One thing about Ash he is very smart with these types of things . He will make the right call.
Transfer Candidate: Corey Bolds
- Thread starter JCKnight
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So let’s see out of the top DL out of New Jersey since 2013, a 1 scholarship offer Kemoko Turay was the highest drafted player. See people, that is called “player development”. Once kids realize that Rutgers develops players and get them to the league on a consistent basis, you guys will be alright.
That article is from January 2018
I hope Walker get his Michigan degree but it appears the coach is trying to get rid of him.
Michigan took what...6 NJ kids that year and pretty sure all of them flamed out. Bet Dwumfour is next.
Geez everyone is saying "No" or "Pass", but if a player can help us compete and win in the immediate future, you drop your ego. This is Ash's decision, thank God.
I don't know if Bolds or Walker can help Rutgers, but if it would improve the team, then I don't care what they did as a 17 year old. I'd hope their expereince at the other school humbled them.
I don't know if Bolds or Walker can help Rutgers, but if it would improve the team, then I don't care what they did as a 17 year old. I'd hope their expereince at the other school humbled them.
It may not even matter. Both would have to sit out a year while losing two because the transfer took place within the B1G. I'm not sure Ash or any other B1G coach is willing to give so much for so little in return.
Wrong he would have three years after sitting this year out...
I do not recall Bolds committing to us before signing with them...regardless, how many NJ kids commit to other schools and we still
Try to flip them back to us, why is that any different than a kid who signs somewhere else and then we flip him or just take him as a transfer?
The amount of butt hurt fandom in this board is why I’m glad Coach Ash is a professional and not a “fan” he won’t let hurt feelings stop him from picking up a kid who might be able to contribute or *** quality depth
Look up Zach Mettenberger. He enrolled at Georgia and redshirted in 2009. He was dismissed from the program for violation of team rules. He transfered to Butler Community College and started in 2010. He then enrolled at LSU and started for three seasons.
You're right about HS kids doing two years at a JUCO if they don't qualify for a four-year school, but if you're already at a four-year school and transfer to a JUCO you only have to do one year.
JCKnight , find out if this is true before bashing any Rutgers fan that says Bolds might lose a year of eligibility.
Maybe even address my implication that Bolds was a victim of the roster numbers game aswell as buried deep in depth chart making him possibly nudged out because he couldn't help the Nits the way Franklin felt about his play in practice.
This transfer rule might still be in effect
15.01.5 Intraconference Transfer Rules (effective with tenders signed for 2011–12 and beyond)
A. Pre-Matriculation. A prospective student-athlete who has signed a tender from a Conference institution and has not yet triggered transfer status per NCAA Bylaw 14.5.2 (conditions affecting transfer status), is subject to the following intraconference transfer requirements:
C. Pre- and Post-Matriculation Exceptions
1. Cancellation of Tender due to Inadmissibility. When a prospective student-athlete is inadmissible to the institution for which a tender has been accepted, the tender shall be considered null and void and the intraconference transfer penalty does not apply.
2. Dropped Sport. When a Conference institution drops the student-athlete’s sport in which the student-athlete has participated, the intraconference penalty does not apply.
15.2.C Intraconference transfer.
A student-athlete who signs a summer tender prior to initial enrollment shall be subject to the intraconference transfer rules set forth in 15.01.5. (Revised and effective 5/99; revised and effective 2/20/01; editorial revision 5/20/05; revised and effective 8/1/11).
Maybe even address my implication that Bolds was a victim of the roster numbers game aswell as buried deep in depth chart making him possibly nudged out because he couldn't help the Nits the way Franklin felt about his play in practice.
This transfer rule might still be in effect
15.01.5 Intraconference Transfer Rules (effective with tenders signed for 2011–12 and beyond)
A. Pre-Matriculation. A prospective student-athlete who has signed a tender from a Conference institution and has not yet triggered transfer status per NCAA Bylaw 14.5.2 (conditions affecting transfer status), is subject to the following intraconference transfer requirements:
- 1. Signed National Letter of Intent. A prospective student-athlete who signs a valid National Letter of Intent (NLI) with a Conference institution but subsequently enrolls at an alternate Big Ten institution shall be required to complete one (1) full year of residence at the alternate (i.e., certifying) Big Ten institution and shall be charged with the loss of one (1) season of eligibility in all sports. These penalties shall be applied regardless of any decision made by the NLI Steering Committee on behalf of the prospective student-athlete.
- a. Exception—Complete Release by Signing Institution. If the Big Ten institution at which the prospective student-athlete originally signed the NLI grants a “Complete Release” from the NLI, the prospect shall be permitted to enroll at any other Conference institution without penalty.
- b. Exception—NLI Declared Null and Void. Should the NLI become null and void prior to the prospective student-athlete’s matriculation, the prospective student- athlete shall be free to enroll at any other Conference institution without penalty.
- 2. Signed Tender without National Letter of Intent. A prospective student-athlete that signs a valid tender with a Conference institution but subsequently enrolls at an alternate Big Ten institution shall be required to complete one (1) full academic year of residence at the alternate (i.e., certifying) Big Ten institution and shall be charged with the loss of one (1) season of eligibility in all sports. Upon mutual agreement of the two involved Conference institutions, this penalty shall be waived by the Chair of the Academics and Eligibility Subcommittee.
C. Pre- and Post-Matriculation Exceptions
1. Cancellation of Tender due to Inadmissibility. When a prospective student-athlete is inadmissible to the institution for which a tender has been accepted, the tender shall be considered null and void and the intraconference transfer penalty does not apply.
