Tom Crean got creamed

[missouridawg]

A couple of implications.... Indiana is an adidas school with much more tradition than us (bad news, please stay Howland). DeRon Davis would be a nice transfer to grab if he leaves (good news).

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Any chance they could throw money at Brad Stevens?

 

[RocketDawg]

A couple of implications.... Indiana is an adidas school with much more tradition than us (bad news, please stay Howland). DeRon Davis would be a nice transfer to grab if he leaves (good news).

Howland's not going anywhere.

 

[missouridawg]

Any chance they could throw money at Brad Stevens?

. He is on the cusp of winning the East for the Celtics. Celtics > Hoosiers.

 

[aTotal360]

Certainly you don't mean the Celtics coach.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

My first thought was Davis potentially transferring. He was "the one that got away last year". Howland just could not overcome the fact the Indiana & Crean had been recruiting him for 4 plus years. Davis would have been our highest profile freshman this year & another bigger body.

 

[engie]

De'ron Davis come on down*

need to move sick grandma to biloxi*

 

[Hoover Dawg]

I don't keep up with basketball off-court stuff. It may very well have been a dumb question. I just figured since he was an Indiana native, he might be their Jim Harbaugh. He wasn't leaving either, for the longest time. Until they paid 10 mil/year or whatever.

By the way, John Calipari makes 9.8 million and Stevens makes 3.67 from my quick Google research.

 

[BiscuitEater]

DeRon Davis would be a nice transfer to grab if he leaves (good news).

Crean was at IU for nine years; made the NCAAs 3 times (33%); winning % in Big Ten was 44% (60-104); IU became only the 4th team ever to be ranked in the top 3 & miss the NCAAT.

For comparison purposes only .. Stans made the NCAAT 6 times (43%) in 14 years; had a SEC win% of 55% (130-105).

Where is that idiot IU poster now? We tried to tell him Crean was on the 'hot seat.'

 

[missouridawg]

Crean was at IU for nine years; made the NCAAs 3 times (33%); winning % in Big Ten was 44% (60-104); IU became only the 4th team ever to be ranked in the top 3 & miss the NCAAT.

For comparison purposes only .. Stans made the NCAAT 6 times (43%) in 14 years; had a SEC win% of 55% (130-105).

Where is that idiot IU poster now? We tried to tell him Crean was on the 'hot seat.'

I think they're the first team ever to beat 2 #1 seeds and miss the tourney.

 

[mstateglfr]

Crean was at IU for nine years; made the NCAAs 3 times (33%); winning % in Big Ten was 44% (60-104); IU became only the 4th team ever to be ranked in the top 3 & miss the NCAAT.

For comparison purposes only .. Stans made the NCAAT 6 times (43%) in 14 years; had a SEC win% of 55% (130-105).

Where is that idiot IU poster now? We tried to tell him Crean was on the 'hot seat.'

Those arent great numbers, but keep in mind the shitshow he stepped into. We like to say Howland came into a shitshow, but with context, it doesnt compare to IU's debacle.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

A couple of implications.... Indiana is an adidas school with much more tradition than us (bad news, please stay Howland). DeRon Davis would be a nice transfer to grab if he leaves (good news).

I don't think you have to worry about IU pursuing Howland.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Crean was at IU for nine years; made the NCAAs 3 times (33%); winning % in Big Ten was 44% (60-104); IU became only the 4th team ever to be ranked in the top 3 & miss the NCAAT.

For comparison purposes only .. Stans made the NCAAT 6 times (43%) in 14 years; had a SEC win% of 55% (130-105).

Where is that idiot IU poster now? We tried to tell him Crean was on the 'hot seat.'

Actually he made it 4 times, not 3. (Making your signature pretty ironic.)

The first 3 years he had a depleted roster and was on probation, so I wouldn't really count that against him. After the rough start, it's 4 NCAA Tournaments in 6 years, still with a winning record in the 2 he missed, with 3 Sweet 16s and 2 Big 10 championships. That's a pretty strong record at most schools.

ETA: Don't know where you got 60-104. It's 71-91. Also 63-45 over the last 6 years.

Indiana Hoosiers (Big Ten Conference) <small style="font-size: 10.2552px;">(2008–present)</small>
2008–09	Indiana	6–25	1–17	11th
2009–10	Indiana	10–21	4–14	T–9th
2010–11	Indiana	12–20	3–15	11th
2011–12	Indiana	27–9	11–7	5th	NCAA Sweet 16
2012–13	Indiana	29–7	14–4	1st	NCAA Sweet 16
2013–14	Indiana	17–15	7–11	T–8th
2014–15	Indiana	20–14	9–9	T–7th	NCAA Round of 64
2015–16	Indiana	27–8	15–3	1st	NCAA Sweet 16
2016–17	Indiana	18–16	7–11	T–10th	NIT First Round

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[Willow Grove Dawg]

Steve Alford will have the first chance to say NO

 

[missouridawg]

Actually he made it 4 times, not 3. (Making your signature pretty ironic.)

The first 3 years he had a depleted roster and was on probation, so I wouldn't really count that against him. After the rough start, it's 4 NCAA Tournaments in 6 years, still with a winning record in the 2 he missed, with 3 Sweet 16s and 2 Big 10 championships. That's a pretty strong record at most schools.

ETA: Don't know where you got 60-104. It's 71-91. Also 63-45 over the last 6 years.

Indiana Hoosiers (Big Ten Conference) <small style="font-size: 10.2552px;">(2008–present)</small>
2008–09	Indiana	6–25	1–17	11th
2009–10	Indiana	10–21	4–14	T–9th
2010–11	Indiana	12–20	3–15	11th
2011–12	Indiana	27–9	11–7	5th	NCAA Sweet 16
2012–13	Indiana	29–7	14–4	1st	NCAA Sweet 16
2013–14	Indiana	17–15	7–11	T–8th
2014–15	Indiana	20–14	9–9	T–7th	NCAA Round of 64
2015–16	Indiana	27–8	15–3	1st	NCAA Sweet 16
2016–17	Indiana	18–16	7–11	T–10th	NIT First Round

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It is really amazing at how easy it is to take his 9 years out of context and how willingly our media perpetuates that. He cleaned up a **** show for 3 years and has gone to 4 out of 6 NCAA tourneys with 3 sweet sixteens since. He won 2 outright Big10 titles in the past 5 years. What a stupid firing. Someone is going to really appreciate hiring this guy when they do.

 

[aTotal360]

Funny story...a lot of Hoosier fans think Billy Donovan is dieing for the job.

 

[KingBarkus]

Let's see if lsu will go after Crean.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

Not based on how bad their fans were dogging him during our mutual pursuit of DeRon Davis and Mario Kegler.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

I guess with Tom Allen and Grant Heard being close, the delusion-itis has spread even more to their fanbase.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

They damn well should but they wont because they won't pay him what he's worth. I think they will end up getting Steve Forbes, Kevin Keatts or Kermit Davis

 

[engie]

He'll be the first one back to admit when he's wrong**

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Not based on how bad their fans were dogging him during our mutual pursuit of DeRon Davis and Mario Kegler.

I doubt those same people have anything to do with who is hired. I could be wrong but I'm probably not.

I doubt Howland's name shows up on their B list. And IU won't have to go to their B list.

It was time to move on from Crean. There is a lot of talent in Indiana - especially Indy. And not many of those players wanted to play for him. He knew he's been on thin ice for a couple of years now. Not making the NCAAT was not an option for him.

If Donovan wants to move back to the college game, there are a lot worse places he could do it than IU.