Thomas Grayson

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I think it will help them. Come to tOSU, where football is more important to the university than education, morals, and the law.

And now, if you do something wrong, all you need to say is that you have a medical condition where you have trouble remembering bad things you have done.
But football is not more important that tattoos.
 

oldjar07

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I do. That is why I questioned why Nebraska was taking commitments from guys that they didn’t need to be in a rush to take.
It'll be interesting if true. Could very well be a top 20 class if we replace some of our lower rated 3 stars with a couple 4 stars.
 

oldjar07

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Not sure about the level of competition, but last year Wandale Robinson had 563 yards and 7 TD's in one game and has had 2,000+ yards rushing, along with ~3,000 all purpose yards each of the previous two seasons. It's no wonder Ohio State, Michigan, and Bama want him. So I'm hoping the CB picks for Nebraska are correct.
He's basically a smaller version of Maurice Washington. He has the same out of this world vision and moves Maurice has. This kid is going to be special.
 

oldjar07

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To me it’s the same thing as pulling an offer.

It’s the same as telling a kid he will be 9th string in a group of 5 and he won’t see the field. You hope he leaves on his own and frees up the scholarship. You didn’t technically cut him but everyone on these boards will give the coach credit for getting rid of him. See Will Jackson and all the other guys that were “cut” since January.

The coaches made the decision that they didn’t want Grayson in the class, he took the hint.
There's a huge difference I think in cutting a kid that's already on the team vs cutting a kid's scholarship offer and commitment. If I had the choice, I'd much rather cut a subpar recruit vs the player already on the roster.
 
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There's a huge difference I think in cutting a kid that's already on the team vs cutting a kid's scholarship offer and commitment. If I had the choice, I'd much rather cut a subpar recruit vs the player already on the roster.

I wasn't comparing the two things. Just the perception of the two things. I'll explain it better....

People will say that Frost got rid of or cut Jackson or Roberts, but in reality, he cant cut them, Like I said he can say you are 9th string in a group of 5 players and hope the player takes the hint, but the player has to make the decision to leave.

In recruiting, the player will say they opened up their commitment and have decommitted. Since the coaches cannot comment on the recruit until they sign, there is no way to confirm who pulled the trigger. The conversation was probably more like, we are going to continue to recruit a running back, or there are 5 RB on the roster now and 2 more in your class, you will probably be 7th or 8th string next year. Again the coach hopes the player makes the decision to walk away, rather than tell the recruit they are pulling the offer.

In the case of Grayson, his comments gave the appearance that the coaches told him something to make him change his mind. Rather than him telling the coaches he changed his mind.

I hope that makes sense.
 
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HuskerO58

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Since the coaches cannot comment on the recruit until they sign, there is no way to confirm who pulled the trigger.
I know the coaches can't comment, but can a recruit? I believe they can, but they really don't say anything if they're "being suggested to reconsider their commitment." My point is that you'd think the recruits would be more outspoken if something like that occurred to them.
 

TheBeav815

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All these flavors and he chose salty.

I still think Washington beating the odds to qualify has something to do with how many RBs they're gonna take this year. He was a loooooong long shot at the time this kid committed.

I still really like Greyson's film, but I can see where it's getting crowded in that room.
 
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All these flavors and he chose salty.

I still think Washington beating the odds to qualify has something to do with how many RBs they're gonna take this year. He was a loooooong long shot at the time this kid committed.

I still really like Greyson's film, but I can see where it's getting crowded in that room.
Don't forget a healthy Tre Bryant is now in the mix. Also, that extra year of eligibility he was granted... instead of having a junior that might just need to retire, we have a sophomore that could maybe "do some things" or "have a chance to put himself in a position to be a guy"
 

TheBeav815

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh this kid's film though...

Who took this little dude and turned his BTK rating up to 99? What a nightmare this kid would be at that Duck-R position. The number of times on that video that you go, "Ok, they're gonna get him here..." and then he just back-shoulders three consecutive defenders and gets gone for 60 yards, oh boy.

 

TheBeav815

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Don't forget a healthy Tre Bryant is now in the mix. Also, that extra year of eligibility he was granted... instead of having a junior that might just need to retire, we have a sophomore that could maybe "do some things" or "have a chance to put himself in a position to be a guy"
I love Tre and I hope for all the world that's true. I'll believe that Healthy Tre Byrant exists when I see him playing in October and November.
 
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I know the coaches can't comment, but can a recruit? I believe they can, but they really don't say anything if they're "being suggested to reconsider their commitment." My point is that you'd think the recruits would be more outspoken if something like that occurred to them.

