable in the deaths of people in car accidents and don't get awarded this kind of settlement. This is not justice. This is a railroad job in a kangaroo court.
 

bornaneer

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So I see you are ok with raping a woman and then attacking her. Wonder if you felt that way if it were your mom. Well it’s Donny so I bet your would
Noooooooooo......the earlier trial jury said Trump was NOT GUILTY OF RAPE.
You need to do your homework.
 

bornaneer

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So I see you are ok with raping a woman and then attacking her. Wonder if you felt that way if it were your mom. Well it’s Donny so I bet your would
Look....Over the years I have posted hundreds comments that stated Trump should should SHUT HIS MOUTH.....but I do call it like it is.
 

bornaneer

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Bornaneer always hustles to the board to defend Donnie no matter the crime. He's a very loyal cult follower.
"Loyaln cult follower" ....Laughable. I do defend when necessary. You are smart enough to know what this is about.
 

ThePunish-EER

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"Loyaln cult follower" ....Laughable. I do defend when necessary. You are smart enough to know what this is about.
Take a moment away from moetard lol. I know you always say you get the presidential election correct. I always occasionally come back to ask you who at the moment would win. Who you got in November 2024 now?
 

bornaneer

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Take a moment away from moetard lol. I know you always say you get the presidential election correct. I always occasionally come back to ask you who at the moment would win. Who you got in November 2024 now?
Biden...Trump cannot overcome all the the incoming...The Dems are just laying low...You ain't seen nothing yet.
Plus the Repubs are in total disarray.
 

atlkvb

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Biden...Trump cannot overcome all the the incoming...The Dems are just laying low...You ain't seen nothing yet.
Plus the Repubs are in total disarray.
Biden doesn't look well to me. I mean physically. He looks like a truck ran over him, backed up, and ran over him again! He won't make it to November. Trump will win this thing in a landslide. I've never seen people as pissed off as they are now.
 

Soaring Eagle 74

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Why would Trump go into a woman's dressing room in the first place when he is so famous and would be noticed by many?
Men are seldom if ever in the women's dressing room area and if they are they stick out like a sore thumb.

Where are the witnesses to this assault? There are always lines going into women’s dressing rooms.

Screams, no witnesses, no notification to store employees, no calling the police. If someone is attacked they would surely tell the employees so that no other woman is attacked. This woman is either lying or delusional.

Totally political. People are found liable in the deaths of people in car accidents and don't get awarded this kind of settlement. This is not justice. This is a railroad job in a kangaroo court.
Well, he went in the dressing room to have sex with EJC. That was proven in court previously. We’ve seen recently that he has no control of himself. He had an impulse, he acted on it.
 

ThePunish-EER

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Biden...Trump cannot overcome all the the incoming...The Dems are just laying low...You ain't seen nothing yet.
Plus the Repubs are in total disarray.
I think in an honest election, Trump wins in a complete landslide not seen since Reagan took 49 out of 50 states. That said, I think Biden “wins”. I’ve said it all along. They will NOT allow him back in the WH.
 

atlkvb

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I think in an honest election, Trump wins in a complete landslide not seen since Reagan took 49 out of 50 states. That said, I think Biden “wins”. I’ve said it all along. They will NOT allow him back in the WH.
Landslide coming. Unless they kill him.
 

atlkvb

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Well, he went in the dressing room to have sex with EJC. That was proven in court previously. We’ve seen recently that he has no control of himself. He had an impulse, he acted on it.
Wonder how many WH interns he had under the big Oak desk giving him a Lewinski? Oh, never mind. Even if he did, it was only Sex...so what, who cares? Right? :rolleyes:

If it weren't for double standards, you Leftists would have no standard at all.
 

atlkvb

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Good luck and getting a nickel from Donny. I mean just ask Guliani
What about the "porn star"? Didn't she end up owing him money after it was proven she lied about him 'defaming' her? 🤔
 

atlkvb

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I never worry about things I have zero control over...it is what it is.
He's worried though. Desperate in fact. Delusional. Defeated. Depressed. Oh and I forgot...demented too! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

bornaneer

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Well, he went in the dressing room to have sex with EJC. That was proven in court previously. We’ve seen recently that he has no control of himself. He had an impulse, he acted on it.
How was it "proven" and by whom....the women ? No witnesses ever put Trump in the area.
 

