To the NIT crowd
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You got me bro. Guess it comes from loving UK since 1965. Maybe just Cal’s record in the dance. Maybe I’m just a believer or a dreamer or maybe I’m just stupid. Wow hope it’s not the last one, cause you know you can’t fix stupid. Loserville fans are living proof of that fact. Being 61 and a life long fan I’ll just pray it’s because I love UK and always wear those blue glasses I’ve had all these years. Love me some UK, our teams and Da man Cal.
Loving your post. You Rock my man. We can just both ignore the meltdown tomorrow if it goes the wrong way. Drink on fellow drinker and be happy.
Under the new NCAA tournament selections rules, a quadrant 1 loss gives you a better seed that a quadrant 2 win
of course. TBH they always had the quadrants.......it's just this year they aren't just considering top 50 RPI wins as quadrant 1......it's based on home/neutral and away.
So quadrant 1 is
home wins vs top 30 RPI teams
neutral wins vs top 50 RPI teams
away wins vs top 75 RPI teams.
It's a step in the right direction and long overdue.
That's another thing.......although we have a tough road coming up......any road W should be another win in quadrant 1.
FWIW I see lots of talking about MSU a 1 or 2 seed
Even if they pull this Purdue game out......they only 3-2 in group 1 and 3-1 in group 2.
What a horrible non conference schedule (229th) for Izzo who normally plays a very tough one.
They don't deserve a 1 or 2 just based on that.
Even if they pull this Purdue game out......they only 3-2 in group 1 and 3-1 in group 2.
What a horrible non conference schedule (229th) for Izzo who normally plays a very tough one.
They don't deserve a 1 or 2 just based on that.
We aren’t winning another game. How can a team this bad win a game? Who on their schedule can they beat?
Small nitpick, can we stop referring to those of us who aren't all gloom and doom all the time, don't overreact to every loss with terrible knee jerk takes, and predict defeat weeks before games are played as "pumpers."
I'm not saying you're one of these people.
I just hate being called a pumper because I don't go on suicide watch when my favorite sports team loses a game or has an off year.
Yes, this team could go to the NIT, but with the way this year's landscape looks, it seems unlikely unless the Cats lose out.
I hate the term sunshine pumpers.........sure there's some overly optimistic but anyone who doesn't share the doom and gloom is labeled a "sunshine pumper"
Its silly
Its silly
I'm not on the NIT bandwagon. But let's say we lose the next 5 out of 6 games. And lose 2nd game in SEC tournament. Where would you put us ? I think some have seen the potential danger of just that losing next 5 out of 6 and are just voicing their opinion.
That could still get us in because everyone kind of sucks this year. We're gonna see 2 or 3 seeds with eight losses this season. Luckily for UK, we picked a good year to struggle because we're certainly not alone.
We got two quadrant 1 wins and 7 in quadrant 2.
Unless those teams completely fall apart even if we suck the rest of the year, those wins will still remain there.
Look at bubbles teams.......there's a reason why even tho we are struggling we are still a 5 seed in most brackets.
Unless those teams completely fall apart even if we suck the rest of the year, those wins will still remain there.
Look at bubbles teams.......there's a reason why even tho we are struggling we are still a 5 seed in most brackets.
This is what we have regressed to, pre season rank 5th, to debating if we will make the tournament. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
If tomorrow was selection Sunday, Cats would be in good shape, however 7 big games loom ahead.
It's the pump crowd that calls anything other than not really caring either way, crybabies. I think it's the opposite. There's a reason that crowd pumps all week then disappears when their pumping is void. Then they re-appear when a few days go by and claim they just didn't want to deal with the crying. Well no one is crying, people are evaluating the situation and a lot of those people were debating the pumps all week and were right. That's why they disappear.
It's easy to play the middle man routine, but that's not always where the truth is. There's nothing wrong with fans expressing discontent at consecutive losses, saying the NIT is a possibility right now, or thinking Cal is trending down. Those are legitimate topics that the other crowd can't deal with.
I only go to the word "pumper" when that crowd behaves this way. I don't know why people cant just let others be fans and stop preaching.
based on what we've seen in the last 3 games, does it really matter NIT or tournament?
getting into the tournament and bounced in the first weekend is not a successful season for UK.
