Trump Administration Updates

TigerGrowls

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Winning.



🚨 BREAKING — absolutely massive.
In a razor-thin 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court just gave President Trump sweeping wartime authority under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

That means Tren de Aragua — now officially labeled an invasion force — can be rounded up and deported directly to El Salvador’s mega-prison.

This is historic.
This changes everything.
 
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dpic73

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This is silly dpic. While I will admit that tariffs may increase a few costs there is no way that anywhere near most of it is. The inflation stats do not a support your tds affected opinion.
Who will be paying the trillions that you speak of?
 

baltimorened

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So we're giving him credit for lowering costs by removing his own tariffs? Is that correct? If not, what else is the trade deal doing to lower costs on coffee/beef/bananas?
yes, it seems as if you're correct. I expect that with affordability as the new political direction, we'll see more tariffs reduced.
 
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Dpic....its funny how your brain works when anything is related to Trump. The tariffs stuff will become a moot point also as companies start producing stuff in the US to beat the tariffs over the next few years. Inflation is under co trol whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
 

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Dpic....its funny how your brain works when anything is related to Trump. The tariffs stuff will become a moot point also as companies start producing stuff in the US to beat the tariffs over the next few years. Inflation is under co trol whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
Are you telling me American citizens aren't paying more for products from countries with tariffs? Trump is a lame duck so despite what you believe, many companies will drag their feet until he's out of office, but if they do move their factories here, costs for goods will go even higher. This does not address the affordability crisis.

Adidas, Walmart, Home Depot, and other major brands that say Trump's tariffs are pushing them to raise prices​

 

baltimorened

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So the only way he’s potentially lowering costs is by dropping the tariffs he added?
I get your point, but that statement might be little simplistic. We've lowered gas prices...I'm not sure enough about oil prices to make a definitive statements. That, by itself, lowers costs, or should, across a variety of items and or expenses.: lowered cost of driving back and forth to work, lower cost for Amazon, food, Walmart, deliveries, farmer expenses etc.

Being totally honest, IMO, people are disappointed in economic results to this point in the Trump administration. Folks believed that prices would drop on day one, which was not true, has never happened in the history of the country, and is opposite of what has happened after periods of high inflation. Then, tariffs were imposed just as some costs were coming down creating a period of uncertainty which hasn't helped the cost curve.

Housing costs are down, but that's not because of trump's actions. It's more reflective of a switch from sellers to buyers market which is caused, IMO, because of consumers economic concerns as much as interest rates and the fact that so many people have 2-2.5% mortgages and aren't giving them up.

I posted once before that I think MTG was right in calling Trump to task over his America first agenda. He has spent, seemingly, more time on international affairs at the expense of the United States. The Mamdani election was a wake up call and might end up being good for the rest of the country if it causes a shift in emphasis. There's a lot that can be done in reducing inflation and costs, healthcare, immigration in the rest of Trump's term. And he'd better get it done quickly because if democrats take back either house or Senate, anything that Trump proposes, even if it's good for the country, will be DOA.
 

TigerGrowls

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Are you telling me American citizens aren't paying more for products from countries with tariffs? Trump is a lame duck so despite what you believe, many companies will drag their feet until he's out of office, but if they do move their factories here, costs for goods will go even higher. This does not address the affordability crisis.

Adidas, Walmart, Home Depot, and other major brands that say Trump's tariffs are pushing them to raise prices​

I do not care if dome prices go up. There will be cheaper domestically produced alternatives in most cases. Inflation is steady. The facts are there to see. The govt needs this revenue too.
 

UrHuckleberry

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I get your point, but that statement might be little simplistic. We've lowered gas prices...I'm not sure enough about oil prices to make a definitive statements. That, by itself, lowers costs, or should, across a variety of items and or expenses.: lowered cost of driving back and forth to work, lower cost for Amazon, food, Walmart, deliveries, farmer expenses etc.

Being totally honest, IMO, people are disappointed in economic results to this point in the Trump administration. Folks believed that prices would drop on day one, which was not true, has never happened in the history of the country, and is opposite of what has happened after periods of high inflation. Then, tariffs were imposed just as some costs were coming down creating a period of uncertainty which hasn't helped the cost curve.

