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RUChoppin

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So, I've set up a tool where I can reload/refresh data off of the VerbalCommits site so I can do some slicing into who's out there in the portal. I've also pulled in some other lookup information, such as the conferences of the schools, whether the school has a coaching change, whether the players appeared in the Rivals150 out of HS, and whether their current team appeared in the Tournament. Some of that latter stuff was done manually, so there might be a gap here or there.

1197 players in the portal, and 249 are already showing a New School (this may be a bit understated - there are two tables on the VC site, one for "recent updates" and one for "complete transfer list".... the "complete" list sometimes lags in picking up the data in the "recent" list for New School info).

*If a player enters the portal, then returns to their new school, their name just disappears - it doesn't show their current school as their new school. I could probably build something to track changes in the data so I don't lose those players, but may be more effort than it's worth. Suffice to say anyone in the list is still seeking other opportunities.

Some interesting items I've found so far:
- 334 players would not have any more eligibility (Sr/RS Sr) if the NCAA hadn't granted an extra year, and 80 have committed elsewhere
- 261 players are leaving a school that has had a coaching change, and 48 have committed elsewhere
- 238 players are leaving schools in a major conference (ACC/B10/B12/BE/P12/SEC), and 62 have committed elsewhere (19 of them to another major conference)
- 167 players are leaving a tournament team (led by 8 from Eastern Washington), and 30 have committed elsewhere
- 8 tournament teams have no players in the portal [Gonzaga (still playing), Baylor (still playing), UCLA, Michigan, Alabama, USC, UC Santa Barbara, and Cleveland St]
- 94 players had appeared in a Rivals150 list when exiting HS, and 38 have committed elsewhere

Superlatives:
- UT Martin has the most players in the portal with 15 (followed by Portland with 13, Albany and Jacksonville with 10).... all four of these schools had a coaching change, and none made the tournament
- St. John's has the most players in the portal among major conference teams at 8
- Southland Conference has the most players in the portal with 60, while the WAC has the fewest at 20
- Among major conferences, ACC has the most players in the portal at 46, while the B12 has the fewest at 34
- Shortest player in the portal is Darnell Rogers from UMBC, at 5-2
- Tallest player in the portal is a three-way tie at 7-2 between Chol Marial (Maryland), Assane Diouf (Fresno State), and Kuba Karwowski (Utah State)
- 77.8% of players (931) are listed between 6-2 and 6-9
- Lightest player listed (many do not have a weight listed) is Jalen Benjamin from UAB at 140 lbs
- Heaviest player listed is Iran Bennett from Marshall, at 6-9/335 (!!)
- SG lead the list at 29.7% of all portal players, followed by PG at 28.2%, PF at 20.6%, SF at 14.2%, and C at 7.4%
- Highest Rivals rated player in the portal is Walker Kessler (UNC), who was #24 in the 2020 list. Following him is Oscar Tshiebwe (WVU), who was #26 in 2019.

Anything anyone might be interested in knowing?
 

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Also seeing on a period basis amount of people going on/off portal

very interest in supply/demand at various positions
 

RUChoppin

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How many players went on portal only to return to their school?

This is something that the VerbalCommits site unfortunately doesn't track (the asterisk I wrote above). If someone goes back to their school, they just disappear from the data entirely.

Right now I'm just running off the data available on the website and not storing a local copy. If I store a local copy, I could conceivably start capturing if a player disappeared from one load to the next, and put an indicator to show they had withdrawn their name... but it'd only work going forward, which wouldn't be a true number because it would have missed all the names withdrawn already (and I was able to catch one, once, since the overall count dropped between loads, and I was able to find the player that disappeared - Kevion Nolan from Jacksonville, and Google tells me he did return to Jacksonville).
 
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RUChoppin

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Also seeing on a period basis amount of people going on/off portal

very interest in supply/demand at various positions

Data doesn't track the date that they entered their name in the portal in the complete list table, and the recent updates table only has it relative to the last refresh on their end and it falls off after it passes their definition of "recent".

