Tom Brokaw

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You brought up the point that these things should come to light.
I’m just saying that it’s easy to ruin a mans reputation who might not have done much.
Trying to kiss someone isn’t harassment either. Holding them into a corner and forcibly planting one is different.
But the benefit of the doubt it’s always give to the woman. Why?
 

57stratdawg

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Do you mean the “women” get the benefit of the doubt? The group I referenced has as many as 50 (!!) women involved.

Do you really live in a world where 50 individuals publicly accuse an innocent Harvey Weinstein?

Or Bill O’Reilly enters into 6 settlements for no reason?

Or Bill Cosby is wrongly convicted?

Or NBC wrongly fires arguably their largest star?
 

mstateglfr

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I see so many cases nowadays where the accusers come forward with allegations of sexual assault/misconduct/etc. decades after the fact. Like it was said, it was a different time decades before the whole #MeToo movement, but people are being judged against it today. And it’s turning what back then would be considered flirting into sexual assault. My question is: what’s the statute of limitations for these crimes?

Grabbing tits has always been sexual harassment.
Making suggestive innuendo (in your endo!) Has always been sexual harassment.
Etc etc etc.

Just because it may have not been identified as often 20 or 30 years ago doesnt mean it wasnt wrong.
'A different time' is total bs.
That **** wasnt flirting back then.
Flirting 40 years ago, 20 years ago, and today is all the same.
Sexual harassment 40 years ago, 20 uears ago, and today is all the same.
 

mstateglfr

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Yeah that’s kind of my point. You could simply give a woman a compliment in today’s world and she could claim harassment.

Like “sweetie you look good today”. That’s not harassment unless you do it repeatedly after being asked not to.

If you call coworkers and especially a subordinate 'sweetie' , then you are at best creepy and at worst setting yourself up for a potential HR issue.
 
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I would not include the O'Reilly statement. It is plausible, with the money he was making, that he decided it was better to go ahead and spend the fraction of his income he did to avoid a messy public situation, given what he had at stake.

I'm not saying I know he is innocent, nor am I saying he was guilty. I'm just saying the fact that there were settlements does not mean he was for sure guilty. Innocent people/companies sometimes settle because the cost...even of winning, is so much more.

When you consider what O'Reilly was worth, the amounts he is said to have paid out is chump-change for him. For all we know, he may also have said some things that would be highly inappropriate today, but not so much in the past, depending on the specific situation.

In the Cosby case, I really haven't looked at it closely enough to make an informed opinion. But, I am uneasy when the star witness that got him convicted admitted:

1. She went to his place voluntarily

2. She took drugs knowingly, knowing the effect they would have, and knowing she was alone in a man's apartment. And it was not uncommon for this to be a prelude to sex. One could reasonably argue that her accepting what she believed to be Ludes was back then an acknowledgement/acceptance of what could follow. If not, then she would have to have been incredibly stupid

3. She talked on two occasions to a woman who had a co-worker testify that the woman suggested to her that she could make a false accusation about a well-known celebrity and get paid. It really bothers me that the witness was able to claim that she just happened to meet this woman at the Women's march and they never once discussed Cosby. That is one helluva coincidence, and we are to believe the big thing they had in common was never mentioned?

4. I know people that, "run in her circle". They are among the most extremist liberals you will encounter. They truly believe all Republicans are evil, or at least really ignorant. In most cases, they consider themselves righteous, morally and intellectually superior, and thus their, "ends justify their means". In other words, any action they take, ethical or not, is justified because they are righting-a-wrong.
 
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Yeah that’s kind of my point. You could simply give a woman a compliment in today’s world and she could claim harassment.

Like “sweetie you look good today”. That’s not harassment unless you do it repeatedly after being asked not to.

Yeah, people being called "Sweetie" is not acceptable in the workplace anymore, but not harassment either depending on tone. Everyone needs to keep conversations away from such comments.
 

johnson86-1

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He has admitted to drugging women. Then having sex with them. That is called rape.

I have no problem believing Cosby was/is a rapist based on the number of people making allegations, but isn't your post bull ****?
 
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