Tough day for David Johnson

[JungRebel]

So Kelly has hit his ceiling and neither Pellerin nor the number one QB croot by most services could come in and play better than D. Williams if need be.

All this based off of the assumption that OM as an institution cannot develop QBs. We're certainly going to find out how accurate your predictions are.

 

[121Josey]

Seems like Freeze evaluated Chad Kelly pretty well considering he kicked the ever-loving **** out of your team. Maybe State should try that sometime.

To act like you actually care about a school evaluating and developing a kid from high school throughout his entire college career is the most disingenuous load a crap that is normally relegated to ED.

Seems like Mullen did a better job of evaluating Chris Relf since he kicked the loving-ever **** out of your team his whole career.

 

[121Josey]

So Kelly has hit his ceiling and neither Pellerin nor the number one QB croot by most services could come in and play better than D. Williams if need be.

Thanks for the heads up.

Bingo. You're a fast learner.** Freezus can't develop QB's. BTW, how did the "number one QB croot by most services" help Sumlin at A&M?

 

[johnson86-1]

I've never really understood the whole "UM hasn't started a QB they recruited as a freshman since...." thing. As a coach, your job is to put a good QB on the field. Where he came from or how you wound up with him, I couldn't give two ***** about.

It's just a sign of whether what you are doing is sustainable. Freeze was bailed out big time by Kelly being available this year, but at the same time, Freeze can make do with a mediocre qb. Freeze didn't particularly want Bo Wallace, but was stuck with him and while it's easy to see why Bo frustrated him, he was still pretty damn effective. We'll see in a couple of years if it's relevant. Starting off at a school with a few years of not getting a QB isn't exactly a death knoll. Mullen didn't really have a QB that he recruited ready to play until Dak's RS Sophomore year, which was what, year four or five for him? If Patterson ends up in the same boat as Kincaide and the guy from prep, then it will be time for people from UM to worry.

 

[57stratdawg]

I kind of agree unless you're a HS QB being recruited to OM. Production is the ultimate goal. If Freeze can turn Kelly into a second team All SEC QB in 8 months, more power to him.

 

[JungRebel]

I assume you will go on record as saying MSU will get better QB production than OM in the next four years then?

 

[121Josey]

I assume you will go on record as saying MSU will get better QB production that OM in the next four years then?

Per star or gross production?** I'll take the two dual-threat QB's in Mullen's offense over the two pro-style QB's in Freeze's system. So that means over the next three seasons. Bookmark it.

 

[OleMissLogo]

We were talking about high school quarterbacks, weren't we?

I would prefer to be in the position that State is in now and that Ole Miss is in now with Patterson in that you aren't wondering where your next quarterback is coming from every season. You like to have some depth at that position.

But as always, I do appreciate you showing up to talk. Of course, your opinion means less to than nothing to me, so 17 off back to wherever it is you came from and stay there.

Eh, I just want a successful QB. I don't care where he comes from. Whenever a QB leaves you still have questions of what exactly you have at the position, regardless of if someone is transferring in or a 2-year backup. The position State is in with Fitz/Staley vs the position Ole Miss was in with Wallace then Kelly isn't really all that different. In both cases you are hoping that the QB works out.

 

[OleMissLogo]

Bingo. You're a fast learner.** Freezus can't develop QB's. BTW, how did the "number one QB croot by most services" help Sumlin at A&M?

Question: Was Bo Wallace a good QB? Just a simple Yes or No.

 

[OleMissLogo]

Per star or gross production?** I'll take the two dual-threat QB's in Mullen's offense over the two pro-style QB's in Freeze's system. So that means over the next three seasons. Bookmark it.

The best QB in the history of Mississippi State University football didn't even match the production of Freeze's latest transfer QB, but these next two are supposed to offer up better production?

 

[121Josey]

Question: Was Bo Wallace a good QB? Just a simple Yes or No.

Yes and no.

Question: Have you ever heard of "Good Bo"? What about "Bad Bo"? Have you ever seen them in the same place at the same time? Ok, I should have written "Questions" (plural)? Simple Yes or No questions are not really so simple.**

 

[HD6]

The difference is we knew we had Fitz/Staley and we're confident in them. Kelly didn't commit to Ole Miss until after the 2014 season, and I can't imagine you were confident in Kincaide/Buchanan following Wallace. Your staff wasn't, and it worked out best for them.

I mean, don't you feel good knowing you're good at QB until 2019? Beats trying to figure it out year to year. That's what I'm trying to say.

 

[121Josey]

The best QB in the history of Mississippi State University football didn't even match the production of Freeze's latest transfer QB, but these next two are supposed to offer up better production?

What does Freezus' latest transfer QB have left to prove? What does he have left to prove, dammit? Let him go to the draft! If $cam put up his numbers after one season, then Freezus' transfer QB should also go #1. Better than any QB in the history of Miss. State University.**

Again, Kelly won't duplicate that performance. And it's funny how you can't distinguish a career from a season. But State has a QB in the build of $cam Newton who throws the ball better than Dak. I expect him to be better than Dak in his senior season.

 

[coach66]

It's part of the win at all cost mentality.

Generally, transfers jump someone that
has been loyal and has worked hard but
its all about winning. Most of the time the
Transfers have baggage but doesn't matter as
long as we win. We rarely do it, y'all actively seek
them out, says a lot about the difference in our
personalities.

 

[coach66]

Without Kelly you guys might have won 7 games.

Nm

 

[hatfieldms]

Chad Kelly had about 250 more passing yards, 2 more TD passes...

....and 8 more interceptions while his qb rating was a whopping 4 points higher. You act like Kelly was the far superior QB this year which definitely wasn't the case

 

[KurtRambis4]

So he basically

completed two more passes a game....

 

[OleMissLogo]

The difference is we knew we had Fitz/Staley and we're confident in them. Kelly didn't commit to Ole Miss until after the 2014 season, and I can't imagine you were confident in Kincaide/Buchanan following Wallace. Your staff wasn't, and it worked out best for them.

I mean, don't you feel good knowing you're good at QB until 2019? Beats trying to figure it out year to year. That's what I'm trying to say.

But I don't KNOW that we are good at QB till 2019, just like you don't KNOW what production you will get from QB next year. You can assume and think and hope, but won't know till one of them is actually on the field full-time.

That's what I'm trying to say. So I don't care where the QB comes from, how long he's in the program, or what he has done elsewhere/as a backup. I just care about his production once he is the starter.