Allen has never meet a shot he does not like. Dude is the definition of "Gun". The Florida team I have watched several times, only chance they have to beat you is to make it rain 3's. If the 3 ball is off, they will get smoked, but we all know how that will go down in Gainesville. Allen will look like Kobe. Funny thing, my 24 year old is a huge Florida fan. I texted him last night and asked him if he was coming over Saturday to watch the game. All he replied was "LOL". "NO."
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Yeah if our 4 headed monster inside doesn't just destroy UF I will be shocked. Also Hagans can feast on the talented but mistake prone guards.
Florida is a very different team with all of these front court injuries. In the same fashion that Kentucky is better than 3-losses now that we have Hagans.. Florida is probably the opposite: they would have more than 8 losses with these injuries.
I posted in another thread, over the last 5 games, Florida was at liker 27 rebounds/game, which puts them dead last when comparing to the rest of D1's averages.
Florida is going to have to make most of their shots to negate rebounding, otherwise I think they get run out of the gym.
I posted in another thread, over the last 5 games, Florida was at liker 27 rebounds/game, which puts them dead last when comparing to the rest of D1's averages.
Florida is going to have to make most of their shots to negate rebounding, otherwise I think they get run out of the gym.
How did you let that happen ? [winking] I recently had one of those serious talks you have with your kids after she told me something of a personal nature and I literally said "there is nothing you can tell me that will make me love you or be proud of you less ...unless you are telling me you are becoming a UF fan." Living in Jax for 30 years has made me hate UF unlike any team. Respect FSU , love the Canes but hate UF.
Nobody is saying they are garbage.
What we are saying, however, is that when it comes to THIS particular game, the matchups all over the court are not even close to favoring Florida. They don't match up well in the backcourt, we are longer, more athletic and we defend better.
Shall I even discuss how bad we will destroy them in the paint or can you take it from here?
Problem is, they are shooting too many bricks to be successful with the style of game that they are trying to play.
Kavaughn Allen is good when he's on, but if you ask anyone that has played UK recently, they will tell you that the days of getting good open looks against UK were left behind in December-ish.
Teams like UT and UK shouldn't be struggling with teams like Florida. They have nothing inside that can defend your bigs and they have nothing on the inside that can score on teams like UK and UT.
Florida had it good with Egbunu, Finney-Smith, Young, Yeguete, Macklin, and Tyus. They were all very good garbage men inside, covering up some of the deficiencies of their typical shooting-happy guards. They haven't had that since.
No pull out, just like with Vandy.
@IL Wildcat
Not sure if this has been answered or not, but they lost their backup big Keith Stone for the season. Not a huge scorer but a big body that comes in and plays solid D and grabs rebounds.
They are essentially down to just Hayes (who could give Reid fits with his athleticism, and He can match his physicality) and their freshman forward (can’t recall his name). If memory serves me correct, he’s more of a tweener / faceup guy that PJ should have no problem containing.
Florida has some high volume perimeter shooters but they don’t shoot at a high percentage. They will go from something like 2-9 to 5-19 from game to game. They hit a lot, but miss a lot too.
Should be good opportunities for transition offense in this one.
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Yep, if they aren't shooting well, you guys will slay them. May beat them even if they do shoot well. But, I was impressed with how much pressure they put on our guards when we played them.
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Allen is capable of going off. That's one concern.
If Cats shoot reasonably well from the arc and don't get caught up in a three-point contest they should win. But it's not going to be anything like Vandy.
If Cats shoot reasonably well from the arc and don't get caught up in a three-point contest they should win. But it's not going to be anything like Vandy.
You said it, I just gave a second to the motion.
In addition, I am disinclined to let a UT fan define what constitutes class vs. uncouth given the historic trend of the UT athletic program.
Let me translate that for you Perry Mason: We dont care about the opinion of a program who has our sense of entitlement and Vandy’s trophy case who has consistently been the premier thuggish program in SEC basketball.
M’kay?
I've never heard Keith Stone referred to as Diamond. But he is the guy that tore his ACL last week.
They use Keyontae Johsnon as the 4, but he's undersized just like Garrett for Kansas, although he is thicker.
I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. Although you're an impressive message board warrior, I didn't come on your board to engage in this ********. I simply like basketball and enjoy discussing it. We appear to have the best two teams in the conference. I haven't nor won't talk any **** on here, so have at it if you must, but I'm done with you.