Mitch D.

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So I see you are ok with raping a woman and then attacking her. Wonder if you felt that way if it were your mom. Well it’s Donny so I bet your would
So I see you are o.k. with falsely accusing a person of rape just to win an election.

Wonder if you'd feel that way if it was your dad?
 

Mitch D.

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Biden...Trump cannot overcome all the the incoming...The Dems are just laying low...You ain't seen nothing yet.
Plus the Repubs are in total disarray.
Nah, Biden is losing the traditional Dem supporters.
 

Mitch D.

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Well, he went in the dressing room to have sex with EJC. That was proven in court previously. We’ve seen recently that he has no control of himself. He had an impulse, he acted on it.
..and Bill Clinton had sex in the Oval Office...so apparently that proves he's a rapist too?
 

sammyk

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So I see you are o.k. with falsely accusing a person of rape just to win an election.

Wonder if you'd feel that way if it was your dad?
So maybe all of this comes down to this. Maybe Trump just did all of this crap. I mean he pays the victim what a joke that is
 

atlkvb

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Whoa whoa whoa is Clinton running for president now ???????
Is Biden?

Hey I resent that!

Well even if you are creepy Joe, no one really wants 'ya to!

CNN poll: 75% of Democratic voters want someone other than Biden in '24

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The poll shows a sharp downturn in enthusiasm for a 2024 reelection bid by the President. In January/February, 51% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters said they wanted someone other than Biden to be the Democratic nominee in 2024. The poll comes as Biden’s approval ratings remain low and most Americans are discontented with the state of the country and the economy.
 

moe

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Inventing "Donny the rapist". Even nicer job
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll. After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to
prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”
Kaplan also flatly rejected the Trump team’s suggestion that the conduct Trump was found liable for might have been as limited as groping of the breasts.

The reason? Trump was not accused of that, so the only alleged offense that would have qualified as “sexual abuse” was forced digital penetration. Beyond that, Trump was accused of putting his mouth on Carroll’s mouth and pulling down her tights, which Kaplan noted were not treated as alleged sexual abuse at trial.

“The jury’s finding of sexual abuse therefore necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her ******,” Kaplan wrote, calling it the “only remaining conclusion.”
Kaplan also noted that the verdict form did not ask the jury to decide exactly what conduct Trump had committed, and that neither prosecutors nor Trump’s lawyers had requested it to do so.

“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.
He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”
 

bamaEER

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Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll. After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to
prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”
Kaplan also flatly rejected the Trump team’s suggestion that the conduct Trump was found liable for might have been as limited as groping of the breasts.

The reason? Trump was not accused of that, so the only alleged offense that would have qualified as “sexual abuse” was forced digital penetration. Beyond that, Trump was accused of putting his mouth on Carroll’s mouth and pulling down her tights, which Kaplan noted were not treated as alleged sexual abuse at trial.

“The jury’s finding of sexual abuse therefore necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her ******,” Kaplan wrote, calling it the “only remaining conclusion.”
Kaplan also noted that the verdict form did not ask the jury to decide exactly what conduct Trump had committed, and that neither prosecutors nor Trump’s lawyers had requested it to do so.

“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.
He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”
Yes, he did rape her. There is no legal question about this.
 

Soaring Eagle 74

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..and Bill Clinton had sex in the Oval Office...so apparently that proves he's a rapist too?
First,
..and Bill Clinton had sex in the Oval Office...so apparently that proves he's a rapist too?
Apparently you don’t understand what constitutes rape Mitch.
  1. The crime of using force or the threat of force to compel a person to submit to sexual intercourse.
  2. The crime of using force or threat of force to compel a person to submit to some other sexual penetration.
  3. Other unlawful sexual intercourse or penetration, as with an unconscious person or person below the age of or incapable of consent.
“And Lewinsky doesn’t identify as someone who was assaulted at all. In this case, she’s recounting what she perceived to be a consensual affair, and it’s not anyone else’s place to tell her she’s wrong.”

You do understand that if Bill Clinton did rape someone, that doesn’t make it ok that Trump raped someone. Or maybe you don’t.