This video puts a lot about WW2 in shocking perspective

[Tin Cup Cowboy]

https://vimeo.com/128373915

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

One has to wonder

what the world might be like, without all of those millions of people, going to

a premature death.

 

[stateguy]

Read the comments.

 

[Junction John]

Holy **** at the Russian casualties... I had no idea it was that high.

That's a pretty stunning illustration.

 

[57stratdawg]

Russia's stance was basically "if there is 10X more of us and you're killing us 5 to 1 - we still win".

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Yep. Stalin and his meat grinder strategy.

 

[Junction John]

Glad they were on our side... There were no other nations at the time who would have had the stomach (and the population) to go head to head with Germany in that setting.

Clear case of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

 

[121Josey]

Russia's stance was basically "if there is 10X more of us and you're killing us 5 to 1 - we still win".

I was talking with a european veteran (early 40's) recently and he was talking about joint training with the US against Russian tactics. He says that the 19th century wave of masses is still in their playbook.

 

[Dawgzilla]

Overcrowded?**

Okay, that was a joke in poor taste (my favorite kind!). I honestly could not even finish watching the video after they showed the Soviet bodies piling up. Just sickening.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

Stalin was every bit the POS that Hitler was.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Recently, GWB was voted more 'evil' than Stalin or Lenin.

I truly fear the stupidity of the younger generation.

 

[Dawgg]

That movie "Enemy at the Gates" highlighted this philosophy a lot, basically the Soviet soldiers having to choose between Nazi bullets and Soviet bullets. I think the opening scene was the Soviets shooting anybody retreating.

 

[57stratdawg]

Yeah. They also wouldn't let civilians evacuate cities in most cases.

 

[thatsbaseball]

But can you blame them if they have no clue who Stalin and Lenin were? You know, that dumbing down thingy is a ***** to overcome.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Simply liberals winning.

 

[patdog]

To be fair, you have a lot of others comparing Obama or Hillary to Hitler as well. Those on both sides do a disservice to their causes by making such ridiculous statements.

 

[GloryDawg]

I was talking with a european veteran (early 40's) recently and he was talking about joint training with the US against Russian tactics. He says that the 19th century wave of masses is still in their playbook.

It didn't work in Korea and superior military tech will keep it from working now.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

People forget that Stalin and Hitler cooperated at the beginning of the war and divvied up east Europe. Had Hitler not been a total dubmass and invaded the Soviet Union, World War II would have been a whole lot worse for the Allies in western Europe.

 

[rem101]

Lenin was in a band wasn't he?**

 

[drt7891]

Stalin was every bit the conquerer that hitler was. That was a deadly mix... You have to wonder if Hitler was just trying to beat Stalin to the punch.

Both were POS and anyone comparing any American president with those two are absolute dumbasses. That goes for either side of the aisle. Those two guys were as sick and in humane as they come. They gave zero ***** for human life outside their own.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

There won't be many around to count if we have another global war.*

 

[coach66]

Stalin and Hitler both supported gun

Control. Let that sink in.

 

[drt7891]

What does that have to do with anything? Serious question.

I'm more shocked at the fact that they would drag their own "undesirable citizens," no matter their value to society, at the point of a gun to either be slaves for the state or murdered. All while taking land they had no business taking just because they could. Both of those guys did that. Let that sink in.

 

[DerHntr]

What does that have to do with anything? Serious question.

The point is that an unarmed populace can end up dead in massive numbers at the hands of their own government in the wrong situation. They were sitting ducks.

I'm not saying I think our government would ever do something similar. Just explaining the point.

 

[dorndawg]

Stalin and Hitler both breathed air.

Let that sink in.

 

[drt7891]

Ah I misinterpreted his statement. My apologies for the snarky comment. That is far more valid than what I initially thought he was saying.

Normally I see these stupid comparisons in the context of "X politician supports gun control, so did hitler!!1". I've been in Mississippi too long...

 

[coach66]

Correct Deerhntr, as we hear the constant drum for gun control from the left in

our own country we should be mindful that some of the greatest tyrants in the history of mankind used it in some form to gain control of their populace and then commit unheard of atrocities. Our forefathers knew the power of the gun and explicitly protected our freedoms in this area for a reason, they lived it. I wish there were some good answers to addressing the gun/crime issues in our country today but I have to say taking peoples guns away is the last thing any nation should do because it is the ultimate check and balance of a free society.

 

[coach66]

Yep, the Chinese tried it in Korea and were massacred. There were so many dead

frozen Chinese bodies at Chosin that we used the bodies to build bridges in our retreat. My dad fought there and said it was incredibly terrifying to see the massive waves of
Chinese.

 

[SheltonChoked]

To be fair, the U.S. used a meat grinder strategy in WWII also. Daytime bombing runs, lightly armored Sherman tanks, etc. all with the mindset of " your battle machines are 3x better than ours. But we have 20x more. And are building them faster than we can ship them. "

One of the most impressive things about WWII to me is how big and strong the military industrial complex got in the U.S. During the war. One of my history profs at State said that if the war had not ended, the U.S. Was on pace to make more airplanes than we could park, including battle losses. Same for tanks. And with the new declassified info, an nuke every 2 weeks indefinitely. That's crazy.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

+1

 

[DerHntr]

Ah I misinterpreted his statement. My apologies for the snarky comment. That is far more valid than what I initially thought he was saying.

Normally I see these stupid comparisons in the context of "X politician supports gun control, so did hitler!!1". I've been in Mississippi too long...

Agree on the comparisons being ridiculous from both sides. Where I do take issue is the large number of citizens who want all other citizens unarmed. I have a few friends that are nearly at that point but they also claim they would haul butt to my house if something truly crazy started to happen in the U.S. with a war, terrorists, etc. I tell them that luckily they can stay right there in their own neighborhood and wait for the first neighbor to start shooting. You don't have to go far to find someone armed.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I always get

a kick out of gun control nuts mentioning hunting in their arguments...

 

[patdog]

Somewhere there's a middle ground between banning all guns and allowing anyone to own military weapons.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

To be fair, you have a lot of others comparing Obama or Hillary to Hitler as well. Those on both sides do a disservice to their causes by making such ridiculous statements.

When it makes a poll of 7,000 college students let me know. Sure you have loonies on the right and the left that make ridiculous comments. Difference is the loonies on the left actually run the universities and schools and have indoctrinated their students with their mental diarrhea.

 

[aTotal360]

The strict gun control laws in Chicago are working well. **

 

[drt7891]

Dear god....

 

[coach66]

I totally agree but the nuts on the right believe once you open pandora's box

with any type of gun control the nibbling will begin and over time the guns will be gone so they chose to stand strong against any type of control which is contrary to good common sense but based on history I understand their
paranoia.

 

[KurtRambis4]

DC, too**

*

 

[KurtRambis4]

That's the

point. The gun control nuts' ultimate goal is to ban all guns.

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

People forget that Stalin and Hitler cooperated at the beginning of the war and divvied up east Europe. Had Hitler not been a total dubmass and invaded the Soviet Union, World War II would have been a whole lot worse for the Allies in western Europe.

Another bad mistake Hitler made was declaring war on the United States. Guess he thought he had to do so since Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany had a pact with Japan. My understanding is that the Soviet Union was thinking Japan may attack them and they kept a force on their eastern front to defend Russia. After Japan's attack, Russia brought their troops in to attack the Germans at Stalingrad. It appears Japan's attack against the US played an important part in the Soviet Union defeating Germany.