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You get the feeling Shaheen has addressed the offensive deficiencies we had last season; whether or not this team will be committed to defending like last year’s team will be the difference between whether we are more like Providence/Xavier from last season. I’m happy to feel cautiously optimstic about this year’s team.
Love that we got some good outside shooters at lower levels but Sha's crappy offensive system may hinder them.
You based what I said on 1 post/thread. When a poster is 99% negative for years that's trolling.
As you wish. And no, no one has to toe any line. Balance is welcomed from everyone. Something you would know nothing about.
I disagree with @shu67's overly negative take, but I do think he should be allowed to express it. Otherwise the overly positive non-realistic posters should be banned also. Especially while we have other posters here repeatedly calling others "stupid" and other ad hominem attacks with complete freedom.
I understand. I have asked for balanced posting for more years than I can remember. But this is a Seton Hall fan site and it's only natural that more readers are going to be positive than negative. But when a poster is an agitator whose sole purpose is to stir the pot that costs us more members than you know. I have no issue with any poster who leans toward the negative. But I do have an issue with posters who do nothing but troll the program.
@shu67 has been warned more times than I can remember and continues to ignore the warnings given to him. If that continues then how can JD or I moderate the board when we are constantly challenged and do nothing about it?
@shu67 has been warned more times than I can remember and continues to ignore the warnings given to him. If that continues then how can JD or I moderate the board when we are constantly challenged and do nothing about it?
Just saying, he's only expressing an opinion. Even if it is largely negative, I for one am not threatened by it. "Warned" against being negative? lol, we were picked next to last in the league. He should be skipping down the street?
It's good for balance having some negative posters and some positive ones. Hope you rethink the ban. It's a bit heavy handed for someone who is just negative but harmless. Barrett is way more negative than shu67 but I enjoy reading all of their opinions. We need more posters here in our community, not less.
His most "trolling" thing could be the weird Mbaye fixation lol, and even that added comedy to the board.
It's good for balance having some negative posters and some positive ones. Hope you rethink the ban. It's a bit heavy handed for someone who is just negative but harmless. Barrett is way more negative than shu67 but I enjoy reading all of their opinions. We need more posters here in our community, not less.
His most "trolling" thing could be the weird Mbaye fixation lol, and even that added comedy to the board.
I agree, he should have the right to be negative and in this new environment more than likely he will be right with his assessment. I don’t agree with most of his positions, but he should be able to share. I also don’t agree with most of the overly positive posters either. If he is banned, not a good look.
This offseason looks like another year-after “correction” with the common theme not allocating a significant portion to retain the best players.
Last offseason we we went with kids that had significant game experience and/or actual production, albeit at lower levels and who Sha thought would be real competitors that got after it defensively (plus Hines kind of dropping into our laps). To account for getting all those top 100 types without experience that didn’t work out.
This offseason it is shooting and getting bigger at the 4 spot.
I’m willing to give up some defense for much better offense. It’s too extreme.
Agreed. I know very little about any of the new players. But it seems to me that all our bigs have a similar skill set and our guards/wings are even moreso similar. I wonder if it leads to a glut on the court at all times where nobody knows where to look.
Last year we knew Clark would be in control and that AJSM was our 2. We had players that fit a specific role.
Plus you can coach up defense and that’s Sha’s strength as a coach anyway.
Agree about Clark. Concerned about not having a true PG to run he show.
JMO, but I feel some teams in BE get too much h faith and credit and we dont get enough.
I know Im going to sound a bit hypocritical based some of my prior posts. However, I really don't tho k UCONN or Nova or all that awesome rosters this upcoming year. Same can be said for SJU. Those teams are getting top 10 hype (not Nova) and Im not terribly impressed.
We on the other hand have a really nice mix of players who I fully expect will be mad dog tough competitors with big offensive talent upgrade and we keep getting put as 10th or 11th.
Our low ranking and their high rankings are both misplaced.
