Timing for bear sanctions...

thekimmer

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I remember when we were in NCAA purgatory and it was said that once you get the sanctions you can then move on because there is no more unknown. You know what is ahead of you and rivals can't spin up extreme predictions about your program. Like right now I expect every school competing with the bears for a recruit has them getting the death penalty and then some.

But then I have heard some say the bear side is hoping the sanctions won't come down until after NSD.

So what would be the slightly less awful of two sucky scenarios for the bears? ROI and sanctions before or after signing day?
 

tatedog

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If Yoknapatawpha Hugh sees his shadow I predict 6 more weeks of investigation.
 

dickiedawg

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Definitely after. They're masters of spin and have no problem lying to recruits about what's coming. But if the NCAA drops the hammer there's no way to spin that.

That said, I don't think there's any chance of anything coming down before signing day.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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i don't think there is any chance that the public knows about their sanctions before National Signing. The timetable for their hearing with the Committee on Infractions is probably after Signing Day and then it will probably be at least 30 days before sanctions are announced. We could be looking at late spring/early summer before the sanctions are known. I think the longer that the sanctions are unknown the better for everyone outside of Oxford.
 
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I would actually like the Sanctions to happen / announced in late March or early April. That way Ole Miss will have already told their lies to recruits and have gotten them to sign in February. So an April announcement will expose the lies to the newly signed recruits.

Then the NCAA will allow current / recently signed players to Transfer to another College WITHOUT having to sit out a year. So this will give the lied to / recently signed players approximately 4 months---April, May, June, July---to find a new College before Fall Camps start up in August.
 

PonderThis1

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I don't see any reason why it would be better for it to come out post NSD. Wouldn't we want them to have the worst class possible in 2017?
 

patdog

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Then the NCAA will allow current / recently signed players to Transfer to another College WITHOUT having to sit out a year.
Pretty sure this is wrong. They'll allow any players on the roster who have no chance at ever going to a bowl again to transfer without sitting out. But for the signees, it's sign at your own risk. If the school you signed with goes on probation, tough luck.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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I don't see any reason why it would be better for it to come out post NSD. Would

Look at their current commit list. The rumors of the NCAA sanctions are killing this class. The negative impact to recruiting from a NCAA Investigation in my opinion is like to the ole investing advice "Buy on the rumor, sale on the news".
 

Drebin

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I don't see any reason why it would be better for it to come out post NSD. Wouldn't we want them to have the worst class possible in 2017?



It's already impacting their recruiting for 2017. The only kids signing with them this year are legacy kids and kids for sale who always end up hurting them in the locker room. Their recruiting class is going to suck - worse than anything Croom gave us. I hope their sanctions aren't announced until after signing day 2018.**
 

StatesboroBlues

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UM will have up to 90 days to reply when they receive the NOA...from this point they will meet with the COI which meets 6 times a year. The COI has 8-12 weeks to hand down penalties.

So longest time from amended NOA to penalties...8 months. UM got an extension last time...question will be if they take the maximum time.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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That's understandable. Memphis has a better program than them. Let me know when USM is ranked higher and I will start getting a chub
 
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The NCAA Committee on Infractions doesn't meet again this year so the earliest Ole Miss gets the hammer is April. Steve Robertson's book which will unveil the legs of the network I hope will be published before National Signing a Day.
 

DudyDog

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Word I'm hearing is they want it to go into the beginning of next season so if transfers are allowed it will be too late for any transfers to happen before next season. They know this years class will be bad, but they don't want the current freshmen class enrolled to be able to transfer. They are hoping it hits after the start of next season so that class will not have time to leave, yet penalties will be known before the 2018 class is signed.

You never know for sure, but this was something I heard from some family Reb's over Thanksgiving.

My contention was that they could still transfer at any time, especially if they hadn't started the season and played any yet. So I'm thinking if a kid wants to transfer, he could transfer on Aug. 31 if he wants as long as he hasn't played in a game yet and let that year be his year to sit out. So, if any of what I said was correct, I'd prefer they know before the season starts next year so if transfers are allowed, they'd take place, plus any sanctions involving loss of scholly's will take affect for the 2018 class. That way they have a terrible class in 2017 and only be able to sign a certain number for 2018 and going forward. Let the penalties begin!
 
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