Tough day for David Johnson

[57stratdawg]

He has 10 kids as 50/50 for OM to finish with. OM landed 1 of them (AJ Brown).

Couple that with Leo Lewis, CeCe Jefferson, Drew Richmond, and Maliki Dupree last year and that's a pretty ugly batting average.

 

[121Josey]

Tough Couple Years for the TSUN Defense. It's nice to sign all these WR's and OL. But they have signed very few Front 7 on defense. That should start catching up with them this season.

 

[coach66]

On John Weiners show some rivals expert was

Kind of pissing down their back about
the class ranking. Summarizing, he said
the high ranking was somewhat mitigated
By the failure to meet needs.

 

[Faustdog]

They would win a national championship if you could line up eleven wide receivers.

 

[msstate7]

They would win a national championship if you could line up eleven wide receivers.

Matt Millen recruiting cood?

 

[dawgatUSM]

Their starting LT has already been named by freeze and he's not even on campus. I understand he's the #1 tackle In the country but it shows a recruiting deficiency when you're asking a true freshman to start at one of the toughest positions on the field before they even step on campus.

 

[msstate7]

Their starting LT has already been named by freeze and he's not even on campus. I understand he's the #1 tackle In the country but it shows a recruiting deficiency when you're asking a true freshman to start at one of the toughest positions on the field before they even step on campus.

Poor Rawlings

 

[RockstarFromMars]

That is pretty dumb. Our #1 need absolutely was OL, and we hit a homerun there. We need a QB to replace Chad, feel like we did pretty well there too. We needed a safety to replace Hilton and Elston, and we got a consensus top 100 player(#1 S on one service). DT to replace Nkemdiche and we got a consensus 5* in Benito. The only position that I feel like we missed on CB. We really needed Shyheim Carter but he chose Bama. We had 7 open spots available to sign and chose to keep them in our pocket for EEs next year rather than take a chance on some prospects.

But, those are rankings so I suppose we'll see.

 

[T-45fixer]

Benito! He's worse than Powe. And Powe is average.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

That's just like, your opinion bro

 

[T-45fixer]

And when shows up to get his paycheck from Clark Oil I may get Powe to roll his fat *** and take his money.

 

[HD6]

You only need a QB to replace Chad because you missed so badly on your evaluations of Kincaide and Buchanan.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

Sure, but even if 1 of those 2 panned out they'd only start a year so QB is still a major need. And if you're gonna get one, might as well be a consensus top 2 QB.

 

[HD6]

Except that you signed a QB in 14 and 15 as well. Then Kendrick Doss transfers out because you move him to safety, and I guess Pellerin will be the next to bail since he'll never play in front of Patterson.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

I'm really not sure what this has to do with us signing a position of need - which I said was a need. Unless you think Patterson is a bad QB.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

Rawlings will likely be starting at RT next year, and then will finish his career at center.

 

[ShrubDog]

How is LB looking?

 

[RockstarFromMars]

Gates returns at Stinger and Caldwell will slide over to MLB. We'll need some of the younger guys to step up for depth. This is a big position of need for next years class.

 

[OleMissLogo]

Their starting LT has already been named by freeze and he's not even on campus. I understand he's the #1 tackle In the country but it shows a recruiting deficiency when you're asking a true freshman to start at one of the toughest positions on the field before they even step on campus.

Seemed to work with Tunsil. And Cam Robinson. Almost like those guys were #1 for a reason...

 

[HD6]

He's a great QB, maybe he'll be the first HS QB your school has evaluated and gotten anything out of in over a decade. The only reason he was a need was because of Freeze's failure to do in his tenure to this point.

I know Freeze is dominating Mullen at this point, but my argument remains.

 

[coach66]

None of this matters because transfer season is upon us and the Bears will find

A home for troubled talented CB, lb, and dl, just watch. Oh and don't forget about sick mamas and grandmas.

 

[Big Sheep81]

He'll drive up in his new "pre-owned" pickup......

 

[PBRME]

They already have their sights scoped in on a Memphis linebacker that can save 30 minutes on his drive home to Grenada to be with his sick family member. He wants to transfer then go ahead. But he should have to sit out like a normal transfer would. Being granted a medical transfer waiver would be a joke.

 

[OleMissLogo]

They already have their sights scoped in on a Memphis linebacker that can save 30 minutes on his drive home to Grenada to be with his sick family member. He wants to transfer then go ahead. But he should have to sit out like a normal transfer would. Being granted a medical transfer waiver would be a joke.

I'm 80% sure that the NCAA changed that rule. You still have to sit out a year but you don't lose the year of eligibility.

 

[coach66]

Transfer U

nm

 

[PBRME]

Unless he had a redshirt available he should lose a year.