I know Im going to sound a bit hypocritical based some of my prior posts. However, I really don't tho k UCONN or Nova or all that awesome rosters this upcoming year. Same can be said for SJU. Those teams are getting top 10 hype (not Nova) and Im not terribly impressed.
We on the other hand have a really nice mix of players who I fully expect will be mad dog tough competitors with big offensive talent upgrade and we keep getting put as 10th or 11th.
Our low ranking and their high rankings are both misplaced.
When you have the turnover of a roster that we have, first and foremost, it’s chemistry, how the rotation eventually shakes out, team defense, protecting the ball and who’s taking the big shots down the stretch when or when you need to stop a run.
Last year, the sum was better than the parts and coach settled on a rotation that he stuck with through the season. They limited turnovers and had Clark assuming that big shot role. They also avoided the injury bug to key players.
With so many unknowns, it’s really hard to predict anything about this team. Sad to say, we will probably be looking at an entirely new roster again next year.
Last year, the sum was better than the parts and coach settled on a rotation that he stuck with through the season. They limited turnovers and had Clark assuming that big shot role. They also avoided the injury bug to key players.
With so many unknowns, it’s really hard to predict anything about this team. Sad to say, we will probably be looking at an entirely new roster again next year.
When you have brand new rosters it is extremely important to have a go-to ball handler/facilitator.
without one it’ll be chaos with everybody wanting to prove themselves
The staff has echoed just what the last two posters noted.
They strongly believe this year's roster is superior to last season's. But last years team had excellent locker room chemistry and they followed the game plan well. in short, yes the sum of their parts was greater than the whole.
But now one key, the main one is going to be who runs the offense. There is no natural PG on the team and if you have say Del play the point you are taking away one of his strengths, the ability to create for himself.
The other obvious candidate is Parker, but Pirate fans saw last season he is better suited at the 2G, despite his diminutive size.
In short replacing Clark is going to be difficult, at least on paper. The team has a lot of question marks, but a lot of potential as well.
Until they take the court in the fall we really won't know how good they are.
They strongly believe this year's roster is superior to last season's. But last years team had excellent locker room chemistry and they followed the game plan well. in short, yes the sum of their parts was greater than the whole.
But now one key, the main one is going to be who runs the offense. There is no natural PG on the team and if you have say Del play the point you are taking away one of his strengths, the ability to create for himself.
The other obvious candidate is Parker, but Pirate fans saw last season he is better suited at the 2G, despite his diminutive size.
In short replacing Clark is going to be difficult, at least on paper. The team has a lot of question marks, but a lot of potential as well.
Until they take the court in the fall we really won't know how good they are.
I think Roddie Anderson is an underrated pick up and will see a good amount of time at the 1.
I agree with this possibility. I think he’s a very capable BE backcourt player with some versatility and can do a bit of everything.
Interesting and thanks for sharing. I've been thinking Jones was the natural answer to that lead/PG question and to fill Clark's shoes, with Parker as the backup who could emerge because he filled that role last year and, importantly, has already played a year under Sha and is used to "his ways".
Having watched Wilcher a good amount in the Big East his first 2 years, and even some last year at Texas when they were on TV and during that tournament, I do not think he is a PG/lead guard. At all.
I forgot about him. I think you are right in that he could be at least a part-time option there too. Maybe I'm mistaken, but from what I watched of Xavier last season I believe he had lead guard responsibilities at times.
Xavier and his prior school listed him as a poont guard in signings and I bekieve he has a decent assist to turnover ratio for his career.
Agreed. Besides, from an entertainment standpoint I'd much prefer to watch a team that can create at least some excitement on the offensive side. That's what I really liked about Budd. He was an exciting offensive player that also played good D.
It will be interesting to see how things work without Clark. There were a lot of posters concerned about Bud Clark's high usage rate at Merrimack - 35.9. Folks saw him as a lead guard who needed to have the ball in his hands and he was Merrimacks high scorer.