As far as supply/demand at the various positions:
PG: 337 names in portal, 73 have new homes (21.7%)
SG: 355 names in portal, 77 have new homes (21.7%)
SF: 170 names in portal, 32 have new homes (18.8%)
PF: 246 names in portal, 46 have new homes (18.7%)
C: 89 names in portal, 21 have new homes (23.6%)

Of course, this is just the position listed in the portal... if a player is listed as a PF but really plays the 5 for his school, that's not going to show up. Or if the SF really is running the point, also won't show up.
 

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Not in our universe of talent, but I am going to guess there is going to be 300 or so players who realize they made a mistake as there is no home for them. I wonder how many examples there will be of kids who burned a scholarship
 
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RUChoppin

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Not in our universe of talent, but I am going to guess there is going to be 300 or so players who realize they made a mistake as there is no home for them. I wonder how many examples there will be of kids who burned a scholarship

Another thing I've noticed while looking up these players is that many seem to be walkons who didn't have a scholarship in the first place. They are likely looking to see if they can pick up a scholarship offer somewhere in the portal.

For example, UT Martin has 15 players in the portal.... it's impossible that all were on scholarship. Unfortunately, no way to call that out in the data that I've found.
 

RUChoppin

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Some updates:

1243 players in the portal, 283 have committed elsewhere (22.8%)

Highest teams:
16 - UT Martin (holy moly)
13 - Portland
10 - Albany
9 - Green Bay, Kansas City, NC Central, USF, Tennessee State, Texas A&M Corpus Cristi

Highest major conference teams:
8 - DePaul, Minnesota, St. John's
7 - Penn State, Wake Forest
6 - Colorado, Iowa State, Missouri, TCU, Utah, Washington

Supply/demand at the various positions:
PG: 350 names in portal, 82 have new homes (23.4%)
SG: 368 names in portal, 87 have new homes (23.6%)
SF: 174 names in portal, 36 have new homes (20.6%)
PF: 256 names in portal, 54 have new homes (21.1%)
C: 95 names in portal, 27 have new homes (28.4%)

Breakout by eligibility year:
RS Sr/Sr: 24.2%
RS Jr/Jr: 29.0%
RS So/So: 26.9%
RS Fr/Fr: 19.9%
 

BillyC80

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So, I've set up a tool where I can reload/refresh data off of the VerbalCommits site so I can do some slicing into who's out there in the portal. I've also pulled in some other lookup information, such as the conferences of the schools, whether the school has a coaching change, whether the players appeared in the Rivals150 out of HS, and whether their current team appeared in the Tournament. Some of that latter stuff was done manually, so there might be a gap here or there.

1197 players in the portal, and 249 are already showing a New School (this may be a bit understated - there are two tables on the VC site, one for "recent updates" and one for "complete transfer list".... the "complete" list sometimes lags in picking up the data in the "recent" list for New School info).

*If a player enters the portal, then returns to their new school, their name just disappears - it doesn't show their current school as their new school. I could probably build something to track changes in the data so I don't lose those players, but may be more effort than it's worth. Suffice to say anyone in the list is still seeking other opportunities.

Some interesting items I've found so far:
- 334 players would not have any more eligibility (Sr/RS Sr) if the NCAA hadn't granted an extra year, and 80 have committed elsewhere
- 261 players are leaving a school that has had a coaching change, and 48 have committed elsewhere
- 238 players are leaving schools in a major conference (ACC/B10/B12/BE/P12/SEC), and 62 have committed elsewhere (19 of them to another major conference)
- 167 players are leaving a tournament team (led by 8 from Eastern Washington), and 30 have committed elsewhere
- 8 tournament teams have no players in the portal [Gonzaga (still playing), Baylor (still playing), UCLA, Michigan, Alabama, USC, UC Santa Barbara, and Cleveland St]
- 94 players had appeared in a Rivals150 list when exiting HS, and 38 have committed elsewhere

