Want that the excuse last year too? Pracice warriors start. Players play better in games
Time To Move On from Bolin.....
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alot were counting on next season being 6, 7 or maybe even 8 wins given how the soft schedule breaks out early. I am not sure that 4 wins next year will be able to keep recruiting from flooding under
Can we reserve judgment on Lewis until he at least starts a few games. He did not even get an entire series today.
I agree that if you don't open the season at 3-1 then we're looking to run Ash out of town - or leave him in Kansas. But I don't think you just assume an Illinois win, I think that's a toss. So at that point, best case, you're 4-1. Win one of NW or MD gets you to 5. I don't see us beating anyone else.
Our obstacle is as it was from the moment we joined this conference. We have to play Ohio State, Michigan, PSU and Michigan State every year. Other than the rare occasion when one of them may be having an historically catastrophic season (Michigan '14), we've got four losses built into the schedule, for the foreseeable future.
Last year Gio runs one play against Howard and bowls over three guys on a 40 yard td run, and then sits on the bench for 5 games. Finally he gets in and looks better than what we had. This year he gets in against Morgan St, runs one play for 15 yards and shrugs off a cheap shot that gets another 15. His two series lead to two touchdowns - weak opponent yes but they had to account for him running which helped our rb's. Bolin was a good addition but it looks like the ship has sailed. He threw some bad balls and threw some away that may have been better off making a run. Gio and Lewis going forward, running and passing. Make it harder on defenses and prep them for next year. I'm afraid Ash may be partial to his recruits.
if ash starts Gio, Lewis is out of here. There is no percentage in starting Gio at this point.
Wtf do you mean. Where he gonna go New Hampshire? He's gonna transfer and sit a year because he's scared of Gio?
Ya have to wonder.....
Disagree. Lewis is a not-ready-for-primetime player. Gio has already started against Big Ten teams.
Last year Gio was behind 3 other QBs and ended up starting the second half of the season. Given that alone, I don't see where it is an absolute that Ash won't start Gio. The bigger issue is should Gio start over the other two. I say yes. He gives you mobility and a rushing threat that Bolin doesn't have. Lewis isn't ready to be a starter yet.
Ya think?
I think that may have played into Bolin getting the job out of camp. If Gio is any good then it's possible Lewis doesn't play till 2019.
I'm not saying anything about Lewis's long term prospects, but him playing all of one play today says a lot about how ready he is, or better put, how not ready he is.
This idea that Lewis can't do it is based on what? He played what three plays a game (not including Morgan State), was not given a play to throw the ball, and otherwise hasn't done anything terrible. I do not understand why people are writing him off based on so little playing time as a true freshman.
We lose so much talent this year too that I think we'll struggle to get 4 wins next year. Say 1-2 wins this year and 3-4 wins next year. Is that enough to keep Ash around?
Start Gio against Ohio st. There's a bye week and then turn the place over to Lewis. What the hell do we have to lose at this point?
Gio is our best qb. Too many people buying into an unproven frosh due to recruiting
Gio is the best option we have right now
Gio is the best option we have right now
You're basing this off what? Why can't he be Cardale Jones? They are the same size and Cardale wasn't an elusive runner? Lewis is every bit as fast as Tim Tebow was. He hasn't played any meaningful snaps. Maybe he's DC Jefferson but who knows. All I know is he can't be worse than Colin
Not a chance in hell of that, but it does look more and more like Lewis was promised the job next year, and there is a fear of Gio going in, doing well, and screwing up the plan.
Martin is better than Edwards, Gio is better than Bolin, and Ross Douglas is nothing to write home about. Where am I going with this?
Just changing the QB is far from the answer to all RU problems
1. Skill position WR's: lack of talent and Depth.
2. Linebackers: lack of talent and depth.
3.Defensive end/D tackle lack: of B10 talent and depth.
4. O line ..average at best B10 level.
5. Special teams..lack of athletes due to shallow recruiting talent and depth depth.
Changing the QB isnt going to make up for all these short commings.
1. Skill position WR's: lack of talent and Depth.
2. Linebackers: lack of talent and depth.
3.Defensive end/D tackle lack: of B10 talent and depth.
4. O line ..average at best B10 level.
5. Special teams..lack of athletes due to shallow recruiting talent and depth depth.
Changing the QB isnt going to make up for all these short commings.
We really don't know what Lewis can do. If we're being honest, Gio could've scored 5 touchdowns against Morgan State if you put him in on the 10 yards line too. 100%. That game meant nothing.
Why not give it a shot. Passing for 150 yards 0 TDs and 2 interceptions isn't going to win us anything. So why not just try something new. I'd rather they just put Duwop at QB then sit through Bolin again.
Gio gets the start against Illinois after starting Bolin and getting pounded by the Buckeyes. Brings a stronger arm and more mobility. Please bring Lewis along slowly.
Agree - it really looks like Ash & Kill have placed a high priority on having an "administrator" line up behind center (even if he has gross shortcomings under pressure) - somebody who they feel will steadfastly try to execute the plays as called - methodically try to go through the progressions - and even if the results are lackluster - will follow the plan and only go 'off script' a minimal amount of times. It seems like they are figuring that if the QB can roboticly execute (even if done with a dull plodding nature) the called plays - that will enable the rest of the offense to develop/evolve into a synchronized squad.
Kind of get the feeling that Ash & Kill could have Johnny Football himself sitting on the bench - and he would never see the game - because a season of his helter skelter wildly improvisational quarterbacking would contribute little to their plan for long term evolution of the offensive squad - it might be exciting to watch - but they probably think an offense learns & develops little from an endless series of frantic fire drill plays - they want to push for consistency, reproduce-ability so they have a 'system' .... plus with the current RU talent level - a lot of players would get hurt when inevitable frequent mistakes were made.
Gio def would have ran all over Morgan State. A completely worn out Morgan State. It's not a coincidence both Lewis and Blackshear had monster 2nd halfs.
Bolin was under alot of pressure from a line that couldnt block,pick up blitzes ,combined with WRs that cant get open or catch balls.
Changing the QB wont fix that at all.
I'm hearing the WR's can't get open, yet they seem to be waiting in space for the ball to get to them just before getting jacked up by the DB.
And yes a running QB does change the pass rush dynamic.
Yet all 3 are starting. Hmmmmmmmmm........ Do those 3 have anything in common?
Bolin is not a runner, period. Wouldn't it be better to have someone back there with that ability when a play breaks down?
I think this played into Bailey's drop. He has to catch that ball but he knows it was not zipped to him and is bracing for impact. We have seen a lot of receivers hung out to dry this year.