 

[whosyourdawgy]

I'm 80% sure that the NCAA changed that rule. You still have to sit out a year but you don't lose the year of eligibility.

They don't give a damn about the kid at Memphis. His little brother is a bad *** in next years class and they are getting their in with him. Gotta hand it to those crooked *******. They come up with good plans to land recruits

 

[BigLeagueChew]

Seems like Freeze evaluated Chad Kelly pretty well considering he kicked the ever-loving **** out of your team. Maybe State should try that sometime.

To act like you actually care about a school evaluating and developing a kid from high school throughout his entire college career is the most disingenuous load a crap that is normally relegated to ED. This coming from a fanbase who is still upset over not getting a transfer QB in Cam.

 

[Forrest4Moore]

Seems like Freeze evaluated Chad Kelly pretty well considering he kicked the ever-loving **** out of your team. Maybe State should try that sometime.

To act like you actually care about a school evaluating and developing a kid from high school throughout his entire college career is the most disingenuous load a crap that is normally relegated to ED. This coming from a fanbase who is still upset over not getting a transfer QB in Cam.

Ok. This dickwad's time should be up.

 

[KurtRambis4]

What evaluating

of Kelly did he do again?

 

[prairiereb]

Is there some higher degree of honor or integrity in winning with high school quarterbacks you evaluated and "developed" as opposed to a transfer? Is the win worth more somehow? Or really any transfer at a position of need for that matter. I mean, what's it matter?

 

[JungRebel]

Yes. That's why fur boy's song of six picks is still sung in good spirits around here.

Ole Miss is Mercenary U.

 

[HD6]

We were talking about high school quarterbacks, weren't we?

I would prefer to be in the position that State is in now and that Ole Miss is in now with Patterson in that you aren't wondering where your next quarterback is coming from every season. You like to have some depth at that position.

But as always, I do appreciate you showing up to talk. Of course, your opinion means less to than nothing to me, so 17 off back to wherever it is you came from and stay there.

 

[GloryDawg]

He's a great QB, maybe he'll be the first HS QB your school has evaluated and gotten anything out of in over a decade. The only reason he was a need was because of Freeze's failure to do in his tenure to this point.

I know Freeze is dominating Mullen at this point, but my argument remains.

Once you start down that road with a QB it is hard to stop. I suspect they will sign another juco qb next year. Patterson will not be ready next year or even after that. Ole Miss just don't do QB's very well. At lest the coaches.

 

[patdog]

Is there some higher degree of honor or integrity in winning with high school quarterbacks you evaluated and "developed" as opposed to a transfer?

I've never really understood the whole "UM hasn't started a QB they recruited as a freshman since...." thing. As a coach, your job is to put a good QB on the field. Where he came from or how you wound up with him, I couldn't give two ***** about.

 

[121Josey]

I've never really understood the whole "UM hasn't started a QB they recruited as a freshman since...." thing. As a coach, your job is to put a good QB on the field. Where he came from or how you wound up with him, I couldn't give two ***** about.

Ok, you don't care. And that's the reason you don't understand why it matters. 1. You spend good money - I mean scholarships** - on the position. 2. If you can't develop talent, then the JUCO or transfer QB you bring isn't going to develop. You may win despite the QB, but you're leaving wins on the table. Your point would be a fair assessment if the QB was not the most important single position on the team and arguably the most difficult to master. Plus, I would think that QB's want to play somewhere where they can succeed individually. So, it would matter to them. Do they need to ask, "Hugh, do I need to sign somewhere else, learn the position, and then move closer to my sick grandmother in two years?"

 

[patdog]

That's ********. Another way to frame it is that Clemson and EMCC (and Ark. St. and EMCC on the previous QB) spent those valuable scholarship resources on developing a QB, and then UM got him when he was ready to step in and start in the SEC. So they're not wasting resources on a QB who isn't ready to play immediately.

 

[thf24]

Ok. This dickwad's time should be up.

Seriously. I have no issue with Rebs who constructively add to the discussion coming around, but I've never seen that guy do anything but antagonize.

 

[121Josey]

That's ********. Another way to frame it is that Clemson and EMCC (and Ark. St. and EMCC on the previous QB) spent those valuable scholarship resources on developing a QB, and then UM got him when he was ready to step in and start in the SEC. So they're not wasting resources on a QB who isn't ready to play immediately.

That's ********. Point 1. How many QB's do they have on the roster who are not ready to play right now?

Point 2. The current QB will not be better than he was this year. He's hit his ceiling. And what happens if he gets injured? Season over. Dak's injury 2013 - State had a QB ready to play. They salvaged a winning season that catapulted them to #1 in the nation the next year.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Agreed.