I wonder what is taking him so long to make a decision? Did he do enough to actually go test the waters this year without an agent? I really thought he would be one of the first to announce he would be coming back.
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Genuinely curious- are we at the point now where we legitimately have to wait on an “announcement” for every single one of our players aside from walk ons?
he absolutely did enough and showed enough to go through the process
i also believe 100% that the NBA guys will tell him to return to UK
any player that shows promise should go through the process and get a better understanding of where they stand and what they need to work on
i also believe 100% that the NBA guys will tell him to return to UK
any player that shows promise should go through the process and get a better understanding of where they stand and what they need to work on
Still a ton of moving pieces.. which players are leaving or staying, which transfers are we looking at. I imagine Toppin, Brooks, and Ware are all kinda waiting to see what each other does (even though Ware said he's coming back).
There was a time when this would be such a random and odd question to ask. Why should Jacob Toppin be making an announcement about anything other than what classes he plans to take next year (I'm being facetious ... I don't think he should actually be announcing his class schedule, so calm down).
Alas, it's actually against all odds a fair question in 2021.
Alas, it's actually against all odds a fair question in 2021.
Pretty much.Lance Ware scored 2 points a game and announced his return.
yes ... yes we are
Did Ware actually state he was coming back? I thought he did, but then there was speculation otherwise. Was that clarified? Thanks
With the Calipari player turnover, yes we do.
This is a direct result of our fanbase driving the dialogue with players. In most programs, it would just be assumed that there's nowhere to go for a place like Ware. But in the current environment (regularly losing players, no penalty for transfer, etc), we demand this of all players. Crazy but true.
Toppin needs to put on 15 pounds and work on his offensive game. He could be really good .
I know he said he was coming back (or some version of that), but some speculate he's not 100% on board.. which I actually believe, because he still has three other bigs deciding and two coming in.
IMO, Ware will transfer if most of those guys come back. But if say, Toppin and Sarr were to leave? Or Brooks? Then he has more clear playing time.
If he works on his game this summer, i.e. getting stronger, working on staying low, power drop step and baby hook, I think Ware could show MAJOR improvement next year. I saw a lot of little things to like about his game this year. Just needs more time to put it together. I hope he stays.
He was asked and answered the question. He didn’t make some massive announcement.
Nor should he have. I guess the vague speculation of others is just that......
I understand but shouldn’t cal and staff be able to provide that to most players?
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I'm working under the assumption he's coming back, is not yet an NBA prospect or even a 'test the waters guy' yet and no reason to think he wants to transfer.
So, unless I'm way off, he's coming back. No Story (I hope!). I think he may end up having the best NBA career of anyone on this year's team.
So, unless I'm way off, he's coming back. No Story (I hope!). I think he may end up having the best NBA career of anyone on this year's team.
If I were Toppin, I would leave my options open until I see who and how many new players Cal is going to bring in. If Cal recruits over him and he gets buried on the bench, he will be much better off going to the transfer portal while there is no penalty for transferring.
Any reasonable player would do the same thing. I am sure his parents are advising him to wait and see. And then let Cal know what you are doing.
Any reasonable player would do the same thing. I am sure his parents are advising him to wait and see. And then let Cal know what you are doing.
The fan base doesn't drive crap in this program, just ask Cal. According to how he thinks we have just enough sense to walk around. If the fan base had any say 75%+ of the team wouldn't pack up and leave after a year or less.
And yet, the fan base perpetuates the entire system by asking every bench player continually whether they are moving on. Granted, not really our fault, but it’s definitely a side effect of the system we live in.
I encourage everyone to NOT stare at that gif too long, you'll get the wrong idea.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Wait, can he transfer again without sitting? He already transferred once.
Thats the case with most of the guys we have lost the last few years.
The tough part to swallow is, the nba really only cares about measurables and athletesism first, they can teach the rest.
You gotta be kidding me. If it would help short circuit the process, maybe he can talk to his coaches! Another example of how f’d up the UK system has become.
Yep, sad but true. Jacob just transferred here this past offseason and was expecting to take a redshirt year before the special exemption allowed him to play. I'm fully expecting him to return. If he leaves, I won't be happy. He's not in anyone's mock draft. He has no real prospects. He should come back.
Fans discuss each player's departure or return because the program causes it to be a questionable issue. People in general discuss the weather but their discussion has no effect on how it plays out, just as the fans have no effect on what players do relative to going or staying.
lol
Yeah we want to make sure all of our players keep their eyes focused on what’s important. And that’s what they need to do to get out of here ASAP.
Why would a sophomore announce anything? Minus putting up 15 and 10, only a transfer would be possible.
Almost forgot where we were.
Almost forgot where we were.
I said something similar to this and i agree with you, he has some skills that i think if he stays at least 3 years he could be a very good center for UK.
Recruiting over players is one thing i wish Cal would stop doing. Toppin is going to be a very good player for UK if he stays and Cal does not recruit over him. I know this is very hard to do if a player wants to come too UK.
I don’t think there’s anyone out there to “recruit over him” even if Cal could.
Isn’t there a limit (by the NBA) on how many can “test the waters”?
As you say, in this current environment, fans are justified in engaging in this sort of talk. Sports figures, coaches, etc. rarely mean what they say, these days.
I laughed when the season was over and saw a 100 posts saying well we know Toppin will be back.
You would think people would learn by now. Assume every single one of them is gone until they tell us different.
You would think people would learn by now. Assume every single one of them is gone until they tell us different.
All that and he didn’t let people just push him around like Oliver Sarr did.
The transfer portal has 750 players in it available for transfer.