Housing costs are down, but that's not because of trump's actions. It's more reflective of a switch from sellers to buyers market which is caused, IMO, because of consumers economic concerns as much as interest rates and the fact that so many people have 2-2.5% mortgages and aren't giving them up.

I posted once before that I think MTG was right in calling Trump to task over his America first agenda. He has spent, seemingly, more time on international affairs at the expense of the United States. The Mamdani election was a wake up call and might end up being good for the rest of the country if it causes a shift in emphasis. There's a lot that can be done in reducing inflation and costs, healthcare, immigration in the rest of Trump's term. And he'd better get it done quickly because if democrats take back either house or Senate, anything that Trump proposes, even if it's good for the country, will be DOA.
I was responding on a specific topic.
 

UrHuckleberry

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yea, I know. But .....
I mainly just think creating a problem and then celebrating when you remove that problem, and then your followers celebrating with effusive praise is just too much man. If the tweets, posts, whatever were nuanced and acknowledged the issue at the heart of the prices rising for those items, but talked about overall strategy, I wouldn't respond. But the North Korea style cabinet meetings and then these type tweets kill me. For people like myself that don't hate things simply because they originate with Trump or his administration, those type of over the top posts/tweets/statements make me not even want to acknowledge when that is the case.
 
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I mainly just think creating a problem and then celebrating when you remove that problem, and then your followers celebrating with effusive praise is just too much man. If the tweets, posts, whatever were nuanced and acknowledged the issue at the heart of the prices rising for those items, but talked about overall strategy, I wouldn't respond. But the North Korea style cabinet meetings and then these type tweets kill me. For people like myself that don't hate things simply because they originate with Trump or his administration, those type of over the top posts/tweets/statements make me not even want to acknowledge when that is the case.
you mean you don't like those cabinet meetings? There's a large part of me that really hopes we're only seeing the "kiss the President's a--" part of the meeting. There has to be some substance discussed...doesn't there?
 

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Dpic....its funny how your brain works when anything is related to Trump. The tariffs stuff will become a moot point also as companies start producing stuff in the US to beat the tariffs over the next few years. Inflation is under co trol whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
But if the point was for companies to start producing stuff in the U.S., that's simply not going to happen as Trump always chickens out and is reversing order on his tariffs left and right. So he created a problem, he's solving the problem by rolling back tariffs, and your thesis (producing stuff in the U.S. as an outcome of tariffs) aren't going to happen, as he's rolling the tariffs back.

The tariff's are solving nothing, not even your intended long term hope
 
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But if the point was for companies to start producing stuff in the U.S., that's simply not going to happen as Trump always chickens out and is reversing order on his tariffs left and right. So he created a problem, he's solving the problem by rolling back tariffs, and your thesis (producing stuff in the U.S. as an outcome of tariffs) aren't going to happen, as he's rolling the tariffs back.

The tariff's are solving nothing, not even your intended long term hope
well, if we're being fair, we probably should wait a little while to determine what gets produced and what is smoke and mirrors. I would expect that some of the promises will occur and some won't. Kind of like Foxcom in Wisconsin.
 

UrHuckleberry

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you mean you don't like those cabinet meetings? There's a large part of me that really hopes we're only seeing the "kiss the President's a--" part of the meeting. There has to be some substance discussed...doesn't there?
In fairness, there may be things discussed after the required butt kissing speechs, but those are the clips I've seen.
 

dpic73

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But if the point was for companies to start producing stuff in the U.S., that's simply not going to happen as Trump always chickens out and is reversing order on his tariffs left and right. So he created a problem, he's solving the problem by rolling back tariffs, and your thesis (producing stuff in the U.S. as an outcome of tariffs) aren't going to happen, as he's rolling the tariffs back.

The tariff's are solving nothing, not even your intended long term hope
Not only that but if all companies did relocate their factories here, there would be no tariff income that Growls claims the government desperately needs.
 
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I mainly just think creating a problem and then celebrating when you remove that problem, and then your followers celebrating with effusive praise is just too much man. If the tweets, posts, whatever were nuanced and acknowledged the issue at the heart of the prices rising for those items, but talked about overall strategy, I wouldn't respond. But the North Korea style cabinet meetings and then these type tweets kill me. For people like myself that don't hate things simply because they originate with Trump or his administration, those type of over the top posts/tweets/statements make me not even want to acknowledge when that is the case.
"I mainly just think creating a problem and then celebrating when you remove that problem":

Will you agree that Ole Joe let this country be overrun with illegals?
 
