Trigger Warning!!! This is a Politi article!!

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Greg was asked about the QB contest and he said that there was nothing major to report because the spring game was just an exhibition for the fans, and there were only a couple weeks of practices.

K's plays that I saw- he had zero pressure and all day to make basic throws. GW on the other had had three catchable passes in a row dropped after hitting receivers in the hands/chest.

GW ran for two TDs and passed for one. Greek passed for two. The parts about GW getting blown away in spring exhibition game are malarkey.

Last year RU couldn't pass long (no blocking for it GS said) and the WR corp was substantially worse than RU's BE days. Eli Manning was a terrible short passer and had tons of INTs and misses because of it. His passes sailed all the time and his short passes sucked from his first year. The loss of his viable OLs made him have to throw short again and he was bad again.

"In 2013, Eli Manning had the sixth-lowest completion percentage among 37 qualifying quarterbacks. And after factoring in and/or ruling out a slew of additional metrics, Pro Football Focus (subscription required) actually concluded that the two-time Super Bowl MVP was the least accurate qualifying passer in the NFL."

Bleacher Report

"At the root of the quarterback problem in New York is a distinct stylistic difference between Manning’s strengths and Head Coach Ben McAdoo’s offense. Manning simply isn’t an accurate enough passer at the underneath level to execute it efficiently...It is the crux of the problem for the Giants offense. The core tenet the passing game is built around, their quarterback can’t execute. All the other issues are just window dressing … really ugly window dressing."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-giants-offense-sure-looks-like-eli-manning/

That's what makes me think the decision who the starter would be was made the day AK enrolled. Because it is impossible to assess a player in spring practices and the spring game to determine the starter. I think that the OC wanted AK, maybe there is some loyalty there. Minnesota gave up on AK.

 

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The biggest improvement that I remember in a QB was Gary Nova. His last year he looked like a different QB.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

"First - there is no such thing as "the players." Some players and units will see something one way and others another way. I was on a college football team with 100 guys on it. You can play all season with guys you don't know their full names or even talk to them. Players and coaches have favs and vice versa. I knew great players who never got on the field because a coaches pet scrub was starting for future recruiting reasons.

I can guarantee there are players who dont buy the "Gopher really shined in spring exhibition game and GW was awful" scenario. GW had a lot of friends on team and Gopher was a fav of an overrated coach who was part of RUs 2010 and left Minn offense a mess. "Third year is the mastery" lol.

Ball control is easy when offense has one hand behind its back. GS's defense are fun but his offenses suck - Ray Rice made him back in the day. Could never beat WV and RU kickers own the red zone because downs 1-3 were usually futile. Last year RU could finally block for run but still not for long asses (GS said).

A QB with 20 combined TDs wasn't killing a season. His "best" WR a 5th yr guy with 468 yds and 3 TDs (none - 0 - after mid September). That pretty lame in B1G (would have been bad for BE too) and Minn guy was miles better.

I could see GW being replaced by a real upgrade but that's not what RU got. One Kia replaced another Kia. QB is more than an arm/eyes throwing to hands/legs. A lot goes on between DBs and WRs. Often a QB is supposed to throw a sketchy, hard to catch ball. Most fans dont even know what a Sid Gilman decision tree is and take a simpistic view of the position. Obviously even NFL HCs dont do well with QBs either so its not so unsual GS still does so bad at it 20 years in.

A high ranked QB would be nuts to come to RU even more now. Sitkowski, DC, Savage, GW - annoited heroes who never got to bloosom at RU - time to stop blaming the players. Dodd was better than all of them but could barely get on the field despite winning BE player of the week after 1st start . Five INTs but starter couldn't get him in (think RU players did care about 5 INTs twice?).

People should watch Stephon Gilmour explain what goes on beteen the snap and pass

Stephon Gilmore Breaks Down His Technique & How to be an ELITE DB​

So.. running down our current starting QB and coaches who made that decision are a viable option in arguing a point for you? Just shows you cannot provide a viable argument FOR keeping GW as the starter based on any facts.. you can only run down the guy the coaches chose to replace him.

Weak. Negative selling is always weak.

 

[Eagleton95.99]

That's what makes me think the decision who the starter would be was made the day AK enrolled. Because it is impossible to assess a player in spring practices and the spring game to determine the starter. I think that the OC wanted AK, maybe there is some loyalty there. Minnesota gave up on AK.

Somethings you can assess, and some you can’t. Like it’s really hard to assess decision-making and how a player will respond under pressure in the spring. But you can certainly assess things like accuracy in the spring.

 

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That's what makes me think the decision who the starter would be was made the day AK enrolled. Because it is impossible to assess a player in spring practices and the spring game to determine the starter. I think that the OC wanted AK, maybe there is some loyalty there. Minnesota gave up on AK.

Somethings you can assess, and some you can’t. Like it’s really hard to assess decision-making and how a player will respond under pressure in the spring. But you can certainly assess things like accuracy in the spring.

I think the assessment here was on Gavin.

With the hope he showed some improvement in whatever the staff was looking for.