I had him and the Maryland "I think" guy mixed up, my apologies.
Johnson, that's his name. Gonna be a good player but he's an undersized G/F. I think he's built more like a tweener 3/4 rather than a guard like Marcus Garrett. But you are right they are used in a similar fashion.
Interesting stat on Florida: They rank 2nd in the SEC in 3-pointers made, but 7th in percentage. They jack up a ton of 3's.
Well, you know what they say... “cant take the heat” and all that...
You’re our main rival for the SEC this year, cant throw bows down low with the big boys?...bye snowflake.
Judging by your profile...you’re a creeping troll. So...yeah.
We'll see. I feel very confident that UK's guards will easily handle what Florida throws at them.
Auburn's guards are far better and UK had them down by 17 in their house at one point.
Florida doesn’t bring anything to the table that UK hasn't dealt with already.
@502 Wildcat What 502 said.. Florida is battling some severe injuries to the front court. Just not sure they have enough talent there, to stop Kentucky from scoring down low and to secure rebounds.
Our guards are already great defenders, going to make it very difficult to get good looks.
IDK, I know I shouldn't say this, but I just don't see how Florida wins this game.
Our guards are already great defenders, going to make it very difficult to get good looks.
IDK, I know I shouldn't say this, but I just don't see how Florida wins this game.
Thanks 502Wildcat. Stone was a big body for them. I looked him up and he's listed 6-8 And 250lbs. So, that's a significant loss with the our Cats bringing such a formidable front line to town.
Still, as you say, this game will likely be won or lost based on what happens with Florida's perimeter shooting and UK's perimeter defense. From what I've seen of Florida, if you make them put the ball on the floor, they become very pedestrian.
If is the key word. We seem to have turned the corner. Hopefully full steam ahead is our destiny!
You opened yourself up at the beginning of your post.
Fish take bait. Nothing personal to you or OP.
If the team that just dismantled Vandy shows up Saturday, Florida will get crushed! If this team plays like they did last night, there is no one in this conference who will beat them at home or on the road! This team seems to like the road more than other Cal teams!
I was always read other team's boards before we played them.
Absolutely nothing on the UK game (or the Ole Miss game tonight, for that matter) on either site that I saw (I checked a couple of hours ago).
But there were some general comments about the team, and most believe that have good shooters that can't attack the rim or create their own shots.
We should be able to shut that sh*t down, Negan style, provided they don't hit shots while falling into the front row.
Absolutely nothing on the UK game (or the Ole Miss game tonight, for that matter) on either site that I saw (I checked a couple of hours ago).
But there were some general comments about the team, and most believe that have good shooters that can't attack the rim or create their own shots.
We should be able to shut that sh*t down, Negan style, provided they don't hit shots while falling into the front row.
Keep Kevaughn Allen from going off and UK wins.
Hudson has been terrible. Locke is a streaky shooter. Lost Stone a week or two ago hurts their depth.
Hudson has been terrible. Locke is a streaky shooter. Lost Stone a week or two ago hurts their depth.
Nice post.....actual facts..rather than hyperbole and unfounded opinion. That is a tough tough place to play, and a hot team hitting a high percentage of 3s, can beat many many teams.
Hayes, is from our little Florida town....he was very very promising in high school, I saw him numerous times....he just hasn't progressed much at all. He probably won't have much of an effect on Travis...he is not physical.
Florida is good defensively, won 3 of 4 lost at TCU and won against their last 3 SEC opponents. They have been suffering from the injury bug.
We play our game and protect the 3 pt line we win. Reid, PJ, Nick and EJ may have a field day due to no post presence.
I think our boys won't take anyone for granted ever again, (thanks pUKe,SH,Ala)
That said, we always and I mean always get their best shot.
If their 3's are falling better lash em up and get ready for a fight. Our luck Hudson plays like he did last yr..
Not too worried, but on the road in the SEC, never take anything for granted.
UK wins 89 -60
We shellack em'
Go Big Blue!
Go Cats!
Go BBN!!!
We play our game and protect the 3 pt line we win. Reid, PJ, Nick and EJ may have a field day due to no post presence.
I think our boys won't take anyone for granted ever again, (thanks pUKe,SH,Ala)
That said, we always and I mean always get their best shot.