Superlatives:
- UT Martin has the most players in the portal with 15 (followed by Portland with 13, Albany and Jacksonville with 10).... all four of these schools had a coaching change, and none made the tournament
- St. John's has the most players in the portal among major conference teams at 8
- Southland Conference has the most players in the portal with 60, while the WAC has the fewest at 20
- Among major conferences, ACC has the most players in the portal at 46, while the B12 has the fewest at 34
- Shortest player in the portal is Darnell Rogers from UMBC, at 5-2
- Tallest player in the portal is a three-way tie at 7-2 between Chol Marial (Maryland), Assane Diouf (Fresno State), and Kuba Karwowski (Utah State)
- 77.8% of players (931) are listed between 6-2 and 6-9
- Lightest player listed (many do not have a weight listed) is Jalen Benjamin from UAB at 140 lbs
- Heaviest player listed is Iran Bennett from Marshall, at 6-9/335 (!!)
- SG lead the list at 29.7% of all portal players, followed by PG at 28.2%, PF at 20.6%, SF at 14.2%, and C at 7.4%
- Highest Rivals rated player in the portal is Walker Kessler (UNC), who was #24 in the 2020 list. Following him is Oscar Tshiebwe (WVU), who was #26 in 2019.

Anything anyone might be interested in knowing?
Well done Choppin, thanks for your efforts on this. I’d be curious if you could cross-reference the highest rated players in the portal (top 150 out of HS) who played for major conference teams that did and did not make the tournament.
 

RUChoppin

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Well done Choppin, thanks for your efforts on this. I’d be curious if you could cross-reference the highest rated players in the portal (top 150 out of HS) who played for major conference teams that did and did not make the tournament.

There were 76 players who appeared in the Rivals150 out of HS that entered the portal from a major conference teams, and 31 of them have already committed to a new school.

36 of these were on teams that made the tournament this year (15 have committed to new programs), and just 9 of them are coming from teams that had a coaching change. 40 were on teams that did not make the tournament (16 have found new teams).
 
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BillyC80

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There were 76 players who appeared in the Rivals150 out of HS that entered the portal from a major conference teams, and 31 of them have already committed to a new school.

36 of these were on teams that made the tournament this year (15 have committed to new programs), and just 9 of them are coming from teams that had a coaching change. 40 were on teams that did not make the tournament (16 have found new teams).
Thank you! So it’s likely we’ll be going after 3 guys from the uncommitted 45 from this group, of which the 21 who appeared in the tournament may be harder to get.
 

RUChoppin

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Not necessarily. Ratings coming out of high school don't really mean much once players have actual performance to look at at the college level. Some rivals 150 guys never really panned out in college, and are looking for one last shot as seniors. And some two and three-star guys were under the radar coming out of high school, but are in very high demand in the portal after finding success in college.
 
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BillyC80

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Understood. Since you mentioned their Rivals rank I thought it would make an interesting cross-tabulation with the other factors. Thanks for all your work on this.
 

RUChoppin

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What I wish I could do is match the players on the verbal commits data to their stats in the sports-reference data, but the names ate in a different format and can't be matched up without manual look ups
 

RUChoppin

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Can he play OL??? Someone call Fran Brown!!!




Maybe DT?
 
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RUChoppin

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Some updates:

1286 players in the portal, 333 have committed elsewhere (25.9%)

Highest teams:
16 - UT Martin (holy moly)
13 - Portland
10 - Albany, ETSU
9 - Green Bay, Kansas City, NC Central, USF, Tennessee State, Texas A&M Corpus Cristi

Highest major conference teams:
8 - DePaul, Minnesota, St. John's
7 - Penn State, Wake Forest
6 - Colorado, Iowa State, Missouri, TCU, Utah, Washington

Supply/demand at the various positions:
PG: 357 names in portal, 94 have new homes (26.3%)
SG: 385 names in portal, 106 have new homes (27.5%)
SF: 183 names in portal, 40 have new homes (21.9%)
PF: 263 names in portal, 63 have new homes (24.0%)
C: 98 names in portal, 30 have new homes (30.6%)

