TJ Walker...great tweet!!
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Then there is two because there is one between Paducah and Kentucky lake
Just goes to show that one and done is a stupid thing to do if winning titles is your goal.
Coach K couldn’t do it and he's 5 times the game coach Cal is.
But I'll give Cal credit, he used to manage egos better than anyone else, but even that has faded the last several years.
Still doesn't take away from the actual topic, which is Cal having had far more talent than all other UK coaches combined, and doing less with it.
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Really?
Here was the projected field
My point being that the author...your Mr. Walker...chose "Possum Trot". Where there is most likely no blacks, hispanics or asians, because he knew the population is most likely all white. Ergo, small rural community = all white = uneducated hillbilly.
He could have chosen a community like Clifton Heights (25% black population BTW) and referenced a guy named Jerome. But, doing so would run the risk of being seen as associating a minority with a lack of education. And that is strictly off-limits. Whereas, condescending or demeaning language toward rural Kentuckians is seen as perfectly acceptable. It's called a double-standard.
Missing the tournament twice in 12 years is unfathomably bad and that'll always be a huge stain on Cal's resume.
I never knew you had a show. I have no idea who you are or want to be, but you took the wrong turn at the fork in the road, up in the holler. Now, make fun of me. You screwed up, eat it and move on. And take your elite attitude with you.
I k ow why you thought that was a great tweet. You have an elitist attitude, just like Cal and TJ. Birds of a feather.
My God...Kentucky is only KENTUCKY again because of Calipari. We were a dumpster fire and couldn't attract any top level coaches to save our lives after Tubby and Gillispie. Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985 Kentucky has made the Final Four 8 times and Calipari is responsible for four of those! 4 Final Fours in the 25 years prior to Cal is an average of 1 every 6.25 years. Cal has made 4 Final Fours in 10 years, so that's an average of 1 every 2.5 years. Shut up and quit overreacting you bunch of babies.
you’re right. Cal was responsible for building UK, never mind 5 stars Deandre Liggins and Patrick Patterson. Once our lord and savior leaves we should just shut the program down and bulldoze rupp down.
#AllHailCal
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cool stats that mean 0. Cal hasn’t made one since april 2015. He’s no longer getting the elite of the elite anymore.
No, I'm a redneck myself. I thought it was a great tweet because our fanbase can be delusional.
It's impossible to reason with some but you're correct.
Well don’t you think that is exactly why this fan base is the envy of all other schools? None of them have near the number of crazy fans we have. It’s what separates us from all others.
But he does have 2 Elite Eights in that span which means we were right there. Its not like weve missed the tournament and been first weekend knockouts every year...the "this is Kentucky" comment doesn't work anymore and hasn't worked since 1998. This isn't your illusion of Rupp and Kentucky being the only player on this side of the Mississippi back in the 1940's and 1950's lol. Five seasons without a Final Four when we've only had 8 in 35 years and 4 in 25 years prior to Cal...again just sit back and let the realistic fans chat.
Rupp made 1 final four in his last 15 years coaching.
Joe B made 3 final fours in his entire coaching career at UK
Pitino left when he was King of Kentucky
Tubby is Tubby
Gillispie is still eating peanut butter crackers
You have no clue what you're talking about.
AGAIN, nobody is arguing or expecting a repeat of that run from 09-15. The point im trying to illustrate Cal has dropped off since 15’
23-23 vs ap top 25 programs (was 41-14 in 2015)
Last 6 years are identical to tubbys last
1-4 against P5 teams in the NCAA tourney (the lone win being against UCLA in 2017)
worst season in kentucky basketball history
Lets just come clean, no matter how many stats I throw at you or how ever many facts you’ll ignore them. To cal fans he built the program, some of you guys would have fit in well with the IU fans still defending knight in the late 90s.
2010-15
190-38 for 83.3%
#1 seeds: 3
NCAAT: 21-4 for 84%
Elite 8: 5
Final 4: 4
Title games: 2
Titles: 1
Vs AP Top 25: 41-14 for 74.5%
vs Top Rivals: 38-11 for 77.6%
2016-21:
149-59 for 71%
#1 seeds: 0
NCAAT: 9-4 for 69.2%
Elite 8: 2
Final 4: 0
Vs AP top 25: 23-23 for 50%
vs Top Rivals: 23-25
73% winning to 83% before 2016
23-23 Vs AP ranked teams to 41-14 before 2016
Losing records versus top rivals, KU, Tennessee, UCLA, etc
1-4 versus Power 5 programs in the NCAAT since 2016
Resume A (5 seasons)
131-40 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles
9-5 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles
Resume B (5 seasons)
149-59 record
2 Elite Eights
2 Outright SEC Titles (3 Overall)
9-4 NCAA Tournament Record
2 SEC Tournament Titles
Resume A: Tubby Smith’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky
Resume B: John Calipari’s Last 5 Years at Kentucky
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
The guy mentioned nothing about race you weirdo. And Clifton Heights is just a neighborhood on a cliff near downtown Louisville. And it’s totally cool that black people live there. I guess that’s weird to you? Why is that weird to you?