If their 3's are falling better lash em up and get ready for a fight. Our luck Hudson plays like he did last yr..
Not too worried, but on the road in the SEC, never take anything for granted.
UK wins 89 -60
We shellack em'
Go Big Blue!
Go Cats!
Go BBN!!!
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I’ve been insulted a hell of a lot worse than that for being a lawyer.
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Gators are going to shoot an obscene number of 3s I’m afraid. So Cats have to D up and not give open looks. Play with the same energy as the other night and bring home the win!!!
I continue to hear how good of team Florida is on Defense but if you look at Kentucky over our last 6 Wins we have only given up 57 points a game and the one game at Auburn we gave up 80. That is when Auburn got hot on shooting 3's after we were leading by 15 points with 9 minutes to play 64-49 and Auburn hot got hot and Six 3's to get back in the game. The 4 SEC Games in Gainesville, UF lost to South Carolina and UT and was down 13 at half to Texas A&M and if it wasn't for Locke and Allen hitting 15/23 from 3 point Florida would have lost that game. Then Ole Miss blew the game on Wednesday night letting the game go to Overtime. Ole Miss was leading by 3 points with 8 seconds to go in the game. This is where Head Coach Kermit Davis really blew the game. I would had UF bring it up and soon as they hit half-court I would have fouled Florida with 4 or 5 seconds left and had UF go to the line. Then get the rebound and go down and get fouled and go back up by 3 points with about 3 seconds to go and then Foul UF one more time at Half-court to win the game. I would have never let Florida come down and pass it to Allen for a 3 with 3 seconds to go in the game to tie the game. Big mistake by Head Coach Kermit Davis not fouling UF. Florida could have been 0-4 at home in Gainesville if it wasn't for Allen and Locke and also having Head Coach Kermit Davis allow Allen to hit a 3 with 3 seconds to go to take it to Overtime and UF pulled it out in Overtime.
The size of Florida to start the game is 6'2 Allen, 6'2 Locke, 6'5 Nembhard, 6'5 Johnson, and 6'8 Hayes. Then at times they bring in 6'5 Hudson for 6'8 Hayes and UF goes with 6'2, 6'2, 6'5, 6'5, and 6'5. I would see Coach Cal pounding inside to PJ and Travis with the smaller lineup and they both have been great if they don't have a shot passing it back out to the Herro, KJ, Quickley, and Baker for outside shots and 3 point shots. We need the PJ that has came out in last 3 games and scored a total of 68 points and averaging 23 ppg. and 12 rpg. in last 3 games in dominating fashion. If we can hit our 3's like at Vanderbilt going 10/17 from 3 and PJ dominating again, and Travis back to dominating we shouldn't win Saturday. It would really help too if Herro can come out knocking down 3's with the team. Kentucky needs to stay focused like in the Vanderbilt game, pound the ball inside, hit our outside shots and 3's, and have the bench contribute like they did at Vanderbilt. If we do these things against Florida we should win this game Saturday afternoon. That would leave us with road games at UT, Miss. State, Ole Miss, and Missouri and six home games.
The size of Florida to start the game is 6'2 Allen, 6'2 Locke, 6'5 Nembhard, 6'5 Johnson, and 6'8 Hayes. Then at times they bring in 6'5 Hudson for 6'8 Hayes and UF goes with 6'2, 6'2, 6'5, 6'5, and 6'5. I would see Coach Cal pounding inside to PJ and Travis with the smaller lineup and they both have been great if they don't have a shot passing it back out to the Herro, KJ, Quickley, and Baker for outside shots and 3 point shots. We need the PJ that has came out in last 3 games and scored a total of 68 points and averaging 23 ppg. and 12 rpg. in last 3 games in dominating fashion. If we can hit our 3's like at Vanderbilt going 10/17 from 3 and PJ dominating again, and Travis back to dominating we shouldn't win Saturday. It would really help too if Herro can come out knocking down 3's with the team. Kentucky needs to stay focused like in the Vanderbilt game, pound the ball inside, hit our outside shots and 3's, and have the bench contribute like they did at Vanderbilt. If we do these things against Florida we should win this game Saturday afternoon. That would leave us with road games at UT, Miss. State, Ole Miss, and Missouri and six home games.