Nah, they don't want to openly show they were turned down by a team. If they were treated badly, maybe. But no one is putting on their Twitter, Nebraska pulled my offer today, they don't think I'm good enough.
 

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I'll just put in my 2 cents. I don't think that we necessarily recruited past Grayson. That may be part of the reason we're parting company now, but if Grayson had been gung-ho solid Huskers from the start I think he'd still have a spot, as an "athlete" if nothing else. He has speed that our staff wants. But he was always kind of a soft commit, and we knew we could eventually lose him if some other schools (like OU) came calling. Since it appears we have other options, I think it was best for both parties for a "soft commit" to become uncommitted.
 

Ewooc

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That's another way to look at it. And I do believe that the recent players leaving were not run off or cut. Bottom line is this staff is asking way more from these kids than Riley ever did. The early morning practices alone could be enough to make a kid decide that they don't want to ride the bench anymore.
This is my theory too. Some kids may have gotten a bit to use to how Riley did things. The way Frost does them is a big of a shock. Most want it bad enough to push and keep going. Some cant handle, the demand of football and school. Plus knowing they could be riding the bench. Would be tough to mentally and physically keep going 110%
 

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I wasn't comparing the two things. Just the perception of the two things. I'll explain it better....

People will say that Frost got rid of or cut Jackson or Roberts, but in reality, he cant cut them, Like I said he can say you are 9th string in a group of 5 players and hope the player takes the hint, but the player has to make the decision to leave.

In recruiting, the player will say they opened up their commitment and have decommitted. Since the coaches cannot comment on the recruit until they sign, there is no way to confirm who pulled the trigger. The conversation was probably more like, we are going to continue to recruit a running back, or there are 5 RB on the roster now and 2 more in your class, you will probably be 7th or 8th string next year. Again the coach hopes the player makes the decision to walk away, rather than tell the recruit they are pulling the offer.

In the case of Grayson, his comments gave the appearance that the coaches told him something to make him change his mind. Rather than him telling the coaches he changed his mind.

I hope that makes sense.

Held: "Thomas, you're a great player, and we think you have an outstanding future playing for another school. Have you thought about exploring other options? We are going to allow you to pursue those options."
 

GretnaShawn

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh this kid's film though...

Who took this little dude and turned his BTK rating up to 99? What a nightmare this kid would be at that Duck-R position. The number of times on that video that you go, "Ok, they're gonna get him here..." and then he just back-shoulders three consecutive defenders and gets gone for 60 yards, oh boy.



I just watched the first 4 or 5 highlights. My word. That dude is incredible.
 

TheBeav815

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I just watched the first 4 or 5 highlights. My word. That dude is incredible.
I'm not one to throw around Barry Sanders comparisons, but the combination of his size, speed, balance and sudden cuts made me think of that. Looks like they should have him dead to rights and instead he turns it into not just a first down but a long TD. He demoralized that one team, had them out there looking for the power button to just turn that game off.
 
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Another site seems to think that we are a long-shot for Robinson, but hopefully we can wow him on the visit.

Am I the only one who was more impressed with Grayson's film than Rahmir Johnson's, and think he'd be a better fit for this offense? I've been one to talk about the importance of recruiting rankings, but based on highlights, I'm not sure how Johnson is a 4-star and Grayson is only a 2-star. Grayson looks faster to me, and Johnson also doesn't have that great of an offer list for a 4-star.
 

z28craz

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Nah, they don't want to openly show they were turned down by a team. If they were treated badly, maybe. But no one is putting on their Twitter, Nebraska pulled my offer today, they don't think I'm good enough.

I’d assume the kid also appreciates the honesty of the coaches. If the coaches did in fact contact him and say something to the effect of, “ we’ll honor your commitment and scholarship and you can come compete for a spot, but here’s the reality you face. The decision is yours.” He probably saw the writing on the wall and decided it would be better to go elsewhere to actually play for four years as opposed to getting buried on the depth chart with little better than a scout team role for the next 4 years. I know if I were a player I would appreciate that assessment from a coach. At least the kid has other opportunities he can pursue prior to the early signing period.
 

oldjar07

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Another site seems to think that we are a long-shot for Robinson, but hopefully we can wow him on the visit.

Am I the only one who was more impressed with Grayson's film than Rahmir Johnson's, and think he'd be a better fit for this offense? I've been one to talk about the importance of recruiting rankings, but based on highlights, I'm not sure how Johnson is a 4-star and Grayson is only a 2-star. Grayson looks faster to me, and Johnson also doesn't have that great of an offer list for a 4-star.
Rahmir is definitely faster, but he doesn't look like he has a polished run game yet. Thomkins is definitely our best recruit at the position we've had so far. He has a different running style than Wandale, but he's the real deal as well.