There's a 90s party going on in the AD and they don't want it to end. If the University doesn't care about winning why should we?
Trev needs to be fired immediately
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Disagree, OP. Trev Alberts defeated Scott Frost today with the new contract. That means Frost has to produce next year or he is gone and Trev was able to save millions and millions of dollars that can now be spent on a better coaching staff after the 2022 season if Frost doesn't win.
OP, you, others and I can agree Frost should be fired, but what Trev got via the new contract, I consider that a massive win in getting Frost fired eventually (if he losses).
OP, you, others and I can agree Frost should be fired, but what Trev got via the new contract, I consider that a massive win in getting Frost fired eventually (if he losses).
This is an analytical move, think Cowboys trading Herschel Walker to Vikings for a boat load of draft picks.
Trev said he'd do what's best for the University, and at this point in time, this is the right decision and what's best for NU.
I think it's cute that you think Alberts was the one who really made this decision. There are people that would have to fund that $20M buyout. They pull the strings and Alberts is just a puppet.
I am sure they sent him on his way to get a better buyout so if it happens next year the cost will be less.
If you really want to point your anger in the right place, look to Moos. Go find him in Eastern Wa and punch his drunk, smiling, ranch man face.
Dude. There is no perfect answer. The Easy button only exists in Staples commercials. But patience in this scenario will pay off, either literally with the buyout, or figuratively with better on-field success.
Why even ask. His answer one post will be 1 thing and then the next thread it will another and then everything in-between. Does it matter what homeboy says?
WestCoastCornHuskers2 for AD!
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Trev made the right call, and likely the only reasonable call. I'm disappointed as hell in Frost, but we have to trust the process. I know its probably not even fair to make comparisons but with Pelini you would go into a big game just knowing you were likely to be embarrassed. Frost this year has shown that we can compete with anyone, though the losses are heartbreaking.
Now we need to see the growth in year 5, where we turn those heartbreaking 1 TD game losses into wins. Maybe not all of them, but the ones where we should be in position to win, we need to.
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Trev made the right call, and likely the only reasonable call. I'm disappointed as hell in Frost, but we have to trust the process. I know its probably not even fair to make comparisons but with Pelini you would go into a big game just knowing you were likely to be embarrassed. Frost this year has shown that we can compete with anyone, though the losses are heartbreaking.
Now we need to see the growth in year 5, where we turn those heartbreaking 1 TD game losses into wins. Maybe not all of them, but the ones where we should be in position to win, we need to.
Alberts is a puppet only if he consents to being a puppet.
The Athletic Director has full responsibilty for all AD personnel and is delegated final say as to the employment status of any such person, including coaches. Alberts only answers to the President of UNL. Wealthy outside actors may seek to influence his decisions but in the end, it is his decision alone.
I will not deny that money/big donations have a massive influence on an AD's decision-making process. I tend to agree with you that money appears to be a key factor in the decision to retain Frost. However, Alberts was not ordered to do anything. He chose this course of action. It is his decision alone and he cannot blame someone else if it does not work out.
Maybe he isn't a puppet. But he sure as heck is depending on others for the buyout.
Not saying he would have fired Frost, but without funding he would have had no choice.
And again the fanbase should meltdown today. This is really bad news. There is no other blueblood or even wannabe blue blood program that would have kept a coach with his record through 4 years
yes, Nebraska will easily take a > $31,500,000 financial hit next year with half empty stadium.
+ Add in lower Booster donations and permanent brand damage(University encouraged fan apathy), could easily cost us way way more in present value terms.
Not getting blown out by Ohio state really isnt that special when you cant beat anyone else either. Being 1-8 means you dont get to big games to get blown out in. We are a last place team. That is far worse than pelini. Far worse than anyone.
Always reasonable to hitch your wagon to a coach with a 15-27 record and a top 80 recruiting class.