2. Dropped Sport. When a Conference institution drops the student-athlete’s sport in which the student-athlete has participated, the intraconference penalty does not apply.
15.2.C Intraconference transfer.
A student-athlete who signs a summer tender prior to initial enrollment shall be subject to the intraconference transfer rules set forth in 15.01.5. (Revised and effective 5/99; revised and effective 2/20/01; editorial revision 5/20/05; revised and effective 8/1/11).
Holy Over-Exaggeration Batman!
Penn State fan here. Just a quick note/correction. We signed one pretty highly rated DT in 2018, and two undersized 3* DT "projects" with some upside, but both will need to grow into the position...
In Fact, DT would be on the short list of positions Franklin has recruited the worst on the roster. It's has seen more whiffs/misses than maybe any other position under his tenure (McLean, Settle, Wilkins, Dioubate, etc), and there's only four (low) 4* kids on the roster at DT; 1 RsSoph, 2 RsFr, and 1 Fr. The pair of 2018 starters will both have been low-to-mid 3* kids as recruits.
The three dt kids in the eighteen class were all four stars and weigh 275,280 and 300.l believe two were early enrollees and really impressed.Wish the kid the best and hope he does well.
2 years. He spent 1 year at psy. He has to sit next year which leaves 3. By big 10 rule he loses an additional year transferring within conference. That leaves 2 to play.
No. He used his redshirt year at PSU last year. Right now he has 4 to play 4 at PSU. If he transfers he has to sit and lose a year anywhere he goes in FBS since he doesn't have a redshirt year. While it is true the B1G rule stipulates that transfers within the conference lose a year of eligibility, it doesn't make you lose an additional year if you don't have a redshirt year left. You just lose a year. So he would sit in 18, and have 3 to play 3 afterwards.
rubaseball is right. Bolds has to sit out a year as stated by the NCAA. On top of that, the B1G penalize the player an additional year for transferring with the conference. So here is Bolds' career taking shape based on that:
Year 1: redshirt at PSU (true frosh season)
Year 2: transfer to another FBS school and sit. The year is lost (redshirt frosh season)
Year 3: Bolds can play at his new school (redshirt soph. season)
Year 4: Bolds last year of eligibility. (redshirt Jr. season)
Year 5: never happens because the B1G stripes Bolds of the year on top of the NCAA punishment for transferring within the conference. (redshirt Sr. season)
If you can't say, don't mention it.
No, it's not additive. The one year satisfies both. This is the conference rule word for word:
B. Post-Matriculation. A student-athlete that has signed a tender from a Conference institution and has triggered transfer status per NCAA Bylaw 14.5.2 (conditions affecting transfer status), may not represent an alternate Big Ten institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until the individual has completed one (1) full academic year of residence at the alternate (i.e., certifying) Big Ten institution and shall be charged with the loss of one (1) season of eligibility in all sports.
That's it. It doesn't say he loses two years if he's used his redshirt. One year is all the rule states, and it takes no consideration of any NCAA provisions or rules. No intra-conference B1G transfer has ever lost two years of eligibility that I am aware of.
Not Rashaan Gary. He is the one they really wanted. All the others were just part of the recruiting process.
Wilkins yes...Bateky, I haven’t seen enough from him to say so...What has he done that makes you think this is true?
I defer to the poster above who seems to disagree with you and understands why...
That’s a heck of a long post to still be incorrect about your stance? And I’m bashing other posted? I’m not the one speculating that he was a bust or an academic casualty simply because they have been recruiting so well along the DLine...why would I feel the need to address your baseless implication?
From what I’ve read on other sites your 3 frosh all have a higher ceiling than Bolds and he likely was never the DT prospect that fellow NJ product Fred Hansard is/will be...still he trumps most of the guys we have been recruiting in size and potential IMO...
Surely a PSU fan wouldn’t know more than our all knowing RU fans that want to pass on the kid because he didn’t commit to us initially...from an unbiased stance, is the kid any good and was simply passed by much better players or does he not belong at the fbs level?
The NCAA covers this when you sit a year for transferring. You lose this year anyway. Does the B1G think they are addressing something the NCAA hasn't already covered?
Yes. As the rule currently stands B1G in-conference transfers lose an additional year of eligibility. Things are changing quickly though and my guess is the rule won’t be around in a year and/or he could get a waiver.
Transfers within Big 10 lose a year of eligibility in addition to sitting a year.
Yes, the NCAA "sit a year" rule is only in force for football and men's basketball. Suriano is the perfect example. Had his waiver not been approved, he would have had to sit this past season per Big Ten rule, even though the NCAA does not require it. He also would have lost a year of eligibility.
Read the rule. It says they lose a year. Nowhere does it state that it is cumulative to any NCAA loss of eligibility. They are two different computations. NCAA eligibility versus Big Ten eligibility. You guys are all getting hung up on the fact that the NCAA is charging him a year and the Big Ten is charging him a year so you add 1+1=2, but that's not the rule. The fact that he's being charged a year by both doesn't mean he loses two, it means he loses one both in the Big Ten and for all other FBS schools through the NCAA. He's only losing the NCAA year because he used his redshirt year already. Had he played in his freshman season, he would have 3 to play 3 at any non Big Ten FBS school after sitting a year. In the Big Ten he would have 3 to play 2.
Since he didn't play and used his redshirt, however, he will lose a year regardless unless he transfers to an FBS or JUCO program, but it will only be one year. One year is all that anyone is charging.