Sha took him and turned him into more of a PG (SHU usage rate was 25.6 approx) and his scoring went down a little and his assists went up. He was not great at finishing at the rim but made up for it with his spot up shooting.
Del Jones also had a high usage rate at Radford and averaged 17.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 3.0 turnovers in 31.7 minutes per game. He's 6-3 and is a good defender and a more explosive athlete. There is a lot to work with and he can attack the rim with a lot more explosion and gets to the FT line. He had really good performances against high D1 teams. He's different than Bud but has the potential to better on both sides of the ball. Hopefully Sha can coach him up - the opportunity is there for him. While I would prefer continuity, I am looking forward to seeing how all this transpires.
Sha took him and turned him into more of a PG (SHU usage rate was 25.6 approx) and his scoring went down a little and his assists went up. He was not great at finishing at the rim but made up for it with his spot up shooting.
Del Jones also had a high usage rate at Radford and averaged 17.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 3.0 turnovers in 31.7 minutes per game. He's 6-3 and is a good defender and a more explosive athlete. There is a lot to work with and he can attack the rim with a lot more explosion and gets to the FT line. He had really good performances against high D1 teams. He's different than Bud but has the potential to better on both sides of the ball. Hopefully Sha can coach him up - the opportunity is there for him. While I would prefer continuity, I am looking forward to seeing how all this transpires.
Parker scares me as a PG. unless he makes big strides that’s a problem if he has to play extended PG minutes.
I think the PG minutes will be distributed in this order - Del Jones starting, with Anderson and Parker being the candidates to back him up. We could also move to more of having two lead guards in play at all times. Should be interesting.
I strongly dislike creative 2Gs playing the point. It diminishes their strengths. Same thing happened with Carrington in his final season. Until Desi went down and Carrington said the hell with running the offense as a PG and just played to his strength for those few games and he played like we all expected him to play that season. Prior to that he had his worst season at the Hall.
Now, sometimes you don't have an option, but I really hope Del isn't asked to play like Clark last year or Carrington in his senior year.
Now, sometimes you don't have an option, but I really hope Del isn't asked to play like Clark last year or Carrington in his senior year.
I never agreed Khadeen suffered from moving to pg. Ppg and shooting percentages were very similar jr and sr yrs, and it is easy to think the increased scoring by Powell and Desi made up for his 1.5 ppg decrease. His assts went up by 1.5 a game to a 4.6 p/game (not great but for reference - IW sr yr, 5.1, Budd last yr, 4.9). I always thought the locker room issues were the bulk of the problem with that team and KC caught some stray bullets. Not saying he might not have been more valuable with a talented pg, but that meant sitting Myles, and he averaged 15 ppg.
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That's the problem. There were no other good options. So because we didn't have another player on the team to run the offense the task fell to him.
Only once Desi went down did Carrington greatly enhance his stats. Trust me when I say this, he did not want to play the point but sacrificed his game for the good of the team.
Only once Desi went down did Carrington greatly enhance his stats. Trust me when I say this, he did not want to play the point but sacrificed his game for the good of the team.
Dont sleep on wilcher. He always seemed to be looking over his shoulder at st johns and Texas. He could be the x factor provided hes given the confidence..
I like Wilcher, but he had about as perfect of an opportunity to succeed in his sophomore year at SJU when you consider what was around him on that team and the wide open path to playing time (as it is, he got 25 minutes on a team that was a 2 seed and dominated the league). Last year at Texas he had plenty of opportunities as well -- at least it seemed so -- but they had too many good guards that performed better.
Again I like him, but I don't think it is a confidence thing. If it comes together this year, it's because sometimes older players that have been around the block excel as a seniors, which is why seniors have always been a valued commodity in college basketball. But even if he's closer to the player he's been I think he adds value and I'd be shocked if he wasn't a high level defender because of who he's had to play for the past 3 years.