From a sense of pride standpoint, yes, the tournament is better, but I don't see a tournament game bringing any joy to UK fans on the trajectory this team is on.
fwiw, I can't imagine a sub .500 SEC team getting into the tourney regardless of their numbers
getting into the tournament and bounced in the first weekend is not a successful season for UK.
From a sense of pride standpoint, yes, the tournament is better, but I don't see a tournament game bringing any joy to UK fans on the trajectory this team is on.
fwiw, I can't imagine a sub .500 SEC team getting into the tourney regardless of their numbers
Making the tourney...yeah.
Having a good seed....nope.
Crazy year in hoops though so you never know what can happen.
Having a good seed....nope.
Crazy year in hoops though so you never know what can happen.
We're fine right now, but we need to right this ship asap. How many SEC teams get in? I worry we end up vying for the last SEC allotted spot against a team that beat us head to head, maybe even as late as the SEC tournament. I know they claim they don't consider conference counts, but I can't imagine there's not a cap on how many the SEC gets.
Vanderbilt was 19-15 last year and was a 9 seed last year. Go back and look at the 2017 NCAA Tournament there was 16 At large teams that had double digit losses from 10 losses to 15 losses. There was also 8 teams with 9 losses. This year look at the teams in the rankings look at most teams from #10 thru #25 most teams have 6 losses to 9 losses. Then the teams below #25 most have 8 or 9 losses. Kentucky will win at home there 3 games and will win 1or 2 on the road plus the games in the SEC Tourney. We will be in the NCAA Tournament!ent!!!!
Well, I am 67, started out listening to Cawood in 63. I never had the blue tinted glasses, not sure why. Some are eternal optimist,some are pessimist, I am somewhere in between, a realist. I study things and figure out what and why it is the way it is, then form an opinion. Sometimes I am wrong. I was wrong about the 14 team, so that made me not to give up too soon. I have not given up on this team, yet. But, man, they are hard to describe.
Sure, if you all will stop calling anyone that is critical of this team or of Cal, LOD, cry babies, trolls, Whiners, Doom and gloomers, etc.
If you do not like being labeled, then stop labeling others. Pretty simple.
Can't imagine taking this group to the NIT.
I would decline invite even if i had to make up a bs excuse.
I would decline invite even if i had to make up a bs excuse.
This is why I come to Rafters. The thickness of irony and complete lack of self-awareness of this post is finger-licking good.
Hates being called a pejorative term... promptly calls others a pejorative term. In the same effing sentence, no less.
You go, Rafters, you beautiful crazy *****, you.
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So, you're saying you expect us to be top 5 every single year when our history indicates that's more myth than fact dating back to the earliest days of the program?
You really think a team that returned less than 9 ppg and rpg from the year before wouldn't struggle? If so, that's on you.
Now, if you want to blame the coach for the roster makeup, that's completely fair. But, if you expect us to be super awesome 100 years out of 100 simply because the jersey says KENTUCKY on the front, you're setting yourself up for sadness. (I remember people predicting Final Fours and titles prior to the 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2013 and 2018 seasons just because we are Kentucky. It was silly then and it's silly now)
I am saying I expect a group of kids to come here, play hard, be good students and good citizens and give it everything they got.
Yes, i am blaming Cal. You simply can not be starting 5 freshmen and expect o be very good. To me, recruiting should be done by needs. We need a PG next year, lets go find one and make sure he understands that we will NOT recruit over him, and do that for every position on the floor. To have your goal to be to get 8 players drafted, you are hurting the school and fans that pays you. College basketball can NOT be the same as a herd of dairy cows, rush a bunch in, milk them for a year, rush them out and start the cycle all over again.
You can lose games, and I can deal with losing, but to lose and not give 100% is not excusable.And that is 100% on the coaching staff.
I'd say there's no better than a 30% chance of even making the ncaa tourney now.. Actually going by history,, there's a zero chance.. Go back n look at 6-6 starts for UK in the sec.. Never once made the tournament..
We will end up being a #4 or 5 seed, and make a run in the NCAA like we always do. All this is hysteria.
Well greater than zero because they can win the SEC tournament. However that’s pretty much never going to happen.
We can still get a one seed in the NIT.