Yep that is the thing that doesnt get talked about nearly enough. You lose the money when the product is horrible. There is a reason coaches get big buyouts. It is better to pay them than have a scrappy program that loses money
Permanent brand damage…If that’s the case I guess this will be your last post, I take it?
or I’ll see you again shortly
You decide
My guess is that I’ll see you again shortly
I remember how pathetic it was that CU brought back Dan Hawkins for a 5th year. Today, we are even more pathetic.
Nobody should be melting down. Pretend for a second that your an adult. Or don't and wring your hands, I don’t care one way or the other.
So sorry this is happening to you.
Unless the contract provided otherwise, paying out the remaining compensation is usually structured over years and not lump sum. The University could easily budget a 4-6 year buyout of $20M if it wanted to do so.
go be an iowa fan.
if Trev is willing to go with Frost another year, so should we. You dont know the terms of the restructured contract, or the terms that ARENT in the contract (which there likely are)
I think it depends entirely on what happens next year. The team has some talent and next year's recruiting class wouldn't have impacted the play next year regardless of the quality given they would all be freshman. If he can somehow find a way to win with the talent he already has next year then the damage will likely be limited and recruiting should start picking up again. If the team again falters then it will be a much bigger problem because it will add another year of lackluster recruiting to this process making for 2-3 bad classes in a row and setting up the next staff for a rough go and likely another 3-4 years similar to the previous 5. It was going to get ugly before it gets better if they fired Frost anyway. Giving him another year to figure things out was the only option that wouldn't guarantee another 20 mill out the door and a few more years of losing football.
You're the Iowa fan, you are the one the supports losing. You are the one that supports wholeheartedly a **** show of coaching performance 4 years in a row.
Everybody wanted Trev strung up by his balls when he killed off both football and national-championship-winning wrestling programs at UNO. In retrospect it seems to have been a good decision. Basketball and hockey are way more sustainable for a commuter school like UNO.
Maybe Trev took the same rational, emotionless approach to Nebraska football. The revolving door approach hasn't worked so far. Maybe there is a plan in place to improve the situation already in place.
If the entire assistant coaching staff returns next year, then we'll know Trev should have been fired. I doubt that will happen.
Maybe Trev took the same rational, emotionless approach to Nebraska football. The revolving door approach hasn't worked so far. Maybe there is a plan in place to improve the situation already in place.
If the entire assistant coaching staff returns next year, then we'll know Trev should have been fired. I doubt that will happen.
You're kinda upset. You might be better off taking off the rest of the season as a fan and come back next year with a clean record. Maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised.
OP is asserting that permanent damage has already occurred by extending Frost
Your point exactly
You have to let next year play out
I also think what Frost has done up to this point is unacceptable. However, I keep an open mind as a Nebraska fan
I’m looking to see the terms of the renegotiated contract, look to see what Frost does in the off-season
As we’ve seen with this team we’ll know by our first quality opponent in 2022 what we’re working with
To assert that permanent damage has occurred without knowing all the facts of the renegotiated contract and seeing the product on field is premature and asinine
No, I’m supporting the program. I have said many times this season they needed to be fired. That drama is over, so I’m on board with Trev’s decision.
I have zero ties to the Huskers other than being born and raised in Nebraska.
same amount of ties to Creighton.
I went to NWMSU, and “we” won multiple NCs when I was there.
Premature, 4 freaking years of being a **** show coaching performance! What's asinine is supporting and accepting losing as a regular course of business going forward. They don't care about winning anymore. Only empty stadiums will force a change. Who knows when that starts.
The silver lining is it cant get much worse. I mean literally, he brings in an entire new offensive staff next year, and Adrian moves on (God willing)....there's no way we are a worse football team. As the saying goes "close" only counts in horse shoes and hand gernades so the fact that we have been in so many close games can only appease for so long. I refuse to believe we will lose more games next year with more experienced staff, even with everyone adjusting to the new people and new coaching styles etc etc.
Good point,
" Look around Hellen, we're on the threshold of hell, how can it possibly get any worse?"
I don’t think there is any chance Adrian is back now. New oc and new qb coach. May grad transfer somewhere if he decides to keep playing. With his injury history, he may just hang it up.