Breakout by eligibility year:
RS Sr/Sr: 27.0%
RS Jr/Jr: 30.2%
RS So/So: 24.1%
RS Fr/Fr: 18.7%

Breakout by eligibility year (committed only)
RS Sr/Sr: 32.7
RS Jr/Jr: 26.4
RS So/So: 24.6
RS Fr/Fr: 16.1%
 

RUChoppin

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Officially cracked 1300 players in the portal this morning. It had hovered in the 1290s for a while as we'd get a few new names and a few names removed from the portal each day for the last several.

1305 players in the portal, 381 have committed elsewhere (29.2%)
 

RUChoppin

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Been a fair amount of movement in the portal, as more have been committing than entering their names.... 1363 now in the portal and 459 committed (33.7%... up from 20.8% when I first posted this thread 9 days ago)
 

RUChoppin

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More movement.... 1390 in portal and 511 committed (36.8%)

One thing I noticed, too, is that the portal isn't limited to Division I schools. There are 25 players in the portal from Division II schools, all who jumped up to Division I schools. So I guess the portal also registers players who stepped up to Division I?

There have also been 77 Division I players who stepped down to Division II or below.
 
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RUChoppin

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Definitely more players committing than entering the portal the last few days. 1392 are now in the portal and 540 have committed (38.8%)

There are 292 players from major conferences, and 156 of those have committed elsewhere (53.4%)

Supply/demand at the various positions:
PG: 386 names in portal, 144 have new homes (37.3%)
SG: 430 names in portal, 179 have new homes (41.6%)
SF: 189 names in portal, 65 have new homes (34.4%)
PF: 280 names in portal, 104 have new homes (37.1%)
C: 107 names in portal, 48 have new homes (44.9%)
 

RUChoppin

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Up to 1418 players in the portal and 585 have committed elsewhere (41.3%)

Updated the Rivals150 guys, too. Overall, there are 117 guys who had been identified as Rivals150 out of HS, and 75 of them have committed to a new school already. 22 of them were Rivals Top 50 guys (14 of those have committed elsewhere).
 

RUChoppin

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Portal currently sits at 1464 players with 671 committed (45.8%)

308 players have entered from major conferences, and 194 of these have found new homes

241 players have entered from teams that made the tournament this season, and 132 of these have found new homes

86 players have dropped from Div-I to a lower level (including 2 from major conference teams)

31 players have transferred up to Div-I from a Div-II school

Programs with most departing players:
17 - UT Martin
12 - Charleston, Portland
10 - ETSU, Tennessee St, UNLV
9 - DePaul, George Mason, GW, Green Bay, Jacksonville, Kansas City, NC Central, San Diego, South Alabama, USF, St. Bonaventure, Texas A&M, Texas A&M-Corpus Cristi

Programs with most incoming players from the portal:
7 - South Alabama
6 - Minnesota, Robert Morris, Tennessee State, UNLV
5 - Charleston, Duquesne, Grand Canyon, Iowa State, TCU
 

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I may be the only one on here, but I was hoping the coach would take a look at Kevin Marfo. I know this would have been his fourth school, but he did average about 12 rebounds per 40 minutes in his one year at Texas A&M. He is 6‘8“ and 245 pounds and can guard the post or a traditional power forward. I think he would’ve been a good one year depth guy, but I see he’s going back to Quinnipiac.
 

RUChoppin

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Oh, one more item... 395 (27%) of the guys in the portal would have had no eligibility left without the NCAA waiver (Sr or RS Sr status).
 

RUChoppin

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1530 players in the portal, 771 committed (50.4%).... we've officially crossed over that less than half of the names in the portal are still available.
 
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You can call me Nervous Zeb, but I don't like this. As I said elsewhere, I don't think we're going to get much from DR. I think CO will take a step up, but not a "huge leap"; I think coaches will go at him and he'll get quick fouls.
 
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