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"I mainly just think creating a problem and then celebrating when you remove that problem":

Will you agree that Ole Joe let this country be overrun with illegals?
So 1. how are those two things connected?

But to answer your unrelated question, I don't think that Joe Biden did a good job on the border. No.
 

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Trump now openly endorsing the execution of political enemies, but nah he's not a fascist. Anybody who voted for this man should be ashamed.
 

Allornothing

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So 1. how are those two things connected?

But to answer your unrelated question, I don't think that Joe Biden did a good job on the border. No.
That is what dems do. They create a problem and then the gov't is supposed to come in and fix it with our tax dollars.

Were you asleep the past 2 months "Rip Van UrHuckleberry"? The gov't shutdown was due to trying to prop up another failed liberal policy. The Affordable Care Act. (Obamacare) Problem is, people can't afford it.

ZERO pubs voted for it, so the fallout is all on dems.

P.S. If you have any questions, you can call Nancy Pelosi and she can explain to you what's in the bill since it has been passed. What you think Nan:
 
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That is what dems do. They create a problem and then the gov't is supposed to come in and fix it with our tax dollars.

Were you asleep the past 2 months "Rip Van UrHuckleberry"? The gov't shutdown was due to trying to prop up another failed liberal policy. The Affordable Care Act. (Obamacare) Problem is, people can't afford it.

ZERO pubs voted for it, so the fallout is all on dems.

P.S. If you have any questions, you can call Nancy Pelosi and she can explain to you what's in the bill since it has been passed. What you think Nan:

I was speaking to someone creating an issue completely of their own, and then solving that issue and running victory laps.
 

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So you have nothing to say about what I posted whatsoever?
It just doesn't at all relate to what I was talking about. It's just more trying to get me to answer for every grievance or issue on the left. I don't agree with everything on either side, so I don't particularly like playing those games. Have never been a Pelosi fan (even less so for Schumer). My calling out Trump for taking credit for solving an issue he created isn't me saying that the left is perfect. Have a good one.
 
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But if the point was for companies to start producing stuff in the U.S., that's simply not going to happen as Trump always chickens out and is reversing order on his tariffs left and right. So he created a problem, he's solving the problem by rolling back tariffs, and your thesis (producing stuff in the U.S. as an outcome of tariffs) aren't going to happen, as he's rolling the tariffs back.

The tariff's are solving nothing, not even your intended long term hope
Adjustments are not permanent. Related to beef they need to get the domestic herd increased for instance and that takes time. Tariffs are a tool to impose US interests and to generate revenue.
 

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Not only that but if all companies did relocate their factories here, there would be no tariff income that Growls claims the government desperately needs.
Yes but you have jobs and domestic tax revenue in its place. Come on man.
 

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Yes but you have jobs and domestic tax revenue in its place. Come on man.
If we move all manufacturing here, we replace tariff revenue with high prices. A t-shirt that cost $5 might now cost $25 to cover American wages. Sure, we have the jobs, but if our cost of living doubles, that tax revenue doesn't help the average person buy groceries. We'd be taxing ourselves through inflation.

OR

The companies that move here would use robots to keep the costs down.
 

TigerGrowls

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If we move all manufacturing here, we replace tariff revenue with high prices. A t-shirt that cost $5 might now cost $25 to cover American wages. Sure, we have the jobs, but if our cost of living doubles, that tax revenue doesn't help the average person buy groceries. We'd be taxing ourselves through inflation.

OR

The companies that move here would use robots to keep the costs down.
Jobs for Americans is the top.priority. While nothing is perfect the Trump strategy is better for the American people and better for national security. The first rare earth magnet produced in the US in over 25 years was made in Sumter SC per Scott Bessent tonight on the Ingraham Angle. Im sure the residents of Sumter are happy with his strategy.
 
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Jobs for Americans is the top.priority. While nothing is perfect the Trump strategy is better for the American people and better for national security. The first rare earth magnet produced in the US in over 25 years was made in Sumter SC per Scott Bessent tonight on the Ingraham Angle. Im sure the residents of Sumter are happy with his strategy.
I dunno, sounds polarizing. Hope it sticks.
 
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