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I disagree. I don’t care if the team we’re playing is a power 5 team or not. It’s about seed and it’s about talent. This isn’t football—plenty of great teams are found outside the power 5.
We’ve lost to a non power 5 team in the final four and in the national championship since Cal has been here. Houston 2 years ago was a fantastic team. Wichita State was undefeated—does that win magically mean less? What about Louisville? They weren’t Power 5.
And cmon man, you’re normally a good poster. We can have an adult conversation without you making some pass at my agenda or my intelligence.
I’ve always said this year has been a disaster. I readily admit Cal has lost a few in the tournament the last few years he had no business losing (Auburn, K State, for example). But no offense to those teams, there have been plenty of non power5 teams I would have rather have avoided than those two over the last few years.
The stat itself is nonsensical. The majority of the teams in the tournament are power 5. It’s natural the losses would come to them.
it should have been clear I wasn’t referring to **** state when I made my post, but maybe it wasn’t, I don’t really care either. It’s an extremely inherent cherry picked stat in nature. Why people get worked up about it is beyond me.
I get upset anytime UK loses in the tournament. Unless there’s an egregious difference in seed I can honestly say the conference affiliation of the team we win or lose against means zero to me. Not sure why it matters unless their our rival or some other fact is present.
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Crazy as in massive support through thick & thin is great! Crazy as in illogical & emotionally blinded is neither good for the program, coaches, players, or recruiting. There is a big difference in good crazy & crazy crazy. And I'm afraid it's the crazy crazy side of BBN that is toxic.
Watch me catch some cred from the mainstream! I’ll call Kentucky fans inbred hillbillies and the mainstream will love me! Hey Twitter! Look at my post!!!
We'll have to agree to disagree. Athletes, talent, size and coaching, at Power 5 schools is at a much higher level than at places like Buffalo and Wofford.
Now, there are exceptions. Wichita State 2014 and Gonzaga, are outliers, but Houston 2019, Wofford 2019, Davidson 2018, Buffalo 2018, Stony Brook 2016, WSU 2017, NKU 2017 and Abilene Christian 2019, are nowhere near the power 5 level.
WSU 2017 and Houston 2019 are close, they were good teams, but the proof is in the pudding. We beat those teams, but lost to Indiana, lost to K-state (without their best player), lost to UNC and lost to Auburn without their best player.
We beat UCLA in 2017, who had a freshman pg as well. The proof is right there.
My apologies for my comment in my last response to you. I was out of line.
Off topic but I think the WPSD-TV transmitter is in Possum Trot. There may be many Possum Trots, but that is the one I know, near Paducah!
Grace To You doesn't live all that far from Possum Trot either, Lol!
The WPSD transmitter used to be in Monkeys eyebrow. But I’ve been in Florida the past few years
Is your memory really that bad? Please list the multitude of coaches who turned us down. As for the final fours, that's nice but we aren't UT. We don't chase final fours. Cals system doesn't work, it never has. It is nice that you're satisfied with wins and final fours though, good for you.
The Big East would probably be considered a Power 6 conference now, but there were a ton of questions about the strength of the conference during and after conference realignment. The teams that remained or had nowhere else to go were seen as a big opportunity loss for them at the time.
Honestly, without Villanova, I’d argue that their status as a power 6 in basketball is not quite as tenable as the others. I’m not gonna go so far as to say they are a lesser conference, but if you look at it without a black and white lens there’s something just different about their status.
You make great, and valid points. I honestly cannot rebut some of the points in good-faith.
I think, for me at least, it just boils down to the nature of some of the teams we’ve squeaked by. In some ways I’d rather face an athletic team from a Power Conference because you’re matching strength with strength. It’s the more skill focused teams such as Wichita and Houston that kept me up at night.
Of course we’re seeing a shift now from teams with overwhelming athleticism over to skill that Cal has GOT to adjust to. But I digress.
Honestly no worries. I enjoy reading your posts. You always bring thoughtful opinions or arguments. We’re all UK fans through and through!
Forget about FF. I just wish we were actually in the tournament this year.
We settled for Billy Gillispie....end of discussion on our list of coaches lining up to take the job after Tubby.
Yeah we are all about those championships every single year right? I mean 7 titles in the 73 years since our first one in 1948 is really setting the world on fire...or is it? I mean that's an average of 1 every 10 years, but hearing people like you talk we are used to winning one every 2-3, right? Wins and Final Fours are what made Kentucky the cream of the crop in the 90's and 2010's...anyone who says its championship or bust really just isn't that smart. Cal's system has gotten more wins, wins in March and more final four appearances than pretty much anyone else in college basketball since he arrived at UK...yeah that means his system hasn't worked lol. You probably need to just quit posting while you may have a tid bit of believability left.
Actually, that Wofford team scared the crap out of me. They’re name sounds bad, they're a mid major, but they had uber elite shooters. If they had a good penetrating guard or another talented post player, we probably don't win that game. I couldn't believe how good those guys were from deep.
We also didn't score on offense as easily as we should have.
I really hope Cal upgrades the offense.